Mudulood problem: The greed of Harti Abgaal
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Mudulood problem: The greed of Harti Abgaal
Hart Abgaal have chosen to let their greed and pure short term interest come before Mudulood interest and security. It is this greed and shortsightedness that will result in their future marginalisation within Mudulood and Hawiye politics.
Harti Abgaal should take lesson from Ceyr adventurism and greed and it results. For now, it seems that Maxamed Dheere is pushing a Harti Abgaal card within the socalled TFG, wanting to take advantage of it and share in its resources. It is not very different from the situation in Jowhar, where A-Yusuf is a powerless president on paper and real power lies with those that provide security and location. In the case of Jowhar it was Maxamed Dheere providing security and location and thus having the real power. In this current case: The tigre's provide security while Harti Abgaal provides both some form of security and the location: Mogadishu. Thus power lies primarily with the Tigre occupation force, while Harti Abgaal comes second.
This time it will either result in Maxamed Dheere's opportunism and short term interest in succeeding and thus keeping A-Yusuf a powerless figurehead in Mogadishu while the whole show of TFG is performed by Hart Abgaal....or it will go the same road as in Jowhar, were at the end: Maxamed Dheere will yell on the radio when A-Yusuf escapes from the grip Harti Abgaal has on him.
Either way, it is unwise for Mudulood clan to let the interest of one simple Mudulood subclan decide the the future of the whole Mudulood.
Clearly, majority of Harti Abgaal has accepted Tigre occupation and Northeastern presence in Mudulood territory for short term gains. In this they have commited two grave errors:
-putting their selfish clannish interest before Somali National Interest and Security: accepting Tigre occupation.
-putting their selfish clannish interest before the General Interest and Security of Hawiye: allying and accepting Northeastern Tigre lovers.
What should other Mudulood subclans do about this?
If we tolerate and accept this pursuit of selfish goals by one subclan which can endanger the long term interest and security of the whole clan, then there is something fundamentally wrong with our intellectual capacity.
One only has to look at the main protagonist within Harti Abgaal: Maxamed Dheere.
This man is a classic opportunist, during the time that the most dangerous enemy of Mudulood, Aideed created his Salbalaar government, Maxamed Dheere allied himself with him and thus succesfully became the Governor and Mayor of Mogadishu. This was back in 1995, when Aideed was nr1 enemy of Mudulood.
How can we expect this classic opportunist to decide the future of one Mudulood subclan let alone the whole of Mudulood?
Harti Abgaal should take lesson from Ceyr adventurism and greed and it results. For now, it seems that Maxamed Dheere is pushing a Harti Abgaal card within the socalled TFG, wanting to take advantage of it and share in its resources. It is not very different from the situation in Jowhar, where A-Yusuf is a powerless president on paper and real power lies with those that provide security and location. In the case of Jowhar it was Maxamed Dheere providing security and location and thus having the real power. In this current case: The tigre's provide security while Harti Abgaal provides both some form of security and the location: Mogadishu. Thus power lies primarily with the Tigre occupation force, while Harti Abgaal comes second.
This time it will either result in Maxamed Dheere's opportunism and short term interest in succeeding and thus keeping A-Yusuf a powerless figurehead in Mogadishu while the whole show of TFG is performed by Hart Abgaal....or it will go the same road as in Jowhar, were at the end: Maxamed Dheere will yell on the radio when A-Yusuf escapes from the grip Harti Abgaal has on him.
Either way, it is unwise for Mudulood clan to let the interest of one simple Mudulood subclan decide the the future of the whole Mudulood.
Clearly, majority of Harti Abgaal has accepted Tigre occupation and Northeastern presence in Mudulood territory for short term gains. In this they have commited two grave errors:
-putting their selfish clannish interest before Somali National Interest and Security: accepting Tigre occupation.
-putting their selfish clannish interest before the General Interest and Security of Hawiye: allying and accepting Northeastern Tigre lovers.
What should other Mudulood subclans do about this?
If we tolerate and accept this pursuit of selfish goals by one subclan which can endanger the long term interest and security of the whole clan, then there is something fundamentally wrong with our intellectual capacity.
One only has to look at the main protagonist within Harti Abgaal: Maxamed Dheere.
This man is a classic opportunist, during the time that the most dangerous enemy of Mudulood, Aideed created his Salbalaar government, Maxamed Dheere allied himself with him and thus succesfully became the Governor and Mayor of Mogadishu. This was back in 1995, when Aideed was nr1 enemy of Mudulood.
