The race for business opportunities in Somalia will begin

[Alchemist]

When Somalis are finally tired of fighting each other and the country becomes stable, there will be a race for business opportunities.. Somalis have become independent from relying on a government, each group building up it's region.. This is a good in a lot of ways, now the country will be much more than just xamar so every region will grow at a even pace.

Such cities as Xamar, Kismaayo, Bosaaso, Marka, Beledweyne will do great..

Inshallah once we get passed the qabil (4'5) stage and embrace economic growth everything will be fine..




I have so many ideas already..

What about you'll?

Is anyone planning on moving back once the country settles down?

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saxib ideas are just that... its so hard to start up a business in africa, let alone a country with no infrastructure. there's no doubt somalia as a whole has huge potentials and resources but the people mentality its wot will brake you. if im honest i sugest u go there, live there for a bit and thats when you'll realise wot i'm saying

[Voltage]

As long as the West is looking for raw resources and Now China has joined from extreme position, Africa is more screwed than ever. If only something like the developmentalist periods of South America in the 40's and 50's can be implemented in Africa with the West crippling it at every chance!!

[MJ-Pride]

I will start a big construction company. Imagine getting huge contracts from the government and business people. ROYAL CONSTRUCTION COMPANY tm.! Roll on good days!

[Voltage]

[quote="MJ-Pride"]I will start a big construction company. Imagine getting huge contracts from the government and business people. ROYAL CONSTRUCTION COMPANY tm.! Roll on good days![/quote]


That's what you THINK. As soon as the government is really legitimate, AID is flowing in from the U.N and stuff, Western multinationals will come and run over you in the competition to get that contract.

Only if the government nationalizes or puts protection on things such as construction can you or anyone surivive, but the fact that we don't have a strong government with a backbone but a weak one which will be controlled by the IMF and their demands of laissez faire free-market economics coupled with the fact this aint the cold war where governments can go under the soviet wing if cast off by the west pretty much tells you the chances of that happening

[MJ-Pride]

Hey, Look at this way, Somalis line along clan lineages. If the Western companies frustrate my bid to win the rights of Major construction deals, I will find a way to stifle the competition by getting connections from the government(even if that means giving money on the low). Yaa Majeerteen ah baa blilaaban

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[quote="Voltage"]

That's what you THINK. As soon as the government is really legitimate, AID is flowing in from the U.N and stuff, Western multinationals will come and run over you in the competition to get that contract.

Only if the government nationalizes or puts protection on things such as construction can you or anyone surivive, but the fact that we don't have a strong government with a backbone but a weak one which will be controlled by the IMF and their demands of laissez faire free-market economics coupled with the fact this aint the cold war where governments can go under the soviet wing if cast off by the west pretty much tells you the chances of that happening[/quote]

Bollocks... the west dont give a fuk about building africa let alone setting up construction companies in somalia... all they want is raw materials to run their own economy. As an example...setting up a succesful construction company comes with high start-up cost, you also need to have a reliable supply chain, a bullet proof business plan and most importantly in africa you need to have good links with government officials.

Dont ever get stuck in the state of mind that everything wrong with the world is the white man's fault and whatever you do in somalia... dont think you can just walk in and start a business from the get go. NO MATTER HOW GOOD YOUR IDEA IS.

[8Ball]

[quote="Voltage"]


"That's what you THINK. As soon as the government is really legitimate, AID is flowing in from the U.N and stuff, Western multinationals will come and run over you in the competition to get that contract."

Very good observation and I agree with it 100%. No local enterprise will get a shot. After the dust settles, it will be foreign investors getting the contracts to rebuild infrastructure. That likely will be investment from western europe, US and Canada.


"Only if the government nationalizes or puts protection on things such as construction can you or anyone surivive, but the fact that we don't have a strong government with a backbone but a weak one which will be controlled by the IMF and their demands of laissez faire free-market economics coupled with the fact this aint the cold war where governments can go under the soviet wing if cast off by the west pretty much tells you the chances of that happening"

Its not that easy for governments from any third world nation especially in Africa. There can't/wont be any special provisions by government officials. Somalia is doomed to foreign investment. Like you said its all economics.

