venezuela said no dictatorship and communism senor chavez.

Daily chitchat.

Moderators: Moderators, Junior Moderators

Forum rules
This General Forum is for general discussions from daily chitchat to more serious discussions among Somalinet Forums members. Please do not use it as your Personal Message center (PM). If you want to contact a particular person or a group of people, please use the PM feature. If you want to contact the moderators, pls PM them. If you insist leaving a public message for the mods or other members, it will be deleted.
musika man
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 5661
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:05 am

venezuela said no dictatorship and communism senor chavez.

Post by musika man »

big ups to venez's rejecting dictatorship and communism by telling chavez dont touch our constitution. he wanted a short cut to fidel castro dictatorship. this dude is subsidising americans their gas bills and british pensioners for chavez paid free public transport to score a point. wasted venez's public money. i don't like communists like chavez and castro, they are like george bush, but the opposite. two extremes. both are not good for civil liberties and business.

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) - President Hugo Chavez suffered a stunning defeat Monday in a referendum that would have let him run for re-election indefinitely and impose a socialist system in this major U.S. oil provider.
Voters defeated the sweeping measures Sunday by a vote of 51 percent to 49 percent, said Tibisay Lucena, chief of the National Electoral Council, with voter turnout at just 56 percent.

She said that with 88 percent of the votes counted, the trend was irreversible.

Opposition supporters shouted with joy as Lucena announced the results on national television early Monday, their first victory against Chavez after nine years of electoral defeats.

Some broke down in tears. Others began chanting "And now he's going away!"

"This was a photo finish," Chavez told reporters at the presidential palace, adding that unlike past Venezuelan governments, his respects the people's will.

Exactly a year ago, Chavez won re-election with 63 percent of the vote.

"Don't feel sad," Chavez urged supporters, especially given the "microscopic differences" between the "yes" and "no" options in a referendum that opponents feared could have meant a plunge toward dictatorship.

Chavez's supporters said he would have used the reforms to deepen grass-roots democracy and more equitably spread Venezuela's oil wealth.

The changes would have created new forms of communal property, let Chavez handpick local leaders under a redrawn political map, permit civil liberties to be suspended under extended states of emergency and allow Chavez to seek re-election indefinitely. Now, Chavez will be barred from running again in 2012.

Other changes would have shortened the workday from eight hours to six, created a social security fund for millions of informal laborers and promoted communal councils where residents decide how to spend government funds. The reforms also would have granted Chavez control over the Central Bank and extended presidential terms from six to seven years.

"To those who voted against my proposal, I thank them and congratulate them," Chavez said.

But he also urged calm and restraint. "I ask all of you to go home, know how to handle your victory," Chavez said. "You won it. I wouldn't have wanted that Pyrrhic victory."

Yet he made it clear he would remain a formidable foe.

Echoing words he spoke when as an army officer he was captured and jailed for leading a failed 1992 coup, he said: "For now, we couldn't."

The ever combative Chavez had warned opponents ahead of the vote he would not tolerate attempts to incite violence, and threatened to cut off oil exports to the U.S. if Washington interfered.

All was reported calm during Sunday's voting but 45 people were detained, most for committing ballot-related crimes like "destroying electoral materials," said Gen. Jesus Gonzalez, chief of a military command overseeing security.

At a polling station in one politically divided Caracas neighborhood, Chavez supporters shouted "Get out of here!" to opposition backers who stood nearby aiming to monitor the vote count. A few dozen Chavistas rode by on motorcycles with bandanas and hats covering their faces, some throwing firecrackers.

Opponents—including Roman Catholic leaders, press freedom groups, human rights groups and prominent business leaders—feared the reforms would have granted Chavez unchecked power and threatened basic rights.

Cecilia Goldberger, a 56-year-old voting in affluent eastern Caracas, said Venezuelans did not really understand how Chavez's power grab would affect them. She resented pre-dawn, get-out-the-vote tactics by Chavistas, including fireworks and reveille blaring from speakers mounted on cruising trucks.

"I refuse to be treated like cattle and I refuse to be part of a communist regime," the Israeli-born Goldberger said, adding that she and her businessman husband hope to leave the country.

Chavez, 53, is seen by many as a champion of the poor who has redistributed more oil wealth than any other leader in memory.

Tensions have surged in recent weeks as university students led protests and occasionally clashed with police and Chavista groups.

Lucena called the vote "the calmest we've had in the last 10 years."

___

Associated Press writers Frank Bajak, Edison Lopez, Fabiola Sanchez, Jorge Rueda, Christopher Toothaker and Sandra Sierra contributed to this report.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1
El Loco
Posts: 204
Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:49 am

Re: venezuela said no dictatorship and communism senor chavez.

Post by El Loco »

The problem with Chavez is he never knows when to shut the fock up. It's as if he thinks he's the leader of some sort of world-wide revolution. Now, having bit off more than he can chew, he's going to inexorably lose political power. He should have focussed his energies on the needs of his citizenry instead of constantly trying to atagonize the US and other states.
User avatar
QansaGabeyle
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 14164
Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2002 7:00 pm
Location: Beled Xawo, Somalia
Contact:

Re: venezuela said no dictatorship and communism senor chavez.

Post by QansaGabeyle »

Mad Mac never changes no matter what name he sports. Laughing Fock America..... Cool
El Loco
Posts: 204
Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:49 am

Re: venezuela said no dictatorship and communism senor chavez.

Post by El Loco »

Screw
Note this cocksocker insulted me. I want him banned, postwith.
Locked
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “General - General Discussions”