Breaking: Axmed Madoobe faces impending motion

[Publicopinion]

Kismayo should be federal city.am a Kenya u Niiki am a amhara adiga a yey ku jury's.

[GuleedWarsame]

This is the result of trusting leadership position to a warlord.

[gobdoon]

I do not like the situation for Kismayo since 91 having spent 4 years in that city in 1970's
So I dont know when and why reer Kismayo learnt qabiil they used to mind their own busines hence KISMAYO IYO NIN WALOWBA KISTAADA
Kismaayo somali oo dhan ba leh kuligeena waxaynu nahay somaali waxana dani nogi jirta midnimo iyo ka sada shaqaynta nabada geyiga somaliya oo dhan lama kala laha.

[metamorphosis]

I say Gedo for Rer Gedo, Kismaayo for Rer Kismaayo and Afmadow for Rer Afmadow.

Considering my family has lived in Kismaayo since before independence we have witness power changing hands and while it effected the locals I have never seen this level of land disputes in Kismaayo.

It is reaching a breaking point and unfortunately will be a massive set back to JL, Madoobe proved to us he is a war profiteer and does not care about JL, if he does not accept stepping down he will not drag JL down with him, only his supporters will join him in the depths of hell.

Also the picture is meaningless, Kismaayo residents are very mix, this isn't some watering hole that geeljires fight over, this is a town with settled communities, disturbing their peace and land grabbing will result in major blood shed, hopefully the culprits will be singled out and reconciliation can go forward.

Now all the sudden pictures dont mean nothing miyaa lol. Ogaden were in kismayo before you, we ruled kismayo up until somalia got independence. We ruled it after the civil war while marehans were running behind morgan, abandoning him only after 98 when hirraale showed up with cayr. 20 years ago, it was harti and og disputing over kismaayo. Never in history was marehan part of the equation. It started in 98, where you before that? How come you never controlled the city pre independence? Can u answer that? How come there is so much evidence of ogadens ruling and fighting there but no mention whatsoever of marehan and kismayo?

You guys are the ones trying to land grab. Why would hiiraale work wirh cayr when they have stolen your lands in GG and pushed you to the border?

How come someone from gedo talk about kismaayo and who should live there? At best, you will be left with gedo minus baardheere of course.

Maba xishootaan.

We want to protect Jubaland future from idiotic madoobe.

When I say land grab, I am not concerned with the illegal occupation of public land, but rather the constant killing of Jareer workers on privately owned land, and the mafia style bullying of private owners of businesses, homes and lands. This is not real development it is extortionist mafia take over of my city, it will reach a boiling point.

Madoobe is not thinking about the long term, if he turns the population of Rer Kismaayo against him, when the administration change all the losers that came with madoobe will face a rude awakening, maxaa idin diiday xalaal business, xalaal purchasing of land ? even the hutu realised xaram will not get them far and my family sold alot of land in Mogadishu for alot of money.

hungry cagdheer want conflict war and instability, mainly because they are happy to create conflict in Somalia and run back to Kenya as second class citizens, but Kismaayo is our home we have no where to run to so we will not allow it.

This is somalia, it isn't f-king Swizerland sxb. Injustice is unfolding all across somalia, your best mates aka cayr, the niggas whose cock you rode to kismaayo in 98 are blowing people up in xamar by the hundreds, they are stealing lands from biyomaal as we speak, and they are stealing land from you. The president is handing over innocent men who served somalia. Gabooyes are still untouchables in the north. Why do you think kismayo is different? ma utopian baad mooday? holding kismayo to a different standard is unfair but you are only doing it because it's an OG adminstration. When hiiraale killed xaaji qoraxay in 99, maad xasuusataa? Did we kill any prominent marehans yet? NO!


Secondly, how come you guys didnt fight for kismayo against alshabab? You want the people who bled to capture the city to move a side for you to rule, what kind of caqli baad isticmaalaysaa niyoow? You can keep gedo, give back faafax dhuun and baardheere, and have your own state. Ogadens have everything they need to make a two jubba jubbaland admin without you folks, we don't need you, you need us. I suggest yall be good boys and play nice, if not maxaad samayn kartaan if we going to be real? Nothing, the next time hiiraale tries to come into the city, he'll go back in kafan.