How can we expect this classic opportunist to decide the future of one Mudulood subclan let alone the whole of Mudulood?
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Re: Mudulood problem: The greed of Harti Abgaal
Slaughter them.
Anywayz,
Harti Abgaal are Darood. Why the hell do u think they always ally themselves with Darood ?
Anywayz,
Harti Abgaal are Darood. Why the hell do u think they always ally themselves with Darood ?
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Re: Mudulood problem: The greed of Harti Abgaal
you are all on the same level,lakiin i wonder how can you criticise others when you cnt see your won problems...... if you know what am saying.
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Re: Mudulood problem: The greed of Harti Abgaal
newboy,
what does your comment have to do with anything on this topic ?
what does your comment have to do with anything on this topic ?
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Re: Mudulood problem: The greed of Harti Abgaal
Hey am harti abgaal myself & i dont disagree with what you are saying
but once one have some sort of authority, he ignores the rest,
well it started with siyaad barre , (befor that our country potential for growth),
then comes Caydiid wanting to put sacad above anyone else, got their azz kicked by AYR and look history keep repeating itself!!
wahab252 you are one funny dude, sacads were claiming OG'S Last time i checked
but once one have some sort of authority, he ignores the rest,
well it started with siyaad barre , (befor that our country potential for growth),
then comes Caydiid wanting to put sacad above anyone else, got their azz kicked by AYR and look history keep repeating itself!!
wahab252 you are one funny dude, sacads were claiming OG'S Last time i checked
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Re: Mudulood problem: The greed of Harti Abgaal
DEMOLITION:
Yet Sacad always oppose Darood domination of Hawiye while Hawiye always work against us.
Its like in 1991, Ali Mahdi brought back the same Afweyne loyalists like Mohamed Abshiir that the USC had chased away.
You try to free a man from domination & subjugation but he fights you for trying to free him
The Hawiye without Sacad is like a man missing his brain.
SomaliWeyn,
Abdullahi Sheik Xasan, the Wacbudan is now part of the Harti Abgaal effort to restore the Darood domination of the Hawiye.
Yet Sacad always oppose Darood domination of Hawiye while Hawiye always work against us.
Its like in 1991, Ali Mahdi brought back the same Afweyne loyalists like Mohamed Abshiir that the USC had chased away.
You try to free a man from domination & subjugation but he fights you for trying to free him

The Hawiye without Sacad is like a man missing his brain.
SomaliWeyn,
Abdullahi Sheik Xasan, the Wacbudan is now part of the Harti Abgaal effort to restore the Darood domination of the Hawiye.
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Re: Mudulood problem: The greed of Harti Abgaal
Maxamed Dheere oo kulan xasaasi ah la yeeshay xubno ka tirsan Guddiga Dhaqanka iyo Siyaasadda ee Beelaha Hawiye ee ka soo horjeeday Siyaasadda Dowladda Federalka Somalia
Guddoomiyaha Maamulka Gobalka Banaadir, ahna Duqa Magaalladda Muqdishu, Md. Maxamed Cumar Xabeeb "Maxamed Dheere", waxa uu galabta kulan xasaasi ah la yeeshay Guddoomiyaha Guddiga Dhaqanka ee
Beelaha Hawiye, Xaaji Cabdi Iimaam Cumar iyo Siyaasiga C/llaahi Sheekh Xasan Cali oo ka mid ah Siyaasiyiinta qunyar-socodka ah ee naqdiya Siyaasadda DFKMGS.
http://www.somaliweyn.com/pages/news/Ju ... uly27.html
AXMED DIIRYE CALI: “Xaaji Cabid Iimaan waxaa uu ka tanaasulay halgankii halista ahaa ee uu soo galay ee uu xitaa xabsiga ku muteystay”
http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2007/july/w ... 9-1514.htm
This Harti Abgaal guy called Xaaji Cabid Iimaan makes a complete U-turn after one talk with Maxamed Dheere.
