Several liyyu police killed by armed Oromo warriors

[Waachis]

That's all that's there to discuss. Your internal politics does not concern us. You have meddled in ours for 27 years but it's okay, we take it to the chin, and we also take accountability for it as Somalis. We know who our enemies are. And we know how to deal with the issue

I suggest you also take the 77 loss to the chin, and take responsibility for any of your shortcomings instead of coming on here talking about "I wasn't ready" you knew it was a fight..what did you expect?. You are clearly a geek who has never been in a fight

Politics of your neighbors country, will always, in one way or another, affect the politics in your region.
For example--when the oromo and amhara protests were scaring the tigrayans, they were pulling troops back from mogadishu.
this means, less war crimes being committed by ethiopian troops in somalia! get it now?
this is a direct effect due to internal politics in ethiopia.
and as long as the somali state/ogaden region is within ethiopia, those somalis are considered ethiopian, and their general welfare is at least somewhat related to the general welfare of the ethiopian state.
and i suggest you take the 1963 ass whipping to the chin too, when ethiopia was stable, somalia could not capture any land.
stating the facts is not complaining, it's what it is is---the truth.
imagine if ethiopia were to invade somalia today, engage the new SNA, smash them to bits, and then brag? what points would ethiopia get for destroying the army of a failed state? none....
and LOL i do not have to brag about the fighting i've done---anytime you're in texas, i can show you what i can do, instead of talking about it

Go ahead, do you think that Ethiopia could don't you think they would've grabbed it with both ass cheeks? Do you think they are doing Somalia a favour? Our enemies and their lackeys are clear to us like daylight. I didn't come nor care about your politics, this is somalinet, please understand that. If I was eager or was somewhat remotely interested in your history I would've gone onto one of your Oromo forums. I don't care about any of that.

You corrected yourself end of discussion.

Who said Ethiopia was doing ANYONE a favor? They would not be in Somalia in the first place if your country did not collapse and not recover yet. If there was a central government with the capability of wiping out the terrorists, Ethiopia would have no excuse to invade Somalia.
I personally am against the war, but the ICU itself was openly threatening Ethiopia--so they can't cry when the Ethiopians come in full force to crush them like bugs.
You do not have to care, but whatever happens in Ethiopia, will always effect the entire region, like it or not, this is a fact.

[AwRastaale]

Oromo warriors like Ras Makonnen, Ras Darge and half Oromo Atse Menelik conquered Ogaden.

Your chained to Ethiopia and freedom denied because of Oromo warriors.

In 1963 it was a quick decisive victory for Ethiopia but this time it was delivered by Eritreans.

In 1977 Ogaden and the Daroods fled from 80% of the arms supplied to Somali Republic because they were chased by Oromo and Cubans.

The only time Ogaden ever harassed Oromo was in the last decade of the 18th century when they found the Bale Oromo in the open.

But while in pursuit or chasing these Oromo especially across the Shabelle river with spears, the mighty Yejju and Raayyu showed up leading hundreds of thousands of Abyssinian soldiers.

They decimated the Ogaden in days, looting their cattle, taken camels as bargaining chip, killing 4,000 in just one battle and building bases all the way to Degehbur.

The Ogaden had no idea what hit them and had not been for the Italians who halted these Abyssinian Oromo, they would have occupied as far as Hobyo.

As for Ethiopia and Oromo, the two are inseparable. Oromo is Ethiopia and Ethiopia is Oromia.

Not only had Oromo expanded Ethiopia to what it is today (modern state) but it was the Oromo-native Emperor Haile Selassie who renamed Abyssinia Ethiopia.

The only place that got away was Eritrea and that's because Oromo played little to no role on that front.

It was four Oromo armies who also delivered the Adwa victory, the second greatest African victory over Europeans after Hannibal.

These armies were led by Dejazmach Balcha Safo, Ras Ali Mohammed, Ras Makonnen and the Queen of Wollo, who set Menelik free from Tewodros II.