[metamorphosis]

^
There’s not a single Dofaar Ismaciil clan in Jamaame district nor Jilib district.

Dadkani indho adakaa, ma dhillaa?

Bu’aale is majority Gosha with some Raxanweyn and few Dir. My uncle was a soldier stationed there in the 70’s and they all spoke Af May.

He knows Cagdheer very well since he grew up in Hawd and he would’ve told me that they were living there (if they did) but they don’t.

There’s a reason why the entire Middle Jubba is in the hand of a Dir AS Amiir with most of the footsoldiers being primarily from the indigenous Jareerweyne followed by Raxanweyn.

Afweyne resettled his kin in other people’s land but Afweyne is not here today to reinforce that decision by using the state hence your appeal to KDF for protection but even they won’t die for your attempt to steal other people’s land.

the mayor of bu'aale is a reer isaaq reer cali man, and before that was auliyahan reer afwaax guy.

[Adali]

warheedhe maxaa buaale idin ka galay, dir iyo raxanweynta aad sheegeysid awood ama tiro jubaland kuma laha, subxaanaka cadiim, meesha waxaa isku haysta cawlyahan iyo MZ

[Adali]

Now all the sudden pictures dont mean nothing miyaa lol. Ogaden were in kismayo before you, we ruled kismayo up until somalia got independence. We ruled it after the civil war while marehans were running behind morgan, abandoning him only after 98 when hirraale showed up with cayr. 20 years ago, it was harti and og disputing over kismaayo. Never in history was marehan part of the equation. It started in 98, where you before that? How come you never controlled the city pre independence? Can u answer that? How come there is so much evidence of ogadens ruling and fighting there but no mention whatsoever of marehan and kismayo?

You guys are the ones trying to land grab. Why would hiiraale work wirh cayr when they have stolen your lands in GG and pushed you to the border?

How come someone from gedo talk about kismaayo and who should live there? At best, you will be left with gedo minus baardheere of course.

Maba xishootaan.

We want to protect Jubaland future from idiotic madoobe.

When I say land grab, I am not concerned with the illegal occupation of public land, but rather the constant killing of Jareer workers on privately owned land, and the mafia style bullying of private owners of businesses, homes and lands. This is not real development it is extortionist mafia take over of my city, it will reach a boiling point.

Madoobe is not thinking about the long term, if he turns the population of Rer Kismaayo against him, when the administration change all the losers that came with madoobe will face a rude awakening, maxaa idin diiday xalaal business, xalaal purchasing of land ? even the hutu realised xaram will not get them far and my family sold alot of land in Mogadishu for alot of money.

hungry cagdheer want conflict war and instability, mainly because they are happy to create conflict in Somalia and run back to Kenya as second class citizens, but Kismaayo is our home we have no where to run to so we will not allow it.

This is somalia, it isn't f-king Swizerland sxb. Injustice is unfolding all across somalia, your best mates aka cayr, the niggas whose cock you rode to kismaayo in 98 are blowing people up in xamar by the hundreds, they are stealing lands from biyomaal as we speak, and they are stealing land from you. The president is handing over innocent men who served somalia. Gabooyes are still untouchables in the north. Why do you think kismayo is different? ma utopian baad mooday? holding kismayo to a different standard is unfair but you are only doing it because it's an OG adminstration. When hiiraale killed xaaji qoraxay in 99, maad xasuusataa? Did we kill any prominent marehans yet? NO!


Secondly, how come you guys didnt fight for kismayo against alshabab? You want the people who bled to capture the city to move a side for you to rule, what kind of caqli baad isticmaalaysaa niyoow? You can keep gedo, give back faafax dhuun and baardheere, and have your own state. Ogadens have everything they need to make a two jubba jubbaland admin without you folks, we don't need you, you need us. I suggest yall be good boys and play nice, if not maxaad samayn kartaan if we going to be real? Nothing, the next time hiiraale tries to come into the city, he'll go back in kafan.

switzerland maxaa inaga galay bisinka iyo yasinka.

Yes xaqdarada you are doing against Mareexaan is unacceptable, you are stealing our land, killing our jareer workers and trying to do "ku qabso ku qadi maysid" it will not work, you are endangering the future of Jubaland with your doqonimo.