A clear example of the greed and shortsightedness of Harti Abgaal. Sacrificing everything for small gains
Guddoomiyaha Maamulka Gobalka Banaadir, ahna Duqa Magaalladda Muqdishu, Md. Maxamed Cumar Xabeeb "Maxamed Dheere", waxa uu galabta kulan xasaasi ah la yeeshay Guddoomiyaha Guddiga Dhaqanka ee
Beelaha Hawiye, Xaaji Cabdi Iimaam Cumar iyo Siyaasiga C/llaahi Sheekh Xasan Cali oo ka mid ah Siyaasiyiinta qunyar-socodka ah ee naqdiya Siyaasadda DFKMGS.
http://www.somaliweyn.com/pages/news/Ju ... uly27.html
AXMED DIIRYE CALI: “Xaaji Cabid Iimaan waxaa uu ka tanaasulay halgankii halista ahaa ee uu soo galay ee uu xitaa xabsiga ku muteystay”
http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2007/july/w ... 9-1514.htm
This Harti Abgaal guy called Xaaji Cabid Iimaan makes a complete U-turn after one talk with Maxamed Dheere.
A clear example of the greed and shortsightedness of Harti Abgaal. Sacrificing everything for small gains
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Re: Mudulood problem: The greed of Harti Abgaal
Abdiwahab,
You are blind when it comes to your own errors but when it comes to someone else´s errors u are the first to highlight them.
Clearly your hero Abdiqeybiid has failed to stop Bakaaraha from been looted. Word on the street is that the second largest market in Africa- Bacaad market is booming.
Go and handle the capital flight caused by your incompetent hero Abdiqeybdiid.
You are blind when it comes to your own errors but when it comes to someone else´s errors u are the first to highlight them.
Clearly your hero Abdiqeybiid has failed to stop Bakaaraha from been looted. Word on the street is that the second largest market in Africa- Bacaad market is booming.
Go and handle the capital flight caused by your incompetent hero Abdiqeybdiid.
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Re: Mudulood problem: The greed of Harti Abgaal
Mudane Cali Mahdi oo ka mid ahaa ergadii ka qayb galaysay shirka dib-u-heshiisiinta Soomaalida ee ka furmay 15/10/02 Magaalada Eldoret ee ku taal duleedka Magaalo madaxda dalka Kenya ee Nayroobi (Nairobi), shirkan oo ay ka soo wada qayb galeen guud ahaan qabqablayaaasha Soomaalida siiiba kuwii gacan saarka la lahaa Xabashida ee ku bahoobay Ururka la magac baxay SRRC-iida, Cali Mahdi ayaa markii shirku muddo socday isaga baxay oo isaga huleeelay goobtii shirku ka socday iyo guud ahaan Dalka Kenya, maruu faahfaahin ka bixinayey sababta ku keentay inuu isaga boxo shirka wuxuu ku dooday inaan shirka Soomaalidu u madax bannaanayn maamulkiisa usanna gacanta ugu jirin, isagoo eedda fara galinta shirka duasha uga tuuray Ururka IGAD, si toos ahna u sheegay inay fara galin cad ku hayso qaab socodka shirka Dawladda Xabashida, taas oo sida muuqata u cuntami waysay Cali Mahdi dabadeedna ku dhalisay inuu shirka qaadaco.
Mudane Cali Mahdi shirka uu qadoco oo kaliya kuma ekaysan balse wuxuu niyad xumo ka muujiyey natiijada iyo rajada uu yeelan karo shirkaas, balse waxbaa is bedelay sida muuqata, is bedelkii ka dhacay Dalka ee ku soo gashay Xabashidu Wadanka xoogga ka gadaal, waxaad mooddaa in mawqifkii Cali Mahdi wax weyn iska bedeleen, maxaa yeelay ugu horrayn wuxuu ku jiray xubno kulan kula qaatay Madax-weynaha Dawaldda Empagathi C/laahi yuusuf Degmada Afgooye, waa xilli ay Xabashidii uu uga soo carooday mija xaabinta shirka iyo maroqsiga maamulkiisa ay isku baahiyeen guud ahaan Dalka gaar ahaan dhex mushaaxayaan waddooyinka caasimadda Dalka ee Muqdisha, iyadoon Cali Mahdi laga hayn wax hadal uu ka yiri soo galidda Xabashida dalka diidmo iyo ogalaasho toona!.
