Reverts discussing Somali girls

[Raganimo]

I wish I could see this loser face to face so I could smack some sense into him. I can't stand these pathetic, whiny losers.

[MayDay777]

His calaacal is on other level

never seen such self hate

[grandpakhalif]

Phinks just described himself as an effeminate, forever virgin, loser. Usually self hate reflects that individuals shortcomings and in order to escape embarrassment blames their own ethnicity. Maybe he was that nerd in highschool that failed to garner Somali female attention and is up until present day failing to succeed with them despite all his endeavours. The only avenue left for him is to bitch online and we see the nasty lashout today, perhaps its a form of therapy to release pent up sexual frustration!

[AwRastaale]

Even the white reverts know Somali ceeb is cheap.

[Raganimo]

There's actually a growing number of Arab women where I live who specifically go after Somali guys. The Palestinian woman I was with told me that she didn't want to marry an Arab because Arabs were abusive. She basically only dates Somalis.

Heck, even married Arabs and Kurds try to have affairs with us lol.

It's 2016. Why is this xoolo using outdated clichés and dumb stereotypes that would only apply if we were all fobs??

This person is mentally unstable and has a severe self-image problem. He is trying to project that BS on the rest of us.

[AwRastaale]

Isn't pinky a chick?

I tho it was some chick probably half-Somali (MJ) and half-Aussie. The daughter of Mr Isse Farole? Or was he married to an Asian?

Whatever pinky is give that sucker a break. He or she is my fellow Melbournean.

Wa caruurti halkan lagu dhalay.

[Mahamoud81]

Damn, you dudes piled on the kid. Take it easy. He sounds like a young confused teenager still finding his way in the world. He actually thinks if Somalis were to become super-nerds tomorrow that xalimos would magically stop marrying out at the rates they do. All one has to look at to dispel this notion is the AA community. Nothing wrong with being intellectuals and excelling academics, and I agree with him that we should aim for academic excellence but not for the pursuit of Somali kintir (never heard a girl's panties getting wet from a guy crunching differential equations ), but rather for our own individual benefits and to benefit our community at large.

[Raganimo]

Brothers, billahi calaykum read this thread... Wallahi it will make your blood boil!

It takes a turn and two Somali girls from the UK begin to bash Somali men in front of Ajnabi onlookers. Then this effeminate lebanese dude begins to go in on Somalis. I registered just to karbaash this punk but my post has to be approved by a Mod so it will probably be deleted:

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.p ... them-a-lot

I've learned one thing from this: Women have no loyalty to race or ethnicity. How could they bring themselves to negatively stereotype their own in front of these racist scumbags???! Where is the dhiig?? Where is the sharaf?? Wallahi even if you think we are all scum, how can you get yourself to sit in front of people who despise us and go in on us?? Aren't we your fathers, brothers and cousins?? What the hell? This makes zero sense to me! I have not seen this amount of self-hate in any group of people. I am genuinely shocked and this has deeply disturbed me (no calaacal). How could I, as a Somali, sit in a mixed forum amongst people who already see me as inferior, and begin to bash my own women?? I would never do such a thing because I have dhiig iyo sharaf. I don't even think that those who bash somali women here on Somnet would be doing the same in a mixed forum.

It has also opened my eyes to something which I have begun to notice a lot lately. There are many "religious" Somalis (men and women alike) who are dabadhilif for other Muslims. They have an inferiority complex particularly vs. Arabs.

Most of this mess is going on in the UK. Reer UK, what the hell is wrong with you???? You have embarrassed us.

I have seen UK blacks oo soomaalida ka faana! What the hell is going on with the Somali community in the UK, meesha waaba lagu dhintaye.. nacalaa..

[Raganimo]

^^Please read that link and tell me what you think guys.. are you equally as disturbed?

[Raganimo]

Some of the posts (before they delete the thread):

OP:

I'm a 27 year old Somali man, and this is really starting to annoy me. I always hear about Somali women marrying reverts...especially here in the UK. I don't understand why Somali girls like reverts so much. Why do reverts always go to the Somali Mosques to find a wife. Is it because they think the Pakistani or Arab mosques won't accept them, but the Somali one will?? One time my parents and the parents of my distant cousin who is half Somali half Ethiopian wanted to set us up together and that hopefully it would lead to a marriage. I met her a few weeks later as she lives in a different city from me, and I thought she was extremely beautiful. I truly thought she was one of the most beautiful girls I ever saw, and so of course I was interested in her even more. I thought she was interested in me as well, but days later her parents called me and told me she thinks I'm a good man, but that she doesn't want to get married at the moment, she's not "ready". I was really sad because I think I'm a good looking guy, tall, handsome, educated, and with a good job...so I was extremely disappointed because I was very attracted to her and her personality. After a while, I finally got over her...but only MONTHS later, I find out she's engaged to some English revert and I got really angry. Now they're married, and I just feel so jealous of him and feel disgusted when I see them together. I know it's wrong to feel this way, but I was so shocked to find out only months later she was engaged.....what does he have, that I don't have? Only difference is his white skin? How pathetic.