You sited 100 year old picture as justification for your naked land grabbing in 2018, what logic are you using doqon yahow ?

it is reaching a breaking point, beesha barakaysan can no longer sit by while you shitting on Jubaland future while simultaneously stealing our land.

Jareer might not be darood but they are our muslim brothers, and so far you have killed 26 Jareers in Kismaayo for no other reason than working for Marehan on land which you dispute ownership of, it is funny that this so called Wadaad Umul is trying to build on stolen land.

In constrast Beesha Barakaysan wadaado do not do this, just look at this Marehan wadaad giving justice to a Jareer worker whose brother was killed in Goldogob.

[metamorphosis]

We want to protect Jubaland future from idiotic madoobe.

When I say land grab, I am not concerned with the illegal occupation of public land, but rather the constant killing of Jareer workers on privately owned land, and the mafia style bullying of private owners of businesses, homes and lands. This is not real development it is extortionist mafia take over of my city, it will reach a boiling point.

Madoobe is not thinking about the long term, if he turns the population of Rer Kismaayo against him, when the administration change all the losers that came with madoobe will face a rude awakening, maxaa idin diiday xalaal business, xalaal purchasing of land ? even the hutu realised xaram will not get them far and my family sold alot of land in Mogadishu for alot of money.

hungry cagdheer want conflict war and instability, mainly because they are happy to create conflict in Somalia and run back to Kenya as second class citizens, but Kismaayo is our home we have no where to run to so we will not allow it.

This is somalia, it isn't f-king Swizerland sxb. Injustice is unfolding all across somalia, your best mates aka cayr, the niggas whose cock you rode to kismaayo in 98 are blowing people up in xamar by the hundreds, they are stealing lands from biyomaal as we speak, and they are stealing land from you. The president is handing over innocent men who served somalia. Gabooyes are still untouchables in the north. Why do you think kismayo is different? ma utopian baad mooday? holding kismayo to a different standard is unfair but you are only doing it because it's an OG adminstration. When hiiraale killed xaaji qoraxay in 99, maad xasuusataa? Did we kill any prominent marehans yet? NO!


Secondly, how come you guys didnt fight for kismayo against alshabab? You want the people who bled to capture the city to move a side for you to rule, what kind of caqli baad isticmaalaysaa niyoow? You can keep gedo, give back faafax dhuun and baardheere, and have your own state. Ogadens have everything they need to make a two jubba jubbaland admin without you folks, we don't need you, you need us. I suggest yall be good boys and play nice, if not maxaad samayn kartaan if we going to be real? Nothing, the next time hiiraale tries to come into the city, he'll go back in kafan.

switzerland maxaa inaga galay bisinka iyo yasinka.

Yes xaqdarada you are doing against Mareexaan is unacceptable, you are stealing our land, killing our jareer workers and trying to do "ku qabso ku qadi maysid" it will not work, you are endangering the future of Jubaland with your doqonimo.

You sited 100 year old picture as justification for your naked land grabbing in 2018, what logic are you using doqon yahow ?

it is reaching a breaking point, beesha barakaysan can no longer sit by while you shitting on Jubaland future while simultaneously stealing our land.

Jareer might not be darood but they are our muslim brothers, and so far you have killed 26 Jareers in Kismaayo for no other reason than working for Marehan on land which you dispute ownership of, it is funny that this so called Wadaad Umul is trying to build on stolen land.

In constrast Beesha Barakaysan wadaado do not do this, just look at this Marehan wadaad giving justice to a Jareer worker whose brother was killed in Goldogob.

Kismayo gormaad yeelateen? answer that and do not deflect.
beesha barakaysan barakada baa laga qaadan if they don't shut the fuck up waryaa. tuugnimo aad geed loogu gaban baad meesha ka wadaan. I can't believe we are discussing marehan and kismayo, something that became a topic in our lifetime. waa yaab.

and inaad neef tahay, how can you call it a land grab when by your own admission, we were there before you?

[Adali]

This is somalia, it isn't f-king Swizerland sxb. Injustice is unfolding all across somalia, your best mates aka cayr, the niggas whose cock you rode to kismaayo in 98 are blowing people up in xamar by the hundreds, they are stealing lands from biyomaal as we speak, and they are stealing land from you. The president is handing over innocent men who served somalia. Gabooyes are still untouchables in the north. Why do you think kismayo is different? ma utopian baad mooday? holding kismayo to a different standard is unfair but you are only doing it because it's an OG adminstration. When hiiraale killed xaaji qoraxay in 99, maad xasuusataa? Did we kill any prominent marehans yet? NO!


