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Advo wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:40 am It’s complicated my guy even if issaqs let go of their secession dreams and negotiate with the rest of Somalia a decade from now, things won’t return to the way it use to be.

I believe Somaliland will be a country within a country (Somalia), the issaqs will still fly their flag, have their army, government etc but things like currency, navy, resources will be shared. I say this because as Somalia continues to make progress and build every insitution from ground up, Issaqs will have two options, join other Waqooyi tribes like Gedabursi and Dblock/Warsangali who made the move earlier in making a deal with SFG or continue to self isolate themselves pushing for independence.


This all depends on if we get our sh!t together first, defeat alshabaab dogs, make the economy strong, build the national army etc. If Bombs are still going off in mugadisho, if the federal states are still not on the same page, if shabaab still causing trouble a decade from now, then Somalia is a lost cause and Somaliland will get the recognition.
The delusion is strong with this one. Dadkan afkooda iyo dhegahoodu miyayna is maqlayns. Keep saying that for another 30 years :snoop:
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Waachis wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:22 pm
AwRastaale wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:11 pm Waachis

It’s not hypocrisy. We are guarding our interests and we will force both Ogaden and nomads and few Muslim Oromo under Ethiopia.

There is no way out.

Ethiopia’s unity is sacred.

Oromo can support Somalia if they want but we will just kick them out from Somaliland while Addis Ababa applies internal pressures.

You have no choice.
Isaaq can't force anything on Ethiopians anyway and If guarding your interests makes you a hypocrite, it still makes you a hypocrite, regardless of how you phrase it, or attempt, to justify it.
Luckily your opinion and that of the isaaq has no relevance in oromia. The oromo alone will decide their fate. If the majority want an United Ethiopia, so be it, if not, so be it. That's in accordance with international law as well, besides being morally correct and justified.
You can't make money in Ethiopia if the oromo boycott the economy, that's where most of the money is made, oromia.
this individual does not speak for isaaqs other than himself, so keep that in mind.

what ever oromo people decide is up to them, somaliland has no intention in interfering with internal Ethiopian conflict.
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Advo wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:54 am Whether Somaliland was a country for few hours 60 years ago is irrelevant. That’s all water under bridge. You’re saying I’m entertaining wishesful thinking but u are the one stuck on nostalgia.

The facts on the ground currently is the region is still internationally unrecognized. Somalia is slowly but gradually improving. Somaliland can not survive on self imposed isolation for another few decades specially if Somalia becomes stable and economical sound.
LOOOOOOOL. So Somalia = good. Somaliland = a shithole?

Ileen people only see what they want to see. Iska wado sheekada sxb. AMISOMALIA is amazing. The best place in the world.
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X.Playa wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:31 pm
AwRastaale wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:11 pm Waachis

It’s not hypocrisy. We are guarding our interests and we will force both Ogaden and nomads and few Muslim Oromo under Ethiopia.

There is no way out.

Ethiopia’s unity is sacred.

Oromo can support Somalia if they want but we will just kick them out from Somaliland while Addis Ababa applies internal pressures.

You have no choice.
Why claim Isaaq? We have already discussed your origin in Isaaq Private Group and 99% Isaaq have agreed you are an Amxaara bastard with Isaaq mother.
If he's confirmed to be amxaar and not a Tumaal,then the guy is a true legend .Hats off to this Axmaar,he first intoxicated the minds then conquered the hearts of the Eyduur simpletons in Somnet with his propaganda.Xplaya is apparently trying hard to resist the Amxaar propaganda but deep down in his Buddhist heart,he concurs everything the Amxaar preaches :steviej:

Divide and rule at its best but fellow iidoors are too dumb and arrogant to give up their never-coming ictraaf and to accept their Somalinimo.
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BestPlaya wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:42 pm
X.Playa wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:31 pm
AwRastaale wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:11 pm Waachis

It’s not hypocrisy. We are guarding our interests and we will force both Ogaden and nomads and few Muslim Oromo under Ethiopia.

There is no way out.

Ethiopia’s unity is sacred.

Oromo can support Somalia if they want but we will just kick them out from Somaliland while Addis Ababa applies internal pressures.