I'm concerned because they are my women, and it's bothering me. You don't see many Lebanese or Algerian women married to white reverts...so why is this happening with Somali women??

The usual posts, accusing the brother of having jahiliyya in him and that he should wish for his Muslim brother what he wishes for himself (completely misapplying the concept), I'll post a few:

They aren't your woman. They don't belong to you. You only share the same language, country and religion other than that they're free to do as they like as long as its under islamic law.
You need to stop being jealous and find someone else.

Somali women are slaves of Allah and that is it really.

No such thing as they belong to Somali men or the other way around.

The Prophet said as long as a man with whose deen, and khuluq you are pleased comes forth allow him to marry or else there will be corruption.

If you are livid because this girl in particular married another man then you need to accept the qadar of Allah and move on swiftly bi' ithn Allah.

There are many, many, many Somali girls. But you shouldn't limit yourself either.

I don't even understand why people ask questions like these.

Eritrean sister complains that Somalis are racist, her sister is married to a Somali and apparently they receive a lot of hate. Then for some reason, these Somali girls begin to humiliate and degrade Somali men like I've never seen before. This BS sounds like it could come from a nazi (or Pinky):

I get annoyed at people like you, who get annoyed and think Somali women are your women.
There was one situation that a revert friend of mine was telling me about, which particularly angered me. A Somali man walked into the mosque and after hearing that a white brother was married to a Somali girl he confronted him and asked him "brother are you married to a Somali girl" the brother said yes in which he replied "okay, have you got any sisters?" the white brother replied yes, then the Somali guy had the audacity to ask "can I have one of your sisters, since you married one of ours, I want one of yours" baring in mind these two were complete strangers.

I think it's extremely pathetic, alhamdulilah for the white brothers patience and good character, he calmly walked away from the crowd and talked to the brother calmly.
I'm Somali myself and to be honest i'm not attracted to Somali men at all, never have never will be. There are plenty of Somali women that ARE attracted to Somali men, maybe you should find one of them.

These next two posts are the worst:

Okay,
I hope I can shed some light on this. I'm Somali right.
I love being Somali, nothing wrong with being Somali. Marrying outside the Somali race is no big deal at all.
I don't understand why the OP is so frustrated. Actually, I can sympathise because most Somali men prefer their own. Fortunately, this is not reciprocated. I say fortunately for a reason by the way, why? Because Somali men realllllyyy and I mean really haven't built up a good reputation with us.
I agree the younger generation are better compared to the older, but not a vast difference.
A lot of OLDER generation are laze abouts who stay in coffee shops all day, that's the truth. They hardly provide for their women.
I'm not even exaggerating at ALL. Just step outside, and go to a Somali populated area. Now I know, it's not to generalise. I absolutely agree with that. That's not from intellect to say all people as such and such. But to be fair, the younger generation haven't provided anything to show their entirely different. You see what I'm saying?

I actually find white guys highly attractive to be honest, don't get jealous. Some Somali guys are attractive, but I've always been into white guys
It's just a preference. That's all.
It's not so much the white skin, but HIGHLY due to their mannerisms, and their approach to women.
The aqlaak of the Somali men, has not proven to be very different to their pre-decessors and trust! No women wants someone like that.

Count on this. It's the mans character, not his looks that probs 9/10 times wins a women's heart.
Not merely the colour of their skin, some even daaarkk skin guys are nice looking because of their features.


Another trait which infuritates me about Somali men is their promiscuity. SubhanAllah, some men be having like intimate conversations to non mahram women even though they have a wife and like 7+ kids. Wallah this is true!
Of course, you find the odd Somali decent guy, but the rare to comeby. Most sisters and trust me ive heard a lot of sisters mention that they never want to marry a Somali guy aren't bothered to such for that odd guy.
Reverts are lovely, decent and on deen ma Shaa Allah. May Allah preserve all of our Muslim brothers
. Ameen.

If you want to appeal to the Somali women(younger generation) then attempt to remove this stereotype because a fair proportion of us don't have a positive perception of Somali men

I hope this helped. Please don't take any offence.