Secondly, how come you guys didnt fight for kismayo against alshabab? You want the people who bled to capture the city to move a side for you to rule, what kind of caqli baad isticmaalaysaa niyoow? You can keep gedo, give back faafax dhuun and baardheere, and have your own state. Ogadens have everything they need to make a two jubba jubbaland admin without you folks, we don't need you, you need us. I suggest yall be good boys and play nice, if not maxaad samayn kartaan if we going to be real? Nothing, the next time hiiraale tries to come into the city, he'll go back in kafan.

switzerland maxaa inaga galay bisinka iyo yasinka.

Yes xaqdarada you are doing against Mareexaan is unacceptable, you are stealing our land, killing our jareer workers and trying to do "ku qabso ku qadi maysid" it will not work, you are endangering the future of Jubaland with your doqonimo.

You sited 100 year old picture as justification for your naked land grabbing in 2018, what logic are you using doqon yahow ?

it is reaching a breaking point, beesha barakaysan can no longer sit by while you shitting on Jubaland future while simultaneously stealing our land.

Jareer might not be darood but they are our muslim brothers, and so far you have killed 26 Jareers in Kismaayo for no other reason than working for Marehan on land which you dispute ownership of, it is funny that this so called Wadaad Umul is trying to build on stolen land.

In constrast Beesha Barakaysan wadaado do not do this, just look at this Marehan wadaad giving justice to a Jareer worker whose brother was killed in Goldogob.

Kismayo gormaad yeelateen? answer that and do not deflect.
beesha barakaysan barakada baa laga qaadan if they don't shut the fuck up waryaa. tuugnimo aad geed loogu gaban baad meesha ka wadaan. I can't believe we are discussing marehan and kismayo, something that became a topic in our lifetime. waa yaab.

Kismaayo was never a single clan city, it was a tiny village and British outpost inhabited by different clans who live in Jubaland, then it became Italian in 1925 and saw development and population growth from two clans mainly Harti and Marehan from Italian Somaliland up north and central regions, roughly 2 decades of italian rule made an impression on the city and it became Harti dominated but as perusal Marehan were next in line and there was even neighbouring Rer Dalal mayor of Jamaame, after world war 2 and defeat of italy, it came under british military control and once again the british as they do never developed anything in Kismaayo. 1950 it came under the UN and the period from 1960-1969 we saw even more Majerteen move into Kismaayo now not from Siwaaqroon or Cali Saleeban, but Maxamuud saleeban. in 1969 the Kacaan government took control of Kismaayo and Kismaayo saw real developmet as well as the rest of Jubaland. in 1991 it became a darood save heaven during USC vs SNF war since then different Darood subclans have fought for it because one clan the Harti is too minor and irrelevant to broker a deal with, another Ogaden is too dumb and deluded, while Marehan is the only one who is looking for a solution.

Even in your post you lie about the actual figuires of Marehan population, you lie about the history of the city etc.

[Xildiiid]

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There’s not a single Dofaar Ismaciil clan in Jamaame district nor Jilib district.

Dadkani indho adakaa, ma dhillaa?

Bu’aale is majority Gosha with some Raxanweyn and few Dir. My uncle was a soldier stationed there in the 70’s and they all spoke Af May.

He knows Cagdheer very well since he grew up in Hawd and he would’ve told me that they were living there (if they did) but they don’t.

There’s a reason why the entire Middle Jubba is in the hand of a Dir AS Amiir with most of the footsoldiers being primarily from the indigenous Jareerweyne followed by Raxanweyn.

Afweyne resettled his kin in other people’s land but Afweyne is not here today to reinforce that decision by using the state hence your appeal to KDF for protection but even they won’t die for your attempt to steal other people’s land.

the mayor of bu'aale is a reer isaaq reer cali man, and before that was auliyahan reer afwaax guy.

Mayors that don’t even live in the town.

Dofaar Ismaciil modus operandi 101.. it’s like Pussyland and their Dh!llo like indho adeygnimo when they named a mayor for Ceerigaabo. They’re trying to claim a town built by Iidoor even though they can’t set foot in it.