Maalmo ka dib markii Mdax-weyne C/laahi culays ay ku saareen Dalalka reer galbeed inuu wada-hadal la furo dhaqdhaqaaqyada ka soo hor jeeda , wuxuu ka caddeeyey Magaalada Adis Ababa (Addis Ababa) ee xarunta Dalka Xabashida( Ethiopia) maruu ka qayb galayey shir madaxeedka Dallaka Afrika inuu qabanayo shir weyne Qaran ee dib-u-heshiisiineed oo la isugu keenayo ergo badan, shirkan oo muddo ahaan loo qabtay inuu furmay 17-ka bishan April ee foodda nagu soo haysa, waxaa shir gudoon loogu magacaabay Mudane Cali Mahdi Maxamed oo isagu aan marnaba shaki galin taxadarna aan ka muujin bal inuu diido ama ka caga jiido iska daaye!, haddaba su’aashu waxay tahay: Cali Mahdi ma Shaluu Qaldanaa mise Maanta ayuu Saxan yahay?! Micnaha ma shaluu qaldanaa oo manta ayuu dib u saxayaa qaladkiisii shalay? Maxaa yeelay sida aan soo sheegnay Cali Mahdi wuxuu shirkii Nayroobi (Nairobi) uga soo baxay ugana soo qalab qaatay inaysan Soomaalidu u madax bannaanayn hanaan socodka shirka ayna ku fara galinayso Dawladda Xabashidu, sidaas darteed waxay tahay su’aashu mar haddii ay shalay hawlahaaga kuu dhafi waysay maantooy ciidan kugu dhex joogto muxuu xaalku noqonayaa?! Ma madax banaanida ayaa sii yaraanaysa mise way sii koe dhaysaa?!
La yaabku wuxuu ka jiraa Cali Mahdi ma shalay markuu shirka ka soo baxayey ayuu saxnaa mise manta oo uu aqbalayey inuu shir guddoomiyo shir-weynaha ay Xabashida ilaalinayso?!, waxaa iska cad inuu muuqdo is bedel weyn oo ku yimid hanaanka uu Cali Mahdi ku saleeyey sayaasaddiisa shalay markii uu ka soo baxayey shirka, iyo maanta oo loo magacaabay inuu daadihoyo shir-weynaha nabadaynta, balse nimaad shalay ka waysay: war arimahayga iidaa oo faraha igala bax? Maanta oo uu xooga ballaaran kugu dul degan yahay miyuu kaa daynayaa fara galinta ama kuu dhaafayaa arimahaaga?!, jawaabta waa : maya ayaan filayaa, haddaba waan arki doonnaa hadduu qabsoomo shirka in shir-gudoomiye Cali Mahdi u madax bannaanaado soo xulidda ergooyinka ka qayb galaya shirka, qaab socodka shirka, ajandayaasha looga hadlayao, iyo guud ahaan dhaqdhaqaaqa shirka.
Sida iskaba cad Dawladda Empagathi asalba waxay ahayd Dawlad qabqablayaashu ay si weyn uga dhex muuqdeen dhammaan dagaal oogayaashii iyo gacan ku dhiiglayaashii gabod falka u gaystay Umadda Soomaaliyeed, iyadoo sidaa ay tahay haddana waxaa loo magacaabay guddoonka shir-weynaha dib-u-heshiisiinta ruug caddaagii qabqablayaasha oo ah Cali mahdi Maxamed, bal waa yaabe C/laahi Yuusuf ma wuxuu wayey qof nadiif ka ah dambi oon ka qayb qaadan dagaaladii sokeeye oo ka hufan daadinta dhiigga Soomaalida.
http://www.somalitalk.com/2007/apr/01apr2507.html
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Clearly the Harti Abgaals commiting the two grave errors are themselves aware of it, but obviously their projected short term gains and their underestimation of the long-term memory of Somalis have pushed them to continue with their erros.
Mudane Cali Mahdi shirka uu qadoco oo kaliya kuma ekaysan balse wuxuu niyad xumo ka muujiyey natiijada iyo rajada uu yeelan karo shirkaas, balse waxbaa is bedelay sida muuqata, is bedelkii ka dhacay Dalka ee ku soo gashay Xabashidu Wadanka xoogga ka gadaal, waxaad mooddaa in mawqifkii Cali Mahdi wax weyn iska bedeleen, maxaa yeelay ugu horrayn wuxuu ku jiray xubno kulan kula qaatay Madax-weynaha Dawaldda Empagathi C/laahi yuusuf Degmada Afgooye, waa xilli ay Xabashidii uu uga soo carooday mija xaabinta shirka iyo maroqsiga maamulkiisa ay isku baahiyeen guud ahaan Dalka gaar ahaan dhex mushaaxayaan waddooyinka caasimadda Dalka ee Muqdisha, iyadoon Cali Mahdi laga hayn wax hadal uu ka yiri soo galidda Xabashida dalka diidmo iyo ogalaasho toona!.