You have no choice.
Why claim Isaaq? We have already discussed your origin in Isaaq Private Group and 99% Isaaq have agreed you are an Amxaara bastard with Isaaq mother.
If he's confirmed to be amxaar and not a Tumaal,then the guy is a true legend .Hats off to this Axmaar,he first intoxicated the minds then conquered the hearts of the Eyduur simpletons in Somnet with his propaganda.Xplaya is apparently trying hard to resist the Amxaar propaganda but deep down in his Buddhist heart,he concurs everything the Amxaar preaches :steviej:

Divide and rule at its best but fellow iidoors are too dumb and arrogant to give up their never-coming ictraaf and to accept their Somalinimo.
I don't have a problem with Amxaara ah people in fact I admire their subjugation of your people ever since Ras Mekenus begaan to breed his ogaadeen concubines back in 1887.

A century and quarter later his ogaadeen bastards are now as obedient as a whore in season.

Great people indeed. Problem is both your Ogaadeen and Aw Rastaale worship the same Amxaara that continuously have been ejaculating on both of your mouths. Its a bizarre thing.
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X.Playa wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:02 pm
BestPlaya wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:42 pm
X.Playa wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:31 pm

Why claim Isaaq? We have already discussed your origin in Isaaq Private Group and 99% Isaaq have agreed you are an Amxaara bastard with Isaaq mother.
If he's confirmed to be amxaar and not a Tumaal,then the guy is a true legend .Hats off to this Axmaar,he first intoxicated the minds then conquered the hearts of the Eyduur simpletons in Somnet with his propaganda.Xplaya is apparently trying hard to resist the Amxaar propaganda but deep down in his Buddhist heart,he concurs everything the Amxaar preaches :steviej:

Divide and rule at its best but fellow iidoors are too dumb and arrogant to give up their never-coming ictraaf and to accept their Somalinimo.
I don't have a problem with Amxaara ah people in fact I admire their subjugation of your people ever since Ras Mekenus begaan to breed his ogaadeen concubines back in 1887.

A century and quarter later his ogaadeen bastards are now as obedient as a whore in season.

Great people indeed. Problem is both your Ogaadeen and Aw Rastaale worship the same Amxaara that continuously have been ejaculating on both of your mouths. Its a bizarre thing.
Awrstale tells the hard truth about ethio-Somaliland relationship. He don't hide the fact that Somaliland is nothing but just another kilil or a Habesha Satellite state .Wadan waligiin noqon maysan.there's only two options:
1.U accept Ethiopian rule(like you're doing it now)
2.Or u accept Somalia

Iidoor political elites like Ras Hawdian learnt the bitter truth and accepted covert Haabesha rule over Mogadishu and Somalia.Be a man like ras hawdian and accept your fate .Somaliland is unofficial kilil of Ethiopia :steviej:

Ethiopia hosts lots of iidoor women but l don't want badmouth them however, we massacred Habaryonis in Gaashamo and Xaliimo Dubad ,we also weakened your presence in the hawd but your superhero govt didn't even condemned it let alone retaliating .Eyduur are very weak in Ethiopia and their beloved iidoorsitan is ruled from Ethiopia, a fact all delusional iidoors deny except The Ras Hawdian who openly embrace his habesha masters
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Waachis, seems like the Oromos and Southern Somalis have the same mindset, no wonder one is occupied BY AMISOM and the Other Tigray Masters.

Listen and understand what the Isaaq members are saying, you can't argue with us, no more.
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BestPlaya wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:19 pm
X.Playa wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:02 pm
BestPlaya wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:42 pm

If he's confirmed to be amxaar and not a Tumaal,then the guy is a true legend .Hats off to this Axmaar,he first intoxicated the minds then conquered the hearts of the Eyduur simpletons in Somnet with his propaganda.Xplaya is apparently trying hard to resist the Amxaar propaganda but deep down in his Buddhist heart,he concurs everything the Amxaar preaches :steviej:

Divide and rule at its best but fellow iidoors are too dumb and arrogant to give up their never-coming ictraaf and to accept their Somalinimo.
I don't have a problem with Amxaara ah people in fact I admire their subjugation of your people ever since Ras Mekenus begaan to breed his ogaadeen concubines back in 1887.

A century and quarter later his ogaadeen bastards are now as obedient as a whore in season.