So this airhead bimbo just spent an entire post negatively stereotyping all of us, yet she ends her post by telling us to combat the exact same stereotypes that she and her ilk continue to perpetuate?

Notice how she defines us all by the worst amongst us and defines the whites by the best amongst them. As if there are no vices and evils amongst whites (including reverts) such as aspects of jahiliyah which they may have retained. Let's continue:

Let's not insult all of them. But to be fair, a lot of them are, (except my dad obvs lol)
But yeah, somali men have a very bad rapport with Somali women.
Alot of the accusations made from them are 99% of the time probbably true tho, yu know?

99% of us are apparently khat-chewing deadbeats with 7 children... haye, waan gartay.. what more do you self-hating najis have to say?

Here's the other one:

That's why I said most lol, cus my dad is perfect too alhamdulilah.
I think Somali women make a much bigger effort than Somali men to be honest. That's why men from other countries wanna marry them.
it's not really that common, well from what ive seen anyway, for Somali men to marry outside of their own, because nobody really wants them if you ask me, that's why they're so scared of Somali women marrying men from other countries, because they will be left with nothing lol.
sitting in cafes with green teeth and dopey eyes, drinking tea chatting nonsense with no job isn't gonna get them anywehere to be honest. no job, dress sense isn't particularly great, and they wonder why we marry foreign men?

Notice how their fathers are always the exception though... interesting lol..

hate is a strong word, I don't hate them. I just dislike the way some of them portray themselves. I don't generalize either, it's my personal opinion about most of them in the UK. I can't walk down the street without someone father, yes father trying to perv on me, and saying inappropriate things to me, of course I'm gonna have anger towards them, it's vile and unislamic.

Then they start begging white reverts:

how do you find a white revert anyway? Just curious....

I would like to know that as well!
Lol
In London yu find the rare few, but at least in my area of London I rarely see white reverts.
But for some reason they get married quickly, often to Pakistani sisters ma Shaa Allah, which takes them out of the equation.

It's a good thing that they don't care about staying in the culture or race. Because that is not what's important.
Religion is important, and it's the only thing that really matters because we've been put in this world to worship Allah.
And if a Somali woman or any other woman who finds a good pious man that will bring out the best in her and make her happy
then who cares if he's black white green or purple? it doesn't mean they hate themselves (as you think) it means that they're more concerned
about the bigger picture.

^This is from the one who stated earlier that she wouldn't even consider a Somali brother. They're straight up hypocrites who hide behind Diin when it's convenient. When it comes to reverts it's "no akhee, we should not stereotype. Deen is more important than culture". When it comes to Somalis "Uff, I would never consider a Somali. They are all scum".

The effeminate, passive aggressive Lebanese enters the discussion:

It's a good thing that they don't care about staying in the culture or race. Because that is not what's important.
Religion is important, and it's the only thing that really matters because we've been put in this world to worship Allah.
And if a Somali woman or any other woman who finds a good pious man that will bring out the best in her and make her happy
then who cares if he's black white green or purple? it doesn't mean they hate themselves (as you think) it means that they're more concerned
about the bigger picture.

So far so good. Not let's see what this "pious brother" really thinks:

If all the women of your race leave for foreign men it will be hard. Plus, it's harder for a Somalian man to get a white or Arab woman because unfortunately: 1) Families are against their daughter marrying a Black man (2) Socio-Economically Somali men are poorer (3) Women don't marry men below their class (4) Most Muslima reverts want Arab men ...... Even I had a female cousin who tried to marry a Somalian man she was mixed herself, her mom was Ukrainian but he was rejected by my uncle. It's a shame. There still is taboo against marrying Blacks.

Anaguu Lebanese noo xayeesiinayaa. I know what these people are all about and Wallahi their women are known as some of the cheapest women amongst the Arabs. Beirut is the brothel of the middle east for a reason..

Actually, Somalis aren't like other Blacks culturally-speaking. They usually marry within their own groups and aren't into white women. Somali women are the female version of Black-American men though. XD. Back in 2012 there was this white revert in my Masjid. He just reverted... After 1 day into his conversion, he was approached by a Somali man with a picture in his hand. A picture of a Somali girl and he asked "Do you want to marry her?". The revert declined the offer. Because he wasn't attracted to Black women. I was just laughing at how aggressive they were to find a white revert for their women. Somali men can't get other women that's why they stick to their women for dear life. So I can see where the jealousy is coming from. Most Somali interracial, the women are usually Somali.

^This particular comment infuriated me the most. This smug POS needs to be put in his place.

[Raganimo]

Funny thing is they ended up confirming everything that the OP said:

They positively stereotyped white reverts (as if they are all good) and negatively stereotyped Somali men (some even stated that the stereotypes were true for 99% of us)..