Only once has the town been contested and that was when Afweyne tried to uproot us in order to resettle his homeless Dofaar Ismaciil kin but we all know how that ended. This Pussyland mayor is living in Bumsaaso lmao.

Once your Kenyan overlords leave we’ll see the fate of your Dofaarood clan.

Boon Marexaar,

The only reason why Jamaame had 2-3 Dofaar Ismaciil living there during colonialism is because of the slave like mentality of the Dofarood.

Biimaal are the same ones that defeated Italian troops in numerous battles throughout Lower Shabeelle and the Jubba Valley. During those years they were also trying squash an uprising from their former Bantu slaves lead by Nasiib Buundo.

[balwarama]

War gaalkan isaga maxaa kagalay qabiilooyin Muslim ah!!!

[Adali]

^
There’s not a single Dofaar Ismaciil clan in Jamaame district nor Jilib district.

Dadkani indho adakaa, ma dhillaa?

Bu’aale is majority Gosha with some Raxanweyn and few Dir. My uncle was a soldier stationed there in the 70’s and they all spoke Af May.

He knows Cagdheer very well since he grew up in Hawd and he would’ve told me that they were living there (if they did) but they don’t.

There’s a reason why the entire Middle Jubba is in the hand of a Dir AS Amiir with most of the footsoldiers being primarily from the indigenous Jareerweyne followed by Raxanweyn.

Afweyne resettled his kin in other people’s land but Afweyne is not here today to reinforce that decision by using the state hence your appeal to KDF for protection but even they won’t die for your attempt to steal other people’s land.

the mayor of bu'aale is a reer isaaq reer cali man, and before that was auliyahan reer afwaax guy.

Mayors that don’t even live in the town.

Dofaar Ismaciil modus operandi 101.. it’s like Pussyland and their Dh!llo like indho adeygnimo when they named a mayor for Ceerigaabo. They’re trying to claim a town built by Iidoor even though they can’t set foot in it.

Only once has the town been contested and that was when Afweyne tried to uproot us in order to resettle his homeless Dofaar Ismaciil kin but we all know how that ended. This Pussyland mayor is living in Bumsaaso lmao.

Once your Kenyan overlords leave we’ll see the fate of your Dofaarood clan.

Boon Marexaar,

The only reason why Jamaame had 2-3 Dofaar Ismaciil living there during colonialism is because of the slave like mentality of the Dofarood.

Biimaal are the same ones that defeated Italian troops in numerous battles throughout Lower Shabeelle and the Jubba Valley. During those years they were also trying squash an uprising from their former Bantu slaves lead by Nasiib Buundo.

2-3 ? more like hundreds, and that was 100 years ago, now Jamaame has large Darood community, forget about yoontoy and goobweyn that is 100% darood thanks to Mareexaan, if you take out Jilib pretty much the rest of Jubaland is Darood with few minorities from various clan living with us.

[metamorphosis]

switzerland maxaa inaga galay bisinka iyo yasinka.

Yes xaqdarada you are doing against Mareexaan is unacceptable, you are stealing our land, killing our jareer workers and trying to do "ku qabso ku qadi maysid" it will not work, you are endangering the future of Jubaland with your doqonimo.

You sited 100 year old picture as justification for your naked land grabbing in 2018, what logic are you using doqon yahow ?

it is reaching a breaking point, beesha barakaysan can no longer sit by while you shitting on Jubaland future while simultaneously stealing our land.

Jareer might not be darood but they are our muslim brothers, and so far you have killed 26 Jareers in Kismaayo for no other reason than working for Marehan on land which you dispute ownership of, it is funny that this so called Wadaad Umul is trying to build on stolen land.

In constrast Beesha Barakaysan wadaado do not do this, just look at this Marehan wadaad giving justice to a Jareer worker whose brother was killed in Goldogob.

Kismayo gormaad yeelateen? answer that and do not deflect.
beesha barakaysan barakada baa laga qaadan if they don't shut the fuck up waryaa. tuugnimo aad geed loogu gaban baad meesha ka wadaan. I can't believe we are discussing marehan and kismayo, something that became a topic in our lifetime. waa yaab.