Great people indeed. Problem is both your Ogaadeen and Aw Rastaale worship the same Amxaara that continuously have been ejaculating on both of your mouths. Its a bizarre thing.
Awrstale tells the hard truth about ethio-Somaliland relationship. He don't hide the fact that Somaliland is nothing but just another kilil or a Habesha Satellite state .Wadan waligiin noqon maysan.there's only two options:
1.U accept Ethiopian rule(like you're doing it now)
2.Or u accept Somalia

Iidoor political elites like Ras Hawdian learnt the bitter truth and accepted covert Haabesha rule over Mogadishu and Somalia.Be a man like ras hawdian and accept your fate .Somaliland is unofficial kilil of Ethiopia :steviej:

Ethiopia hosts lots of iidoor women but l don't want badmouth them however, we massacred Habaryonis in Gaashamo and Xaliimo Dubad ,we also weakened your presence in the hawd but your superhero govt didn't even condemned it let alone retaliating .Eyduur are very weak in Ethiopia and their beloved iidoorsitan is ruled from Ethiopia, a fact all delusional iidoors deny except The Ras Hawdian who openly embrace his habesha masters

Aw Amxaara is neither a Ras nor even a person worth his words. He is a little kid infatuated with the so called Amhara myth of the solomonic dynasty.

Ras is an old feudal Amhara title? How an alleged Isxaaq who genealogically a HY yet live among the ciidagale sultanate as a horse groomer claim to be an Amxaara feudal lord with the title of Ras is a childish joke, he isn't even considered as equal by his own adopted ciidagale langaab chieftain never mind been a Ras.

Reality is Somaliland is the strongest entity of what used to be called the Somali republic. Somalia the former Italian shit hole is still the same old shit hole. SL has the strongest army, the strongest political cohesion and the strongest institutions of any Somali entity today.

While you are nothing but a minor clan colonized by Tigre in the Somali region.

In NFD and Jubland you are colonized by the Kikuyo. You are the classical subjugated tribe.

You claim to have power? What power when you are sitting on another man's ceeb. You don't even have the muscle power to close your own anus once your Kikuyo and Tigre masters want to penetrate you.

But then you are Daarood ma xishoode ma khajile. If I were you I would have avoided all manly gathering till I liberate myself.
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Darood will be Ethiopian slaves whether tigray oromo amhara or gurage rules them. Our policy with Ethiopia doesnt change we support all kilils in Ethiopia. And we have an embassy in Addis Ababa. The xabashi slavez WE dont hate them I hope They learn geez and respect the orthodox church of lady Mary zion. No need to fight for independence just lick the boots of oromos or amharas which one you prefer or tegaru

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KingWaslawi wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:31 pm Waachis, seems like the Oromos and Southern Somalis have the same mindset, no wonder one is occupied BY AMISOM and the Other Tigray Masters.

Listen and understand what the Isaaq members are saying, you can't argue with us, no more.
Its not him, its Aw Amxaara bad mouthing Oromo riding his delusional Amhara horse. Aw Amxaara who claims to be an Isaaq/Amxaara Ras is egging waachis to bad mouth Isaaq.
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X.Playa wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:35 pm
BestPlaya wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:19 pm
X.Playa wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:02 pm

I don't have a problem with Amxaara ah people in fact I admire their subjugation of your people ever since Ras Mekenus begaan to breed his ogaadeen concubines back in 1887.

A century and quarter later his ogaadeen bastards are now as obedient as a whore in season.

Great people indeed. Problem is both your Ogaadeen and Aw Rastaale worship the same Amxaara that continuously have been ejaculating on both of your mouths. Its a bizarre thing.
Awrstale tells the hard truth about ethio-Somaliland relationship. He don't hide the fact that Somaliland is nothing but just another kilil or a Habesha Satellite state .Wadan waligiin noqon maysan.there's only two options:
1.U accept Ethiopian rule(like you're doing it now)
2.Or u accept Somalia

Iidoor political elites like Ras Hawdian learnt the bitter truth and accepted covert Haabesha rule over Mogadishu and Somalia.Be a man like ras hawdian and accept your fate .Somaliland is unofficial kilil of Ethiopia :steviej:

Ethiopia hosts lots of iidoor women but l don't want badmouth them however, we massacred Habaryonis in Gaashamo and Xaliimo Dubad ,we also weakened your presence in the hawd but your superhero govt didn't even condemned it let alone retaliating .Eyduur are very weak in Ethiopia and their beloved iidoorsitan is ruled from Ethiopia, a fact all delusional iidoors deny except The Ras Hawdian who openly embrace his habesha masters

Aw Amxaara is neither a Ras nor even a person worth his words. He is a little kid infatuated with the so called Amhara myth of the solomonic dynasty.

