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Any multi-clan city in Somalia?

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Since the Somali Revolution of 1991 which saw the overthrow of Darood occupation regime in Xamar, Somalis retreated to traditional clan degaans and where that wasn't palatable, created new ones. Daroods went back to Bari or fled to Southern regions around Kismaayo or Garbahaarey. Hawiye reclaimed their cities like Beledweyn, Xamar etc. Ditto for other clans. All major clans and subclans now claim entire cities as the exclusive domain of their clan. For the purpose of this discussion, a city of mixed clan would have a sizable representation of all major clans. So, is there any city in Somalia that can be aptly called mixed-clan city?
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None i can think of right now... One qabil will always dominate the other...
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Re: Any multi-clan city in Somalia?

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Ceerigabo


Gaalkacyo


Jamaame

Kismaayo
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The only one I can think of is Galkacyo which has Sacad, Majerten and Lelkasse. However you're right. For instance Bardhere in Gedo was a historically shared city between Raxanwein and Marehan, however the Raxanwein were expelled from there after the USC was kicked out of Gedo for supporting them. Kismayo's demographics have changed also with the city being about 95% Marehan. Thats another city that used to be multicultural but became a clan city. Same with Mogadishu which used to be multiclan but changed into a Hawiye bastion. Unfortunately this is what happned after the war. This is why a Gov't is needed to protect small clans defenseless clans from being abused and having their lands taken. The Biyamal in Shabeelaha hoose come to mind.
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[quote="cabdallah252"]Ceerigabo


Gaalkacyo


Jamaame[/quote]


The guy is asking about cities not towns.
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"Kismayo is 95% marehan." Laughing Laughing

Where do some people get their information from? Why did marehan need ceyr and others to control a city where they are 95% majority?
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Kismayo isn't 95% Mareexaan. Luq just wrote that to piss your people off and seems like it worked.

BTW if we "needed ceyr" to capture Kismayo wouldn't Kablalax have taken it back after the JVA was dissolved?
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[quote="Luq_Ganane"]For instance Bardhere in Gedo was a historically shared city between Raxanwein and Marehan, however the Raxanwein were expelled from there after the USC was kicked out of Gedo for supporting them[/quote]

Wow this guy really realizes that Gedo was shared with Rahanweyn. Its amazing most Mareehaan go no Gedo has always been Mareehaan Rahanweyn never owned their.

First off I am not Rahanweyne.

For Rahanweyn's defense they had to side with Aideed becaue well Mareehaan was massacring them, destroying their crops and causing mass starvation. Remember 1993.

Now they say that Rahanweyn were acting as a road block and allowing Aideed to kill the Mareehaan but what they fail to see is Baidoa and most of Bay during the civil war was captured by Omar Jees's forces and if I remember correctly they were Ogaden so Mareehaan you guys massacred the wrong guys.

And Aideedyou didn't help much cause you kinda did the same thing.

Oh yea and finally I think Rahanweyne are idiots for letting Baidoa be the seat of the TFG.

Majeerteen are pure mean for telling Leelkase that Gaalkacyo is only Majeerteen and Sacad and not their especially after they died more for it then the MJ's who were no where to be found when Aideed attacked.
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Ican the only Cayr in Kismayo during the JVA days were Goobale, Serar and their families. In addition, the purpose of the JVA was to provide the logistics for Marehan armies to cross from Galgudud and hostile Hawiye territories at the height of Darood-Hawiye beef. The ruling administration of the JVA was posted here many times. The JVA was fantastic. Marehan businessmen were in Suuqa Bakraha, and we had a stronghold in Kismayo and a hand in Xamar and business between the two was booming. I'm sorry to break it but Kismayo today is just a Marehan city as Bardhere or Beled Hawa if you want the truth. Laughing

Also I find it funny with how you guys keep mentioning Cayr. Its actually you guys who have the Cayr boogeyman mentality and would rather admit losing to Cayr than losing to Marehan out of your cuqdad. So the big bad Cayr pushed Marehan over the top, but if they wern't involoved you would have kicked our azzes right? So where were Cayr in the last two battles (If you actually call it a battle)? Admit it: Cuqdad and bitterness at Marehan defeats is what makes you guys keep mentioning Cayr because at the end of the day you would much rather say we were defeated by Cayr then to say Marehan defeated us, even though everything was made clear in June. Laughing
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Shirib

Theres some truth to what you wrote but to say Mareexaan were massacring digil and mirifle before they sided with Caydiid is completely false sxb.

xoolonimadooda maalinkeey "demandska" anaga noola imaanaayeen baan taagnaa, dee tii ka raacdayna soomaaloo dhan baa og.

waa runtaa cumar jees shacab badanoo Mareexaana buu laayay, laakiinse asna tan ka raacday kawaran?
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Shirib greed is a bich.

For one I never said Gedo was shared with Raxanwein but that Bardhere was. To understand Gedo geopgraphy lets use the Jubba river as an example. Everything EAST of the Jubba river is mostly Awlyahan (Ogaden), Raxanwein (Middle Jubba, Bay, Bakol). Everyhing WEST is Marehan (Gedo). However with Bardhere it was unique because the Jubba river divides the city in two and Raxanwein lived on the East side in East Bardhere: http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb5/ ... bridge.jpg

However when the civil war happened, Raxanwein got happy and said now we can expel Marehan from the city altogether. Big mistake. After the USC was taken care of, a campaign of destruction was carried out against them and the Raxanwein were forced from East Bardere and other little villages they may have had in Gedo. If they had remained neutral we would live peacefully with them the way we now do with Garre a noble clan that we share El Wak with. As for Marehan starving Raxanwein I'm not quite sure what you mean because it is public knowledge Caydid sitting on food aid that was destined to them, along with the border of Kenya being closed is what caused the human catastrophie and mass starvation in Baidoa.
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You guys take yourself too seriously, JVA was an alliance of ogaden, hawiye, and marehan. That's the simple truth. If you say marehan are majority in kismayo, what do you need the alliance for? As for the last battle, as much as you want to make it into 'kablalax' vs marehan. We all know it wasn't, it was afgadud acting on his own and a few of his militia's vs marehan.

Kismayo will change hands and will continue to change hands. I'd worry about the impoverished lands of gedo if I were you guys, kismayo belongs to intelligent business minded people.
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^^

Ican,

Gedo is home sxb. Bardhere, Beled Hawa are fast growing and basically built from stratch, culminating in a University and grand Mosuqe in the center of Bardhere. Time will tell what will happen in the future, however stay on the lookout for the council the ruling authority in Kismayo comprised of: Cawaramele, Ogaden, Sheikhal, and so many others with Marehan as the head to emerge as the governing body for Jubbaland State. Mr. Green
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Galinsoor. Smile
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