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Re: The existential threat posed by the Abu Hebel and Umu Heblaayo society to Somalinimo.'

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:07 pm
by jalaaludin5
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Re: The existential threat posed by the Abu Hebel and Umu Heblaayo society to Somalinimo.'

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:12 pm
by Cherine
^Khamis was also worn by the pagan Quraysh, Jews & Christians of Arabia. No such thing as "Islamic" attire.

Re: The existential threat posed by the Abu Hebel and Umu Heblaayo society to Somalinimo.'

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:19 pm
by X.Playa
What is Islamic anyway? If names like Khalid, Cali cabdalla , cumar cuthmaan existed before Islam how can they be Islamic . if they dressed in white pyjamas before Islam is that dress Islamic

What's Arab and what is Islamic, its a murky water.

Re: The existential threat posed by the Abu Hebel and Umu Heblaayo society to Somalinimo.'

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:19 pm
by TheFuturist
Jalaaludin either you're paranoid, or your love for Arab clothing is clouding your judgement. Wtf is this 'ujeedada gaar ah'.

And how can you suggest that wearing Arab dress isnt important?! These are the very people that some amongst us seek to behave like. It is what they want: to emulate their behaviour, their way of talking, their dress, to mirror their society whilst turning a bad eye to their flaws. If Khamiiska is as you say a symbol of the Arabian Gulf, it is also a symbol of of oppression of the poor/weak, of extremism, of excessive extravagance, of misogyny and of racism. You are a Somali, why should you wish to emulate another culture/society/people?

I am not nostalic of the past. If anything i'm trying to preserve the little good that we have going for us, I don't want the current GOOD aspects of our culture and our beautiful manner of practising the religion to be submerged under a regime of Gulf-Arabism and Wahabism.

Re: The existential threat posed by the Abu Hebel and Umu Heblaayo society to Somalinimo.'

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:24 pm
by TheFuturist
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Re: The existential threat posed by the Abu Hebel and Umu Heblaayo society to Somalinimo.'

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:27 pm
by TheFuturist
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Re: The existential threat posed by the Abu Hebel and Umu Heblaayo society to Somalinimo.'

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:30 pm
by Cherine
^Those are not Somalis though :lol:

Re: The existential threat posed by the Abu Hebel and Umu Heblaayo society to Somalinimo.'

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:32 pm
by TheFuturist
Cherine wrote:^Those are not Somalis though :lol:
Say cheese :mrgreen: :dead:

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Re: The existential threat posed by the Abu Hebel and Umu Heblaayo society to Somalinimo.'

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:40 pm
by X.Playa
TheFuturist wrote:
Cherine wrote:^Those are not Somalis though :lol:
Say cheese :mrgreen: :dead:

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The man is a certified clown, he also wears Nigerian dashikis.

Re: The existential threat posed by the Abu Hebel and Umu Heblaayo society to Somalinimo.'

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:42 pm
by TheLoFather
Ok guys you won me over, I am now convinced the khamiis is unislaamic and is only for the Arabs as even many non muslim Arabs were the khamiis too. And I think it will be fair to say that suits and ties, trousers, shirts, t-shirt jackets, jeans, trainers/snickers, truck suits, underwear, socks, macawiis and sarongs too are unislaamic as much as the khamiis that is to say they are not traditional Islaamic clothings and definitely are not Somali clothing.
So as Muslim who happens to be born a Somali, I am left with the labada go' being traditionally Somali and Islaamic as the only option and we all know how impractical it is to wear it in this day and age (if you can pull it off good on ya) so this option too is out due to practicality issue.
So I ask you guys LiquidHYDROGEN and Co
What should I wear that will be considered Islaamic and yet Show my Somaliniimo roots too? Just a reminder if we have ruled the khamiis traditionally unislaamic, the three pieces suits or jeans have no chance.
Your recommendations will be appreciated

Re: The existential threat posed by the Abu Hebel and Umu Heblaayo society to Somalinimo.'

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:44 pm
by TheFuturist
And the funny thing is I have seen Gulf-Arabs say to Somalis: why are you wearing a khamis, you are not Arab :lol: I was like damn that's cold :ooh: And then the cabiid did the walk of shame out of the room in his Arab khamis dress :damn: :dead:

Re: The existential threat posed by the Abu Hebel and Umu Heblaayo society to Somalinimo.'

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:50 pm
by Cherine
They would be very offended if Faisal Waraabe's Somali gaajo ass walked around their country dressed like he's Arab nobility.

Re: The existential threat posed by the Abu Hebel and Umu Heblaayo society to Somalinimo.'

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:56 pm
by LiquidHYDROGEN
I remember some qatari guy in my uni was making fun of pakistani guys wearing khamiiz and cumamad who were protesting about some war. He was saying "Why are they wearing traditional qatari clothes?". :lol:

Re: The existential threat posed by the Abu Hebel and Umu Heblaayo society to Somalinimo.'

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:00 pm
by jalaaludin5
TheFuturist wrote:Jalaaludin either you're paranoid, or your love for Arab clothing is clouding your judgement. Wtf is this 'ujeedada gaar ah'.

And how can you suggest that wearing Arab dress isnt important?! These are the very people that some amongst us seek to behave like. It is what they want: to emulate their behaviour, their way of talking, their dress, to mirror their society whilst turning a bad eye to their flaws. If Khamiiska is as you say a symbol of the Arabian Gulf, it is also a symbol of of oppression of the poor/weak, of extremism, of excessive extravagance, of misogyny and of racism. You are a Somali, why should you wish to emulate another culture/society/people?

I am not nostalic of the past. If anything i'm trying to preserve the little good that we have going for us, I don't want the current GOOD aspects of our culture and our beautiful manner of practising the religion to be submerged under a regime of Gulf-Arabism and Wahabism.

I am all for preserving our culture.

And as for some of us wanting to behave like Arab.....? And if wearing a khamis in your eyes equate to arabwannabe then so be it. I rather see that than young faraxs wearing their pants low, emulating AA/Caribbean and gangbanging.

As far as am concern there is absolutely nothing wrong with trying to identify with wider muslim world than plant seeds of hatred and animosity over something as harmless and beautiful as our Islamic garms.

What you guys need to understand is that the delicate balance that existed in the past between Islam and our culture and way of doing things is over. There is no turning back the clock so it makes no sense attacking Somalis who want to wear their Islamic garmz to display their faith. Even if that wasn't the intention the aggressive way of your approach and condescending....'we have the cure to somali problems' manner need to be evaluated.

I mean look at us.
You are Somali and muslim but here we are.
I say yey you say ney.
But I ain't trying to attack the way your dress yet here you are stubbing away at something so sacred :lol: the khamis.

How can we even agree on anything if you think you can change forcibly something that is attached to our faith, physical and spiritually.

How about you take the time to accommodate the khamis wearing the same way you accomodate the macawis wearing Somali in the name of all things precious and worth preserving. ?

For a Somali who want to preserve what's left of our culture you sure are a novice when it comes grabbing the attention of your intended audiences (somali).

Its not only your culture it's also ours. So unless you think you are more of a Somali than the khamis wearing blessed masses, tone down a notch sxb.

Ps....Sleaking of somali.....qolomaad tahay :lol:
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Re: The existential threat posed by the Abu Hebel and Umu Heblaayo society to Somalinimo.'

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:02 pm
by Cherine
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