Kismaayo was never a single clan city, it was a tiny village and British outpost inhabited by different clans who live in Jubaland, then it became Italian in 1925 and saw development and population growth from two clans mainly Harti and Marehan from Italian Somaliland up north and central regions, roughly 2 decades of italian rule made an impression on the city and it became Harti dominated but as perusal Marehan were next in line and there was even neighbouring Rer Dalal mayor of Jamaame, after world war 2 and defeat of italy, it came under british military control and once again the british as they do never developed anything in Kismaayo. 1950 it came under the UN and the period from 1960-1969 we saw even more Majerteen move into Kismaayo now not from Siwaaqroon or Cali Saleeban, but Maxamuud saleeban. in 1969 the Kacaan government took control of Kismaayo and Kismaayo saw real developmet as well as the rest of Jubaland. in 1991 it became a darood save heaven during USC vs SNF war since then different Darood subclans have fought for it because one clan the Harti is too minor and irrelevant to broker a deal with, another Ogaden is too dumb and deluded, while Marehan is the only one who is looking for a solution.

Even in your post you lie about the actual figuires of Marehan population, you lie about the history of the city etc.

I can post my wishes too, do you have any evidence of anything you said?

"Jubaland, according to the Addis Ababa Agreement, incorporates Gedo, and the Middle and Lower Juba regions. Up to 1975 the area consisted of two regions, Lower and Upper Juba. In 1975 these were carved into Middle and Lower Juba, Gedo, Bai and Bakool. This move was considered to be politically motivated by Siad Barre, who created Gedo as a Marehan region, including Bardheere town. Under the Addis Ababa agreement, these regions remain in place, so that 'Jubaland' refers to the whole of the area between the Juba river and the Kenyan border."

u didn't even have gedo before 1975 lmao, how the hell can you claim kismaayo?


". Frequent land disputes between the Majeerteen and the Ogadenis took place in the early part of this century. In one famous battle some 80 Harti were killed. The Ogadenis refer to the area of the battle as 'lafara ha tiga' ('the bones of Harti'), while the Harti refer to it as 'lafara ha rage' ('the bones of men'). "


"At the time when Kismayo was ceded to Italy, the British are said to have enforced an agreement between the Harti and Ogadenis. According to the Ogaden, the agreement found in favour of the Ogadenis, giving their Sultan Ahmed Magan overall authority in Jubaland. This has now passed to his grandson Sultan Abdi Ali 'Songkor'. According to the Harti, the agreements stipulated that the Ogaden (mainly Mohamed Zubeir) should stay north of what is now the Liboi-Kismayo road, while the area south of this remained under the control of the Harti. By this agreement the Mohamed Zubeir Ogaden were also given access to the port.21"

"The
Ogaden also retaliated against collaborating clans such as the Herti clans in order to replenish
their depleted stock and also to regain lost credibility hefore other clans. The HeftI chillS
came from the Hobbio in the north eastern region of Italian Somaliland to the lubaland coast
as traders in 1896 with the establishment of British East Africa Protectorate administration
in Kismayu. It was an attack and counter-attacking drama that was played out between the
Ogaden and the British administrative forces until the British handed over lubaland to the
Italians in 1927."

here is a photo of the british making peace between MZ and harti



and finally
"it must he noted that Kismayu at this time was a small village frequented by Ogaden Somalis"


sxb, don't embarrass yourself any further. Hartis have more claim to kismayo more than marehan. History doesn't mention your kin with kismaayo, you didn't have gedo before 1975. Homeless baad ahay sxb. MSB had to carve up gedo for you lot, and then you came to kismaayo on the backs of cayr for 8 years and you were kicked out, NOT BY KENYA but by OGS. Kenya ku marmarsiyoow, marehan will never rule kismayo again.

internetyada ka xamaalo, internetyada ka dagaalan, ka dhaaro bal hadaad sidaa wax ku helayso.

[Adali]

In 2018 Kismaayo is between Ogadeen and Harti miyaa marka sheekada, dee waa la arki, I could careless what your slave master said, Cawlyahan and Marehan do not give two shits about colonial bastards and their agreements.

But I find it funny you calling me homeless don't you think that tittle fits those that are extradited to ethiopia, how high is the count of cagdheer extradited from Somalia ?

[GuleedWarsame]

Jubbaland is diverse in clan to claim its only Darood is wrong. Big populations belong to Raxanweyn, Jareerweyn, Dir, We need to collectively outgrow this aniga leh mentality.