Maalmo ka dib markii Mdax-weyne C/laahi culays ay ku saareen Dalalka reer galbeed inuu wada-hadal la furo dhaqdhaqaaqyada ka soo hor jeeda , wuxuu ka caddeeyey Magaalada Adis Ababa (Addis Ababa) ee xarunta Dalka Xabashida( Ethiopia) maruu ka qayb galayey shir madaxeedka Dallaka Afrika inuu qabanayo shir weyne Qaran ee dib-u-heshiisiineed oo la isugu keenayo ergo badan, shirkan oo muddo ahaan loo qabtay inuu furmay 17-ka bishan April ee foodda nagu soo haysa, waxaa shir gudoon loogu magacaabay Mudane Cali Mahdi Maxamed oo isagu aan marnaba shaki galin taxadarna aan ka muujin bal inuu diido ama ka caga jiido iska daaye!, haddaba su’aashu waxay tahay: Cali Mahdi ma Shaluu Qaldanaa mise Maanta ayuu Saxan yahay?! Micnaha ma shaluu qaldanaa oo manta ayuu dib u saxayaa qaladkiisii shalay? Maxaa yeelay sida aan soo sheegnay Cali Mahdi wuxuu shirkii Nayroobi (Nairobi) uga soo baxay ugana soo qalab qaatay inaysan Soomaalidu u madax bannaanayn hanaan socodka shirka ayna ku fara galinayso Dawladda Xabashidu, sidaas darteed waxay tahay su’aashu mar haddii ay shalay hawlahaaga kuu dhafi waysay maantooy ciidan kugu dhex joogto muxuu xaalku noqonayaa?! Ma madax banaanida ayaa sii yaraanaysa mise way sii koe dhaysaa?!
La yaabku wuxuu ka jiraa Cali Mahdi ma shalay markuu shirka ka soo baxayey ayuu saxnaa mise manta oo uu aqbalayey inuu shir guddoomiyo shir-weynaha ay Xabashida ilaalinayso?!, waxaa iska cad inuu muuqdo is bedel weyn oo ku yimid hanaanka uu Cali Mahdi ku saleeyey sayaasaddiisa shalay markii uu ka soo baxayey shirka, iyo maanta oo loo magacaabay inuu daadihoyo shir-weynaha nabadaynta, balse nimaad shalay ka waysay: war arimahayga iidaa oo faraha igala bax? Maanta oo uu xooga ballaaran kugu dul degan yahay miyuu kaa daynayaa fara galinta ama kuu dhaafayaa arimahaaga?!, jawaabta waa : maya ayaan filayaa, haddaba waan arki doonnaa hadduu qabsoomo shirka in shir-gudoomiye Cali Mahdi u madax bannaanaado soo xulidda ergooyinka ka qayb galaya shirka, qaab socodka shirka, ajandayaasha looga hadlayao, iyo guud ahaan dhaqdhaqaaqa shirka.
Sida iskaba cad Dawladda Empagathi asalba waxay ahayd Dawlad qabqablayaashu ay si weyn uga dhex muuqdeen dhammaan dagaal oogayaashii iyo gacan ku dhiiglayaashii gabod falka u gaystay Umadda Soomaaliyeed, iyadoo sidaa ay tahay haddana waxaa loo magacaabay guddoonka shir-weynaha dib-u-heshiisiinta ruug caddaagii qabqablayaasha oo ah Cali mahdi Maxamed, bal waa yaabe C/laahi Yuusuf ma wuxuu wayey qof nadiif ka ah dambi oon ka qayb qaadan dagaaladii sokeeye oo ka hufan daadinta dhiigga Soomaalida.
http://www.somalitalk.com/2007/apr/01apr2507.html
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Clearly the Harti Abgaals commiting the two grave errors are themselves aware of it, but obviously their projected short term gains and their underestimation of the long-term memory of Somalis have pushed them to continue with their erros.
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Re: Mudulood problem: The greed of Harti Abgaal
Somaliweyn,
Qeybdiid did his part to secure the Bakaraha but met stiff resistance from the HG.
However, the looting and destruction is being promoted by Maxamed Dheere who has stated publically that Bakaraha is a the centre of terror in Xamar.
Abgaal are pushing for a war with the HG. We will head back to 1991 very soon.
Qeybdiid did his part to secure the Bakaraha but met stiff resistance from the HG.
However, the looting and destruction is being promoted by Maxamed Dheere who has stated publically that Bakaraha is a the centre of terror in Xamar.
Abgaal are pushing for a war with the HG. We will head back to 1991 very soon.
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