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war saas ma ahan. anigo nin xawaadle ah gaar ahan cali madaxwene give always credit to abe siad cause he was wadani and best president. sida kale i give credit to ceydiid cause he was wadani and anti xabashi even if he killed my people. but that dont mean i give credit to merehan or sacad. both were shaqsi so give credit to shaqsi only.

dadka xakooda sii. abe siad wasnt merehan first he was somali first. he didnt rule merehan he ruled umadda soomaliya oo dhan.

Hiiraan, thats what I'm trying to say.


Its like praising Gen Da'ud (aun), Aden Cadde (aun) etc. that I'm crediting Muloduud. Somalia was a QARAN, and the heros were from all qabils.

HiiraanBoy,

U are a young kid who doesn't know the nasty side of the Barre regime. Don't embarrass yourself by calling the exPresident "Aabe" or as the best Somali President considering he was the Somali President who started the Somali civil wars.

Luq,

Good afternoon ! I noticed how u did not refer to Aden Caade as Aabe Aden or AbdiRashid as Aabe AbdiRashid.

^^

and when do I refer to MSB as "Aaabo"? He's not my Father. He was the president of a nation and I refer to him as such. I just mention 'aun' as I would with any Muslim.

dee soo rasuulkii merexaanka maha

The only thing i dont understand is whenever you mention Sayid barre a thousand Marehan stick their heads out of no where expecting some sort of praise also just for being Marehan.... No one can deny that Sayid Barre (AUN) did a lot of good for the nation, he was wadani and he was better than this current President even in his worse days..

The problem arises when some Marehen over praise him to the extreme point, or they deny all his wrong doings, or things done under his watch.....

[quote="The_Emperior5"]dee soo rasuulkii merexaanka maha[/quote]


afkaada hayso doqonyaho.

The problem is, you have people who make Siyad Barre a Mareexaan president, and others who don't want to be left out make him a Daarood President. Yaa soo haray? Soomaalidii kale, do you think they will say anything favourable about him? I don't think so. Somalis need to learn one important thing, if anyone among them puts importance on his or her clan, THE REST WILL DO, and this is exactly why you can never find an impartial somali who does justice to all when dealing with somalis or speaking about their politics.

Also, there is more responsibility on those who are related to Siyad Barre, they need to show an example of what it means to be an outstanding somali citizen, avoid clan bigotry, and be fair to all somalis. Speaking honestly about the past shortcomings of Siyad Barre, Acknowledging Clanism, nepotism and somalis who abused their power lead to the devision and hatred. That is what destroyed Somali's UNITY and brotherhood. Also, Somalia was built by All somalis, our freedom was brought by men from all clans, therefore, acknowledging the contribution of those somalis by the Daaroods can help bridge gaps. They should stop supporting one another in faithlessness and bigotry honestly.

If you look at this forum, with the exception of few, many somalis who belong to different darod subclans have the same attitude. Is that a culture? something la isu dardaarmay? like people shouldn't think on their own and be the individuals they were born and meant to be?

Qof kastoo soomali ah qabiiluu leeyahay, if you put yours first, the rest will do the same, and the result is what Somalia looks like today, devided towns and people, ruled by men who don't care about anyone and who serve their own interests.

Somalis wouldn't let anyman be himself. His clansmen lay claim to his rule, his opponents want to oust him because they want to enrich themselves and do the same thing others before them did once in power. Both are driven by clan. This practice continues to this day. Any man who wants to rule somalis is either supported or opposed along clan lines, any group of somalis who want to bring a positive change are opposed if those who lead the organization come from a different clan. Decency is not the deciding factor for most somalis, what matters is what clan someone belongs to. The blame is on all somalis. You hardly see any honest individual when it comes to Somali problems.

It would have been better if somalis were taught by their parents to be impartial and that government is not the means to enrich your folks while others are deprived. There would be no competition for leadership based on clan sentiments if merit was the deciding factor in electing leaders.

criticism from Gamadid has to be considered b/c he doesn't have ulterior political objectives and you can have a conversation w/ him about pros/cons of previous governments.

if there are more trustworthy ppl like him in dialogue you can have more honest/trusthworthy discussions.

[quote="Luq_Ganane"][quote="The_Emperior5"]dee soo rasuulkii merexaanka maha[/quote]


afkaada hayso doqonyaho.[/quote]



ma been baan sheegay sxb

rasuul markaad luqada carabiga fiirisiidii waxa weyaan nin loo soo diiray
merexaan siyaad barre wa rasuul merexaan
rasuul means messenger waxay ka timid risaala

nabbi maxammad wa rasuulallah

[quote="Luq_Ganane"][quote="The_Emperior5"]dee soo rasuulkii merexaanka maha[/quote]


afkaada hayso doqonyaho.[/quote]


markaad af somaliga haad ku hadlaysiid adeer sii fican ugu hadal

waxa weyaan afkaaga hayso

maha afkaada hayso adeer ma Ethiopia baad ku korta mise ciyaal utanga baad ahayd

^^

Midhna ma ahayn.

[quote="Gedo_Boy"]criticism from Gamadid has to be considered b/c he doesn't have ulterior political objectives and you can have a conversation w/ him about pros/cons of previous governments.

if there are more trustworthy ppl like him in dialogue you can have more honest/trusthworthy discussions.[/quote]


He's a faker. Seems like he got over his severe depression after the destruction of the ICU.

Soomaalidu waa caruur waaridkeed ku caasiyoowday and as such are suffering for it.

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