I have noticed that these Salafi types are the biggest self-haters. They hide behind the diin to cover their self-hate and shame of being associated with Somaliness. Notice how many of the guys will constantly wear khamiis/thawb 24/7 but ask one of them to go to the masjid wearing macawis (which is also Sunnah by the way, it's called 'izaar in Arabic) and most of them will freak out. Everytime I see them talking to Arabs, their body posture is that of an inferior being. Not all of them, but I have seen many who fit the description. They spread this failed notion that loving your culture and wanting to preserve it is the same as being a tribalist.

I also hate how people harp on about the state of Somalia to argue that we are somehow inherently inferior and incapable of achieving great things. Why should we allow ourselves to be defined by 20 years of civil war when our history spans thousands of years?

The Europeans had 30 year wars, inquisitions, two world wars, yet they did not let any of that define their culture. If they had the same self-hating uskag in their ranks, they would not have moved past these wars.

[MayDay777]

Raganimo you need to stop giving a fuck about these hoes

[GIJaamac]

Lol, this is a repost I did a while back on another similar thread. The reasons why this happens is because;


1. Majority of Somali guys are ugly. Only 15% could probably pass as good looking.


2. We are one of the weakest and most useless group of men on the planet. Our sex drive is laughable and it seems that most Somali guys bodies are still in pre-pubescent stages. I mean why do you think Somali girls nicknamed us skinnies?


3. We're lazy and we chew khat on a daily basis whilst staying at a "friends" coffee shop. By "friend", I mean a member of the same clan.


4. Our teeth are a mess and our foreheads protrude.

Why Allah why?! <.<


5. We bald in our teens. I think that's pretty self explanatory.

6. We have no ambition to pursue academic excellence or intelligence of any sorts. I mean, I'm sure you all know that majority of Somali guys are fuckups in school and don't count that ONE faarax who actually excels in his studies. They're ONLY exceptions.


7. FOBS fucked everything up for us. Society literally assumes we look like these piece of shit FOBS and we Somali guys are even portrayed in the media like ugly FOBS.


**cough** Captain Phillips **cough**



8. The media promotes non-Somali men so the blame could be inclined to those of Hollywood.


There you go, this is why your women are marrying out in droves. Don't even try to bother denying the above. At the end of the day these broads can do whatever they like. It's their choice and what they're doing is still in the confines of a xalal marriage, maybe their reasons are flawed but hey, let's not act like Somali men are these little innocents who are practising pious Muslims. The vast majority as I've clearly said before are major fuckups. Hell, I'm surprised most Somali women are still loyal to us.

And as for this I thread, I'm done.

Sadly this is true. the reason why somali guys are so bitter towards xaliimos marrying out is ajanabi men of every race are way more attracted to xaliimos than ajanabi women to faaraxs. Usually somali guys can get only fat white whales or ugly dark skin black women who are fascinated with somali hair although xaliimos too can only get low quality ajanabi guys. Add to this weak patriarchal culture and self-hating loose females and you can see why somali females are so easy to get by ajanabi guys. Modern day somali guys are equivalent to effeminate indian guys without honor killing culture. 21st century somali people are taking L's left and right. We should fix our country ASAP. There's no other way to regain our dignity.

[Raganimo]

Raganimo you need to stop giving a fuck about these hoes

I'm trying to make sense of all this. How on earth can you sit and spew such vile vitriol against your own people???

I need to become desensitised to this crap man.. Honestly it makes my blood boil. Wallahi I would have pimp-smacked some of these people if they said what they said in front of me.

Notice how people more or less accepted the nasty things that were being said about us? There were even Somali guys (all a bunch of dabadhilif except for one who got banned - how ironic), who sat through that crap and still kept kissing up to the other forumites.

I grew up amongst Carabta and I know exactly which buttons to push for each nationality so they can never talk crap in front of me. But what got me was the Somali women who had zero xishood, honour, self-respect or dignity.

Screw this, I'm going back home or to the Gulf ASAP. At least the communities there aren't this confused and pathetic.

[Mahamoud81]

Those are salafis. Their whole aqeedah is predicated on worship of Arab culture and the veneration of the Arab man. It's not just limited to bashing of Somali men on that forum either. Pakistani/Hindi bros as well afghanis get it too, and you can find just as many posts of their women calling them grave-worshiping mushrikeen (audhobillah) and how they want to marry a revert or Arab brother that understands the deen and is not "brainwashed" by this culture of "shirk". A bunch of lost people, but I ain't losing sleep over it.