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horta
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:02 am
by Young Wadani *
Wasn't Xassan older then Isaaq ?
Re: horta
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:25 am
by sadeboi
well if I remember correctly...xassan was born 1 year and 20 days before isaaq.!!
Re: horta
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:15 am
by Advo
sadeboi wrote:well if I remember correctly...xassan was born 1 year and 20 days before isaaq.!!
that is just not possible.....no way!!!!, 90% of somalis are unaware of their birthdates, yet we magically passed down the days inbetween two niggas that lived in the 13th century.
Re: horta
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:32 pm
by sadeboi
Re: horta
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:10 pm
by Shankaroon_614
Sadeboi, waanba yaabee walahi I didn't even want to reply until u said u were being sarcastic..which I didn't know

Re: horta
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:15 pm
by Nabeela
Re: horta
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:20 pm
by sadeboi
Re: horta
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:43 pm
by QansaGabeyle
No he was younger. Isaaq was the first born therefore the Ugaas..........if Hassan was older, the Marexaan Ugaas would be reer Xassan instead of Reer Isaaq.
Re: horta
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:13 pm
by Shankaroon_614
lool Sadeboi true true
And Qansa has a point dear!
Horta how are we (or some of us) so positively sure that it was Issaq->(I know there is a name here but don't know the name)->Amaanreer->Raadamiir->Diini->Sharmarke...the oldest sons?? Mala hubaa?
Re: horta
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:26 pm
by QansaGabeyle
Maya lama hubo walaal but it is very likely that was the case. But for instance say Xassan was older than Isaaq and that after Xassan had his kids, he died while his father was still alive, then the Ugaasnimo would definitely go to Isaaq even though Xassan was older. So it could have been this case but I doubt it. Sharmarke was not the oldest by the way, he was the second oldest I believe. Sharmarke got the ugaasnimo the way Bush became president. Nin baa meesha laga saare.

Re: horta
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:09 pm
by Shankaroon_614
Qansa, what if Issaq got Ugaasnimada like Sharmarke or kuwii ka sii hooseeyey Issaq? Did that ever occur to you

Re: horta
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:03 pm
by Advo
Ugaasnimo goes to the oldest.......and Sharmaake was the oldest therefore wax la khilaafey majirto, I dont even buy this "some religious dude name nur was suppose to get it cus he was the one who burried Ugaas Diini" talk, wa xaas waa iska sheeko, everyone must have known oneday sharmaake wouldve recieved it from the getgo, it's only logical that it shouldve been expected.
Re: horta
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:49 pm
by sadeboi
Qansa your logic won't work, because up to Maxamed-da'uud the ugaasnimo was shared between Darood oo dhan when he was killed by a descendant of Hawlrarsame amaanreer he was ugaas for all of Darood and some even say majeertaan killed him because MJ were next for ugaasnimo. Every clan use to get its turn, once lelkase, once ciise, once kablalax and so on, so Isaq was not necessarily ugaasyo . And marexaan nor any Darood clan were big enough to have their own ugaas, waxey kala aheyn reer-diini camal, ma ugaasyao kala dhuwan bey sameysan lahayeen. Lix bey isaq iyo xasan darood ka tirsadaan.
Advo your right, sheekoyinka nuur supposedly being the ugaas is just BS sheekoyinka radimiir weeye camal, because wuxu aha inan yar wiilasha bax-xawadlene rag waa weyn bey ahayeen, sharmarke ba ugu weyna, siyaad ba ku xigey, markaas warsame, hadane nuur sidee bu marka wiilkaas u helilaha ugaasnimada intaas oo wiil oo ka horeysey?
Re: horta
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:08 am
by Advo
who was siyaad oldest son?
Re: horta
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:11 am
by sadeboi
I know for sure it was cirrobe, because they always say it "curudki ciroobe." And if you look at it, suldaanimada reer-siyaad ayaka iskama laho.