Ras is an old feudal Amhara title? How an alleged Isxaaq who genealogically a HY yet live among the ciidagale sultanate as a horse groomer claim to be an Amxaara feudal lord with the title of Ras is a childish joke, he isn't even considered as equal by his own adopted ciidagale langaab chieftain never mind been a Ras.

Reality is Somaliland is the strongest entity of what used to be called the Somali republic. Somalia the former Italian shit hole is still the same old shit hole. SL has the strongest army, the strongest political cohesion and the strongest institutions of any Somali entity today.

While you are nothing but a minor clan colonized by Tigre in the Somali region.

In NFD and Jubland you are colonized by the Kikuyo. You are the classical subjugated tribe.

You claim to have power? What power when you are sitting on another man's ceeb. You don't even have the muscle power to close your own anus once your Kikuyo and Tigre masters want to penetrate you.

But then you are Daarood ma xishoode ma khajile. If I were you I would have avoided all manly gathering till I liberate myself.
Ras Hawdian understood the game.He understood with heart of hearts that Somaliland is destined to be an Ethiopian Kilil and according to him the Berbera deal will only intensity The sociopolitical integration of Ethiopia and ethioSomaliland.His dream is to have
isaaq millionaires in Gurage and Gojjam :steviej: (not in Somaliland and DDSI).

Ogaden is not a minor clan .we are 2× larger than Duriyada :lol:.And if I'm colonised in Ethiopia then,l do also colonise and Marginalize Habar Yonis in the same country.


Ogaden have SOMALI REGION, JUBALAND ,NFD .Iidoor af-dhogor has Somaliland (covertly run by Tplf) .that's how it is Alcoholic monk :up:
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BestPlaya wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:05 pm
X.Playa wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:35 pm
BestPlaya wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:19 pm

Awrstale tells the hard truth about ethio-Somaliland relationship. He don't hide the fact that Somaliland is nothing but just another kilil or a Habesha Satellite state .Wadan waligiin noqon maysan.there's only two options:
1.U accept Ethiopian rule(like you're doing it now)
2.Or u accept Somalia

Iidoor political elites like Ras Hawdian learnt the bitter truth and accepted covert Haabesha rule over Mogadishu and Somalia.Be a man like ras hawdian and accept your fate .Somaliland is unofficial kilil of Ethiopia :steviej:

Ethiopia hosts lots of iidoor women but l don't want badmouth them however, we massacred Habaryonis in Gaashamo and Xaliimo Dubad ,we also weakened your presence in the hawd but your superhero govt didn't even condemned it let alone retaliating .Eyduur are very weak in Ethiopia and their beloved iidoorsitan is ruled from Ethiopia, a fact all delusional iidoors deny except The Ras Hawdian who openly embrace his habesha masters

Aw Amxaara is neither a Ras nor even a person worth his words. He is a little kid infatuated with the so called Amhara myth of the solomonic dynasty.

Ras is an old feudal Amhara title? How an alleged Isxaaq who genealogically a HY yet live among the ciidagale sultanate as a horse groomer claim to be an Amxaara feudal lord with the title of Ras is a childish joke, he isn't even considered as equal by his own adopted ciidagale langaab chieftain never mind been a Ras.

Reality is Somaliland is the strongest entity of what used to be called the Somali republic. Somalia the former Italian shit hole is still the same old shit hole. SL has the strongest army, the strongest political cohesion and the strongest institutions of any Somali entity today.

While you are nothing but a minor clan colonized by Tigre in the Somali region.

In NFD and Jubland you are colonized by the Kikuyo. You are the classical subjugated tribe.

You claim to have power? What power when you are sitting on another man's ceeb. You don't even have the muscle power to close your own anus once your Kikuyo and Tigre masters want to penetrate you.

But then you are Daarood ma xishoode ma khajile. If I were you I would have avoided all manly gathering till I liberate myself.
Ras Hawdian understood the game.He understood with heart of hearts that Somaliland is destined to be an Ethiopian Kilil and according to him the Berbera deal will only intensity The sociopolitical integration of Ethiopia and ethioSomaliland.His dream is to have
isaaq millionaires in Gurage and Gojjam :steviej: (not in Somaliland and DDSI).

Ogaden is not a minor clan .we are 2× larger than Duriyada :lol:.And if I'm colonised in Ethiopia then,l do also colonise and Marginalize Habar Yonis in the same country.