Facts.

Thanks brother, for sharing your knowledge. We may not always see eye-to-eye, but I have always respected your intellect.
Most Somalis view Ethiopian history in a simplistic viewpoint (as amhara being the big bad conqueror), when in reality, it's not that simple.
It's nice to see a Somali brother who took the time to study the history.

No problem my friend.

Everyone knows I am one of the most prominent Ethiopologist on the net.

Posted by Maxi on 12 Feb 2015, 20:40

Hawdian, your knowledge of East African history ingeneral and Ethiopian history in particular is amazing.

You made a great history lesson in few lines that could have been 100 pages.

Tnxs

Oromo always played a role in Ethiopia be it Axum time under the Agew-led Zagwe dynasty or the foundations of Emperor Yekuno Amlak, the resurrector of Solomonic dynasty and founder of Amharic as an official courts language having replaced Geez.

There are no ethicity called Amhara in reality. It is a group who speak a common language and if languages make us all a particular ethnic then there would be such thing as a Swahila/Swahili ethnic.

Oromo was there always and Yekuno fleeing from the Agews sought shelter in the south amongst the Oromo people. Those soldiers who came with him and that migration is hailed as freedom or free people by some intellectuals and state actually Amhara means Free People.

Again paying tribute to their Oromo host, the southern people (south of Axum).

The Ras shares only knowledge not beats the drum for empty boasting and falsehood supremacy.

Ethiopia is as Oromo as it comes.

[Waachis]

Oromo warriors like Ras Makonnen, Ras Darge and half Oromo Atse Menelik conquered Ogaden.

Your chained to Ethiopia and freedom denied because of Oromo warriors.

In 1963 it was a quick decisive victory for Ethiopia but this time it was delivered by Eritreans.

In 1977 Ogaden and the Daroods fled from 80% of the arms supplied to Somali Republic because they were chased by Oromo and Cubans.

The only time Ogaden ever harassed Oromo was in the last decade of the 18th century when they found the Bale Oromo in the open.

But while in pursuit or chasing these Oromo especially across the Shabelle river with spears, the mighty Yejju and Raayyu showed up leading hundreds of thousands of Abyssinian soldiers.

They decimated the Ogaden in days, looting their cattle, taken camels as bargaining chip, killing 4,000 in just one battle and building bases all the way to Degehbur.

The Ogaden had no idea what hit them and had not been for the Italians who halted these Abyssinian Oromo, they would have occupied as far as Hobyo.

As for Ethiopia and Oromo, the two are inseparable. Oromo is Ethiopia and Ethiopia is Oromia.

Not only had Oromo expanded Ethiopia to what it is today (modern state) but it was the Oromo-native Emperor Haile Selassie who renamed Abyssinia Ethiopia.

The only place that got away was Eritrea and that's because Oromo played little to no role on that front.

It was four Oromo armies who also delivered the Adwa victory, the second greatest African victory over Europeans after Hannibal.

These armies were led by Dejazmach Balcha Safo, Ras Ali Mohammed, Ras Makonnen and the Queen of Wollo, who set Menelik free from Tewodros II.


Facts.

Thanks brother, for sharing your knowledge. We may not always see eye-to-eye, but I have always respected your intellect.
Most Somalis view Ethiopian history in a simplistic viewpoint (as amhara being the big bad conqueror), when in reality, it's not that simple.
It's nice to see a Somali brother who took the time to study the history.

No problem my friend.

Everyone knows I am one of the most prominent Ethiopologist on the net.

Posted by Maxi on 12 Feb 2015, 20:40

Hawdian, your knowledge of East African history ingeneral and Ethiopian history in particular is amazing.

You made a great history lesson in few lines that could have been 100 pages.

Tnxs

Oromo always played a role in Ethiopia be it Axum time under the Agew-led Zagwe dynasty or the foundations of Emperor Yekuno Amlak, the resurrector of Solomonic dynasty and founder of Amharic as an official courts language having replaced Geez.

