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Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:34 am
by James Dahl
Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:43 am
by Rebel-Lion
the region you call 'hobyo', you mean the majeerten sultane of hobyo.
Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:45 am
by Gamadid.
We have lost a huge chunk of our land to Ethiopia. I notice Marehan Kingdom going from Texas Size to a peanut size Newhampshire, whatever happened? :)) Real reer guuraa iga dheh, they just pakced up one day and moved to the South.
Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:48 am
by King-of-Awdal
I see our friend Jamac still is in the Business of making fake maps.LOL
Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:48 am
by Rebel-Lion
I believe marehan were pushed away from their regions by the bicidyahan and other clans, so they started moving to the south.
Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:56 am
by James Dahl
[quote="King-of-Awdal"]I see our friend Jamac still is in the Business of making fake maps.LOL[/quote]
It's more of a hobby really, I don't make any money off these. I'm just a history nut, love it and love exploring history.
Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:00 am
by James Dahl
[quote="Gamadid."]We have lost a huge chunk of our land to Ethiopia. I notice Marehan Kingdom going from Texas Size to a peanut size Newhampshire, whatever happened? :)) Real reer guuraa iga dheh, they just pakced up one day and moved to the South.[/quote]
Marehan lost a lot of resources first fighting for Ahmad Gurey in Ethiopia and then afterwards defending Harar from the Abyssinian/Portuguese army. My theory, which has no evidence to back it up but it's my theory anyways, is that the Marehan lost too much from these and the people they ruled defeated them and took over, except their "hometowns", where they all moved to after that.
My theory about the Ajuran collapse is the Portuguese took over the merchant traffic, which the Ajuran depended on. They were weakened enough that the same thing happened to them.
Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:03 am
by James Dahl
Just noticed a stupid mistake, I mislabeled El Dere as "Dusamareb"
Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:04 am
by King-of-Awdal
Well James ur Maps and History are Bias and are not authentic.
Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:06 am
by Gamadid.
Waraa king-Awdal,
Just because your clan was notably absent from some of the maps or were afforded one xaafad size doesn't mean someone is creating false maps :)) Next time our white resident James Dahl should accomodate your ego mate and enlarge your side of Somalia.
Rebel
MJs yaa siiyay Hobyo saxib? The renegade brother of the King Osman of the east came as a guest at first telling his hosts he was recruiting and building an army to invade his brother's kingdom. He begged for a land and needed assistance. He was given the land and before the locals knew it, he slaughtered them and decalred himself a king of Hobyo with the help of foreign mercenaries. A crook man indeed he was :)) Eventually, His army was exclusively made of Sacad. My great grandfather and Suldan Cali Yusuf even had an encounter I am not discussing.
Saxib, there is your-history, and then there is that everyone-else-s history :))
Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:07 am
by Kramer
some of this maps are incorrect --with the tribes things --I don't think there was something called "Harti" at the 13 century --let alone the Daroods themselves are sayin that they come to Somalia in the 11 century --and you talking about Majartiin and Harti in the 7 century!
The first use of Harti come out after 1920s!
You got right on Ajuuraan Dynasty and Darwiish dynast!
Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:08 am
by King-of-Awdal
Gamadid.
I dont care if my clan didnt get even a single plot of land. I just have to express my view. One more thing am not from Somalia. :)
Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:09 am
by Twisted_Logic
James Dahl,
Excellent job man. Keep up
Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:11 am
by Gamadid.
^ king-Awdal, I am not from Somalia is something you can tell to a nonsomali. Don't waste your time telling that to another somali saxib. It is a waste of time. Xataa haddii aan niraahno you are from Somaliland, it just means you are from the land of Somalis. Okay, may be make that into from Brittish somaliland, still, what does that say?
Sometimes dadka way iska hadlaan.
Re: Somali history in maps, from the ancient world to the modern
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:15 am
by Alchemist
James i got a question.. Your claim for making maps you say is "your a nut for history", Ok why would a white dude be so interested in a small boring somali history.
Im somali and if i would to study history to be honest i would spend more time studying the history of other civilizations such as Rome, Persia, Islamic empire..