Ogaden have SOMALI REGION, JUBALAND ,NFD .Iidoor af-dhogor has Somaliland (covertly run by Tplf) .that's how it is Alcoholic monk :up:
Enough hiding behind this Amxaara wanna bee nobody.

Ogaden are a small daarood sub clan that is scattered like the accursed gypsies of Europe. They are in all the regions you mentioned so are the Midgans, Yibiris, Sheekhaal and Tumaals.

The only difference between you and the afore mentioned bottom feeders is that you have perfected the art of political prostitution and opportunism. You sit on Habesha ceeb like a brooding chicken positioning her behind on her eggs and yet claim to be the master of the universe.
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X.Playa wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:11 pm
BestPlaya wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:05 pm
X.Playa wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:35 pm


Aw Amxaara is neither a Ras nor even a person worth his words. He is a little kid infatuated with the so called Amhara myth of the solomonic dynasty.

Ras is an old feudal Amhara title? How an alleged Isxaaq who genealogically a HY yet live among the ciidagale sultanate as a horse groomer claim to be an Amxaara feudal lord with the title of Ras is a childish joke, he isn't even considered as equal by his own adopted ciidagale langaab chieftain never mind been a Ras.

Reality is Somaliland is the strongest entity of what used to be called the Somali republic. Somalia the former Italian shit hole is still the same old shit hole. SL has the strongest army, the strongest political cohesion and the strongest institutions of any Somali entity today.

While you are nothing but a minor clan colonized by Tigre in the Somali region.

In NFD and Jubland you are colonized by the Kikuyo. You are the classical subjugated tribe.

You claim to have power? What power when you are sitting on another man's ceeb. You don't even have the muscle power to close your own anus once your Kikuyo and Tigre masters want to penetrate you.

But then you are Daarood ma xishoode ma khajile. If I were you I would have avoided all manly gathering till I liberate myself.
Ras Hawdian understood the game.He understood with heart of hearts that Somaliland is destined to be an Ethiopian Kilil and according to him the Berbera deal will only intensity The sociopolitical integration of Ethiopia and ethioSomaliland.His dream is to have
isaaq millionaires in Gurage and Gojjam :steviej: (not in Somaliland and DDSI).

Ogaden is not a minor clan .we are 2× larger than Duriyada :lol:.And if I'm colonised in Ethiopia then,l do also colonise and Marginalize Habar Yonis in the same country.


Ogaden have SOMALI REGION, JUBALAND ,NFD .Iidoor af-dhogor has Somaliland (covertly run by Tplf) .that's how it is Alcoholic monk :up:
Enough hiding behind this Amxaara wanna bee nobody.

Ogaden are a small daarood sub clan that is scattered like the accursed gypsies of Europe. They are in all the regions you mentioned so are the Midgans, Yibiris, Sheekhaal and Tumaals.

The only difference between you and the afore mentioned is that you have perfected the art of political prostitution and opportunism. You sit on Habesha ceeb like a brooding chicken positioning her behind on her eggs and yet claim to be the master of the universe.
I enjoy when you lose an argument and then you resort to tantrums :steviej:

Forget about you distant cousins (the ignobles) ,Shiikhaal can't be compared to Ogaden though they are equally dispersed simply bcoz shiiikal are relatively small clan who don't dominate any region anywhere but we ,Ogadens dominate DDSI (9 out of the 11 provinces) ,NFD (2 out of the 3 Somali counties) and Jubaland (the two Jubbas)

Why do you object the Ras Hawdian ? The guy predicts a bigger economy to your Kilil (ethioSomaliland) .Somaliland is vessel/satellite state of Ethiopia. And we Ethiopians are very happy to welcome you as the newest kilil.We shall share your Berbera and thus,we shall all eat good .Forget about independence or reunion with Somalia ,Ethiopia is where your destiny lies :smugfavre:
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Shiikhaal can't be compared to Ogaden though they are equally dispersed simply bcoz shiiikal are relatively small clan who don't dominate any region anywhere but we ,Ogadens dominate DDSI (9 out of the 11 provinces) ,NFD (2 out of the 3 Somali counties) and Jubaland (the two Jubbas)
Not at all Ogaden only was given such position by the Tigre. In 1982-1986 the entire Ogadens were easily crushed by few Isaaq snm irregulars. Before that the Ogaden were also dominated and under the total hegemony of Habar Yoonis and ciidagale. During the independence campaign all Ogaden elders chose to be under the Amxaara rule and refused the great Somalia quest claiming it was an Isaaq scheme to subjugate them , it was the result of the historical trauma of total enslavement. Before that , the record is full of Habar Yoonis totally surmounting the Ogadens in all.