There are no ethicity called Amhara in reality. It is a group who speak a common language and if languages make us all a particular ethnic then there would be such thing as a Swahila/Swahili ethnic.

Oromo was there always and Yekuno fleeing from the Agews sought shelter in the south amongst the Oromo people. Those soldiers who came with him and that migration is hailed as freedom or free people by some intellectuals and state actually Amhara means Free People.

Again paying tribute to their Oromo host, the southern people (south of Axum).

The Ras shares only knowledge not beats the drum for empty boasting and falsehood supremacy.

Ethiopia is as Oromo as it comes.

May Allah give you a long life so you can see the Oromo capturing state power in Ethiopia. With the amhara as our co partners among the gurage, agew, silte, etc.
If the somali of Ethiopia join us, they would benefit more, but alas, the short sighted abdi iley aka abd tigray, sided with a minority whose future in Ethiopia is unpredictable.
The future of Ethiopia is in the hands of the two giants, primarily, the Oromo and Amhara, and then the agew, gurage, potentially the Somali, etc....
Independent Tigray won't happen unless they give up their claims to fertile lands in afar, amhara and Eritrean areas.

[Jabuutawi]

Just stop quoting other people's posts. It is dizzyingly out of control and maddening.

Moreover, are you the spokesman for Amhara? You filthy scum is so insecure that every third sentence you utter is "Amhara and Galla..." . I don't give a rat's ass what Amhara or their stooges, Gallas, think and do. We will continue hunting you down, just like my forefathers before me, and ensure we neutralize any threat to our region. GTFOH!

You are going too far with threatening people here. "Come to Texas and see what I do to you?" Say what! You think you dealing with kids. What you gonna do anyway? You think anyone would shake in their boots because a Galla boy said something, .

Don't you dare quote me boy!

[AwRastaale]

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May Allah give you a long life so you can see the Oromo capturing state power in Ethiopia. With the amhara as our co partners among the gurage, agew, silte, etc.
If the somali of Ethiopia join us, they would benefit more, but alas, the short sighted abdi iley aka abd tigray, sided with a minority whose future in Ethiopia is unpredictable.
The future of Ethiopia is in the hands of the two giants, primarily, the Oromo and Amhara, and then the agew, gurage, potentially the Somali, etc....
Independent Tigray won't happen unless they give up their claims to fertile lands in afar, amhara and Eritrean areas.

Oromo and Amhara will regain their Menelik palace and it won't be a long wait.

Remember before they waited almost 400 years to rule for 900 years straight.

The most Tigrai will rule won't be more than 40-50 years.

But what is needed is Shoa Amhara and Yejju Oromo on the forefront.

If Shoa Amhara get too preoccupied with fear of Oromo, Tigrais will continue to create discourse between the two giants.

We need a balance and reconciliation between the Arsi and the Yejju too.

[Kismaayo21]

Politics of your neighbors country, will always, in one way or another, affect the politics in your region.
For example--when the oromo and amhara protests were scaring the tigrayans, they were pulling troops back from mogadishu.
this means, less war crimes being committed by ethiopian troops in somalia! get it now?
this is a direct effect due to internal politics in ethiopia.
and as long as the somali state/ogaden region is within ethiopia, those somalis are considered ethiopian, and their general welfare is at least somewhat related to the general welfare of the ethiopian state.
and i suggest you take the 1963 ass whipping to the chin too, when ethiopia was stable, somalia could not capture any land.
stating the facts is not complaining, it's what it is is---the truth.
imagine if ethiopia were to invade somalia today, engage the new SNA, smash them to bits, and then brag? what points would ethiopia get for destroying the army of a failed state? none....
and LOL i do not have to brag about the fighting i've done---anytime you're in texas, i can show you what i can do, instead of talking about it

that's international for " I am not about that life"

About ''what life?''
You have to be more specific Zoomali pirate boy.
If it's fist-fight, come to my hood and ask the big homies how I get down.
Anybody can squeeze guns---but it takes heart, skills and tactics to win a fist fight.