[Voltage]

[quote="MJ-Pride"]Hey, Look at this way, Somalis line along clan lineages. If the Western companies frustrate my bid to win the rights of Major construction deals, I will find a way to stifle the competition by getting connections from the government(even if that means giving money on the low). Yaa Majeerteen ah baa blilaaban[/quote]

The one thing that escapes your intelligence and 8ball gets is that the GOVERNMENT ISN'T FREE TO DECIDE WHAT IT WANTS. Did you not understand what I said? Somalia will be like a buxom beauty lying half naked on a deserted beach strip without anyone to come to her aid. The Western mulitnationals will be the ones that control that government.

If the Chinese president came to Seattle, WA first before going to Washington, DC to meet with Boeing, Micrsoft and Bill Gates, plus Howard Shultz of Starbucks, BEFORE meeting Bush what the hell do you think Somalia is??

[8Ball]

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"Bollocks... the west dont give a fuk about building africa let alone setting up construction companies in somalia... all they want is raw materials to run their own economy. As an example...setting up a succesful construction company comes with high start-up cost, you also need to have a reliable supply chain, a bullet proof business plan and most importantly in africa you need to have good links with government officials."

That is partly true. Ask yourself this question. How are they going to obtain the raw materials needed? It takes money and investment to do that so they essentially have to invest financial resources achieve that goal.

I think you are underestimating the economic strength of G8 nations.


"Dont ever get stuck in the state of mind that everything wrong with the world is the white man's fault and whatever you do in somalia... dont think you can just walk in and start a business from the get go. NO MATTER HOW GOOD YOUR IDEA IS."

Whos gonna stop foreign investment there when its needed to stimulate the economy in the longterm?

[Voltage]

[quote="8Ball"]
Its not that easy for governments from any third world nation especially in Africa. There can't/wont be any special provisions by government officials. Somalia is doomed to foreign investment. Like you said its all economics.[/quote]

That is exactly what i said 8 Ball, Somalia has no chance of nationalizing or protecting any of its sectors because they are not strong enough like venesuala to give the middle finger (why Hugo Chavez is made to look bad) nor does the Soviet Union exist which was an alternative for many nations before

[Voltage]

[quote="8Ball"]Whos gonna stop foreign investment there when its needed to stimulate the economy in the longterm?[/quote]


Exactly! And those foreign investments come with their catches, in exchange for putting capital they want to have control, this is what that individual is forgetting.

Previously the Western nations industrialized on the BACK of Africa. They got all their capital and free raw materials to stimulate their economy gradually going through the stages to their service based economies while they now are the obstacle to Africa's success cuz they want to keep it a helpless woman they can molest at will every time they get horny

[8Ball]

[quote="Voltage"]

"The one thing that escapes your intelligence and 8ball gets is that the GOVERNMENT ISN'T FREE TO DECIDE WHAT IT WANTS. Did you not understand what I said? Somalia will be like a buxom beauty lying half naked on a deserted beach strip without anyone to come to her aid. The Western mulitnationals will be the ones that control that government."

I don't think he understands the economics of multinational corporations. They will have links established wit government officials to begin with. Why would a third-world nation desperate to rebuild turn down millions of dollars that longterm helps sustain its economy?


"If the Chinese president came to Seattle, WA first before going to Washington, DC to meet with Boeing, Micrsoft and Bill Gates, plus Howard Shultz of Starbucks, BEFORE meeting Bush what the hell do you think Somalia is?

Spot on.

[Voltage]

8Ball, MjPride should watch this

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FKr_soG4DUA

[8Ball]

[quote="Voltage"]

"That is exactly what i said 8 Ball, Somalia has no chance of nationalizing or protecting any of its sectors because they are not strong enough like venesuala to give the middle finger (why Hugo Chavez is made to look bad) nor does the Soviet Union exist which was an alternative for many nations before"

Venezuela is an oil rich nation period. If you look at the prices of oil worldwide its astronomical. Of course if you're an OPEC member and you export oil you have alot of clout. Its a major commodity in the world.

Not to mention that CITGO here in the US is Venezuelan owned.