This is not my opinion this is a matter of record the chief scholar of Ethiopian studies and the foremost expert on Ethiopian history and politics the late Richard Pankhurst, ( son of Sylvia Pankhurst founder of The New Times in 1936 and Ethiopia , daughter of Emmeline Pankhurst the mother of the British suffragist movement which incidentally just this month is celebrated all over Britain for her 100 years anniversary of her women right to vote movement), Richard the foremost scholar of all Ethiopian studies who lived his entire life in Ethiopia since 1956, died in Ethiopia in 2017 , 61 years experience in Ethiopian history and politics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_P ... (academic)

In his literature dealing with the Somali conflict in particular the Daarood/Ogaden armed clan by Afweyne Vs the Isaaq SNM in Ethiopia , that the later have within few short months totally uprooted all vestige of this movement from all so called Ogaednia , a thing the Mingestu government failed to do. By 1984 all Ogadeens were in today Somaliland armed and supported by Afweyne to take revenge on the isaaq populations in Somaliland .

Problem with most of your Daaroods is that they believe in their kitchen chicken cackle gossip. History is well recorded and i have thousands of pages of it and i have yet to come across a single line stating your Daarood were anything other then what they are today , a minor clan that like a parasitic creeper plant live of the powers of others.
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X.Playa wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:08 pm
Shiikhaal can't be compared to Ogaden though they are equally dispersed simply bcoz shiiikal are relatively small clan who don't dominate any region anywhere but we ,Ogadens dominate DDSI (9 out of the 11 provinces) ,NFD (2 out of the 3 Somali counties) and Jubaland (the two Jubbas)
Not at all Ogaden only was given such position by the Tigre. In 1982-1986 the entire Ogadens were easily crushed by few Isaaq snm irregulars. Before that the Ogaden were also dominated and under the total hegemony of Habar Yoonis and ciidagale. During the independence campaign all Ogaden elders chose to be under the Amxaara rule and refused the great Somalia quest claiming it was an Isaaq scheme to subjugate them , it was the result of the historical trauma of total enslavement. Before that , the record is full of Habar Yoonis totally surmounting the Ogadens in all.

This is not my opinion this is a matter of record the chief scholar of Ethiopian studies and the foremost expert on Ethiopian history and politics the late Richard Pankhurst, ( son of Sylvia Pankhurst founder of The New Times in 1936 and Ethiopia , daughter of Emmeline Pankhurst the mother of the British suffragist movement which incidentally just this month is celebrated all over Britain for her 100 years anniversary of her women right to vote movement), Richard the foremost scholar of all Ethiopian studies who lived his entire life in Ethiopia since 1956, died in Ethiopia in 2017 , 61 years experience in Ethiopian history and politics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_P ... (academic)

In his literature dealing with the Somali conflict in particular the Daarood/Ogaden armed clan by Afweyne Vs the Isaaq SNM in Ethiopia , that the later have within few short months totally uprooted all vestige of this movement from all so called Ogaednia , a thing the Mingestu government failed to do. By 1984 all Ogadeens were in today Somaliland armed and supported by Afweyne to take revenge on the isaaq populations in Somaliland .

Problem with most of your Daaroods is that they believe in their kitchen chicken cackle gossip. History is well recorded and i have thousands of pages of it and i have yet to come across a single line stating your Daarood were anything other then what they are today , a minor clan that like a parasitic creeper plant live of the powers of others.
Diinta Buddhistiga miyaa faanka Ku bartay.Mise Pankhurst ayaa wadanka aan Ku dhashay kuna Soo koray ikala bari .cajiib!

My sub sub clan alone destroyed the entire Ciidagale+Arap+lsxaaq.l will post if you insist IIDOOR POETS CRYING OVER THE KARBAASH we gave them.the most respected ciidagale poets recorded well known Calaacal poems discussing how Cali and Harun destroyed them they will even show their powerless nature by crying to the feminine Saciido Muuse and HJ.

Forget about Ogaden iidoor wars .who dominates DDSI,NDF and Jubaland.

Tumaal waxaad tahay waagiisii hore Darood masakaxda ooga soo kaajay .You will also lose this debate .loser :pac:
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