Shut up you weirdo, stay in your mums basement ahahaha

Threatening someone online is the number one indication that your not on this.

[MayDay777]

Where is bareentu? I want to know if Oromos truly are this retarded or this person is a troll sheegato.

[Khalid Ali]

waaachis is right somalis are very dumb especially those from the south or ogadens. they dont know oromo.. some of u think oromo are just a few olf arsi and afran qallo. oromo is much more than that. oromo are the majority of ethiopia. the shewan oromo are the most proudest and strongest oromos with thr richest history i think they will get it right with the amharas. all that needs.to be done is that amhara respect oromo to be an equal partner in terms of resources and language. i think these 2 are the only things that matter once that happens.. ethiopia will come out stronger more powerful than ever. oromo amhara can make ethiopia great. tigre are a minority they will be defeated. the strength of oromo came from mainly 2 regions politically wollo and shewa. oromo has learned that fear of amhara is not good amhara is oromos closest brother. waachis those somalis that tell you go fight and burn your country are somalis from the south and mostly darod ogadens. and look at them they burnt their own country to the ground. don't listen to them oromo are good people who know how to share and live in peace.

[PanSomaliNationalist]

Its amazing how the minority amharas and tigres managed to keep 40 million xoolos in check.

they also run somalia like their personal backyard, kid.
if the white man supports someone with guns and money and troops, that group can conquer anyone.
that's how they conquered the ogaden too, with european made guns.
common sense bro. europe rules the world, at least for now.

You don't run shit your midget gabre was kicked out and we rejected your ass when you asked our president to come to Ethiopia. Even worse we went to ethiopias enemy saudi arabia.

We all know that but why don't you explain how you got your ass whooped by adal empire and were kicked out of the highlands even though you had portugese support? Europe itself is disinegrating so no you're wrong

[Django]

waaachis is right somalis are very dumb especially those from the south or ogadens. they dont know oromo.. some of u think oromo are just a few olf arsi and afran qallo. oromo is much more than that. oromo are the majority of ethiopia. the shewan oromo are the most proudest and strongest oromos with thr richest history i think they will get it right with the amharas. all that needs.to be done is that amhara respect oromo to be an equal partner in terms of resources and language. i think these 2 are the only things that matter once that happens.. ethiopia will come out stronger more powerful than ever. oromo amhara can make ethiopia great. tigre are a minority they will be defeated. the strength of oromo came from mainly 2 regions politically wollo and shewa. oromo has learned that fear of amhara is not good amhara is oromos closest brother. waachis those somalis that tell you go fight and burn your country are somalis from the south and mostly darod ogadens. and look at them they burnt their own country to the ground. don't listen to them oromo are good people who know how to share and live in peace.

Warya you are an insignificant fly.Anaku Oromo wanu wasna ee xitaa sh Isaaq bucurbacay hadhii uu oromo aha anaku nama dibeyso.

Fuckin habar uunsi. Wat do you think waachi and Galas could do get you ictiraaf?

Waachi is a langaab Ittu qomal very useless like Iidoor the depend on others to servive like leeches.

Habar uunsi are unhappy cos the Ogaden stopped their contaband trade in the region. we all know habar uunsi never fight they are leeches like Guraage they benefit the suffering of others.

Yohanas,Menelik, Ras Makenon Haile selassie etc did not take orders from Ogaden and they almost butchered Oromos to extinction yet this wachii is proud of it. May be he is a recent migrant fron Madagascar.


Qomal waachi read this book and see the pride of Galas in Abysina.http://www.samizdat.com/armies.html
Wether regime changes from agame to raw eating shewan fly infested amhara or not does not change facts habeshas know us.

Iidoor are hypocrites.You will see some in Addis ababa kissing ass n claimming to be Ethiopian with Ethiopian flag and speaking broken Amharic and his acts will be like inuu xabashi cabudayo so that they recognise him.You will never see an Ogaden trying to appease a xabashi in Addis ababa and they do respect us.

So Emperior aka King of Habar Uunsi of Snet you can kiss Wachiis ass as much as you like but he is not going to give you ictiraaf.

Iidoor for the past 26 yrs have tried to get ictiraaf from the IC but to no avail.They even settled large number of galas in Woqoyi Galbeed Somalia but still nothing.They are enraged that The Isaa a comparative smaller clan has Djibouti and favourable regional niche.So they are copying everthing Jibouti is doing.
While Iidoor keep on digging camel bones fron the ground and claimming to be mass graves unfounded.


Warya TPLF just sent qamandi to Iidooria something your senile President Silnyanyo could not because his admin were chewing qat 24\7.

[zidane88]

Django ha ku daalin kan Waachis la yidhaahdo. for centuries Galas were considered less humans by Amharas and here he is in 2017 blabbing and praising Amhara. I think he was born in The last 20 years. I am not saying that TPLF are saints but comparing them to Amhara,and worst of all, praising them is laughable. One example is Oromo language was not allowed to write officially and now look at Oromo cities, every shop, every business is using signs written in Oromo language. This guy has no clue about his history.

[Khalid Ali]

django u were under ethiopian control for over 135 years talk about slavery waachi is much more worthy and laandhere than your laangaab ogaden darood clan. u have failed. oromos have shaken up the foundation of the tplf in addis ababa finfinne and adama. djaNgo u are just angry we refused to help you against tigre lol we will never help you and thats why u have given up and want to dance only dhaanto and a few aid projects u were sold meles ma dhiman. oromos have a rich history they captured naked darods in 1887 it was the legendary teferi mekonnen who humiliated the jabartis and he was a shewan oromo cousin of the great menelik of shewa king of kings . darods are just trying to use oromos for their own freedom waachi knows this he will not fall for it amhara oromo alliance is a must. the reason is darod is to weak to fight thats why they are attacking the good oromo people and calling degotary term galla. amhara and oromo share blood what ever tbeir their rivalry is they are destine to be together they share culture tradition faith food history much of the amharq kings and princes were mothered by oromos. and much of the oromo aristocrats were motherd by amhara . oromo will lead Ethiopia and be successful and oroomo is good hearted they will forgive the tplf and the treasenous darod liyuu militia. and rule in just

[PanSomaliNationalist]

you guys are liyuu police slaves don't forget

[Khalid Ali]

liyuu ppolice have killed more darods raped plundered and killed the dream of darod wanting to be free from Ethiopia liyuu yes sometimes attacks isaaq or oromo but its very small its just to win extreme darod nationalist to back and forget independence and support tplf. but soon we will put an end of the tplf and place oromo in meneliks palace and darood will kiss the feet of an oromo lijj

[AwRastaale]

Where is bareentu? I want to know if Oromos truly are this retarded or this person is a troll sheegato.

That makes no sense. Bareentu is one of the two moiety of the Oromo nation and in their egalitarian social, political and spiritual hierarchy they represent the Gona.

They are spread across vast land and include the 4 Qaallu. Qaallu is the spiritual leader in Waaqa and is equivalent to Sheikh/Wadaad or Priest.

Then you have the legendary Arsi and Yejju.

Both of them are part of the Bareentu family of Oromo.

The Borana cover the most land and they include the Borana of Borana region, Tulama of Shoa, Macha of Wellega/Jimma, Raayya of Wollo and the Kaarrayyu of Awash Valley.

Btw I have lived with various Oromo from Afran Qallu, Bale (Bareentu or part of Arsi), Tulama in Adama to Borana in Moyale.

If you want to know Waachis in Afaan Oromo it's similar to the Somali analogy that being hot blooded is brave. Waachis is when someone becomes infuriated and thus his blood boils---Oromo bravery.

I like this Oromo brother he is learning about his people and in the process using that as his username(s).



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