Foreigners in Somaliland and diaspora from the west 2008

[The_Emperior5]

Somaliland oo cirka isku sii shareeraaya iyo dalxiisayaal ku soo badanaaya?
Written by Mohamed Jama
Jul 03, 2008 at 07:53 PM
Hargeisa (Qaran news)- Tifaftiraha Qaran News mudane Mohamed Jamac oo ayaamahanba ku sugnaa Somaliland ayaa war bixintan kooban oo uu ku eegayo ganacsiga Somaliland ka soo diray Hargeisa.

Waxa magaalada Hargaysa iyo guud ahaan dalka Somaliland ka socda dhaq dhaqaaq ganacsi oo aad u xoog badan isla markaasna u socda ama loo kala ganacsanaayo si xor ah.

Hadaba aniga oo in dhowaydba ku sugnaa magaalda Hargays ee caasimada Somaliland waxa aan u kuur galay arimaha gancsiga iyo socdaalka madaama oo ay dalka ku soo badanyaan dad aad u tiro badan oo aan iyagu u dhalanin Somaliland, isla markaasina dalka u yimaada muraado kala gadisan.

Hadaan kala qaado, dadyowga Somaliland u yimaada in ay ka ganacsadaan ama xidhiidh ganacsi la yeeshaan, ayaa la odhan karaa waxa ay ka kala yimaadaan gobolada kala gadisan ee dalka Somaliya ee aynu jaarka nahay, siiba magaalooyinka Muqdisho, Bosaaso, Baydhabo, Galkacayo iyo meelo kale oo dalkaasi ka tirsan, waxa aan dareemay ama aan arkay in ay dalka ku soo qul qulayaan ganacsato sita xool aad u badan oo ka imanaaya meelhaasi aan soo carabaabay, iyada oo marka aad la sheekaysato ay kuu sheegayaan in ay in mudo ah isha ku hayeen ganacsiga Somaliland ay ka dhex fushadaan kaasi oo ay u sababynayaan, amaanka iyo kala danbaynta ka hirgashay Somaliland, taasi oo ay ii raaciyeen in xukumada Somaliland iyo shicibkuba ay aad u soo dhaweeyeen cidii ka ganacsanysa dalkooda isla markaasna uu dalka Somaliland u furan yahay cid kasta oo maal gashi ku samysanysa.

Sidoo kale waxa aad ugu soo badanaaya oo beryahaba si xad dhaaf ah uga ganacsanaayay Somaliland Somalida iyaguna ku nool dalka Itoobiya, iyada oo qaarkood ay ku leeyihiin wershado iyo laama ganacsi oo aad u bal balaadhan kuwaasi oo runtii la odhan karo waxa ay ka qayb qaataan hawlaha ganacsi ee dalka ka socda iyada oo aan wax dhibaato ah loo gaysanin, waxa ay ii sheegeen dad aan la kulmay oo iyagu ka mid ah Somalida kiilka shanaad ee Itoobiya, in ayna xukumada iyo shacabka Somaliland wax dhib ah u gaysanin ganacsigooda oo ay si xor ah uga ganacsadaan dalka.

Waxa sida oo kale dalka ku sugan oo ka ganacsada ganacsato u dhalatay dalka aynu jarka nahay ee Djibouti, kuwaasi oo ka ganacsada caasimada iyo gobolada kale ee dalka iyaga marka aad la kulanto kuu sheegaaya in ay aad ugu faraxsanyihiin ganacsigooda iyo joogitaanka Somaliland, waxa ayna kugula kaftamayaan marka aad sii sheekaysataan in ay joogaan dal la mid ah dalkooda oo ayna ku qaloonin ama wax dhib ah kala kulmin xukumada iyo shacbiga toona.

Somalida degta geeska Afrika uun ma aha dadka u yimaada Somaliland arimo ganacsi ama sahamin ganacsi ee waxa aad arkaysaa ama jira quruumo kala gadisan oo ka kala yimaada dalalka Carabta, Afrika, Yurub, Shiinaha, Hindiya, Taiwan iyo meelo kaleba oo dalka u jooga ama yimaada hawlo ganacsi, taasi oo maanta Hargaysa ka dhigtay goob wax walba oo aad u baahatid aad ka heli kartid, inkasta oo sixir bararka caalamka saameeyay uu jiro hadana ma jirto meel ka alaab jaban oo ka tirsan wadamada Somaliland ku hareeraysan mar aan u kuur galay ama aan wax ka waydiiyay ganacsatadaasi dalka ku sugan ee iyagu ka soo jeeda dalalka jaarka.

Arimaha ganacsiga uun ma aha waxyaabaha soo jiitay in ay dad badan oo u dhashay wadamada inagu hareeraysan, ee aynu jaarka nahay ay u soo dalxiis tagaan dalka siiba caasimada oo ay aad u buux dhaafiyeen dadka qurba jooga ah ee ka soo jeeda Somaliya, kuwaaso oo wata caruur ay kala soo laabteen qurbaha siiba qaaradaha Yurub, Ameerica, wadamada Carabta iyo meelo kale oo faro badan kuwaasi oo ay soo jiidatay deganaasha'ha iyo nabada iyo kala danbaynta ka jirta Somaliland, taasi oo aad suuqyada Hargaysa ku arkaysid ciyaal iyo waalidiintoodii oo dalka u yimid in ay ku qaataan fasaxyadooda iyada oo dalkooda ayna booqan karin ama ku laaban karin sababa la xidhiidha amaanka, halkaasi oo ay saameeyeen colaado iyo dagaalo joogto ah.

Sidoo kale waxa dalka Djibouti si aad u xawli leh uga soo baxaaya dadka reer Jabuuti oo iyagu xiligan ka soo xagaa baxaaya dalkaasi oo cimiladiisu ay xiligani aad u kulushahay, sidoo kale tan iyo intii uu madaxweyne Rayaale uu dhawaan booqday dalkaasi Jabuuti waxa sii xoogaystay is aaminida labada shacab, taasina waxa ay sababtay in sanadkan ay dalka soo galayaan dadkii reer Jabuuti ee ugu badnaa ee xiliga xagaaga fasaxooda ku qaata gudaha Somaliland iyaga oo kala taga gobolada dalka badidooda, mana jiraan wax dhib ah oo ay kala kulmaan dalka.

Isku soo wada duuboo Somaliland waxa ay noqotay goob aad iyo aad ay ugu soo hirtaan wadamada geeska Afrika, taasi oo ay anfacaadsadaan nabadeda iyo daganaashaheeda, dhamaan dadkaasi marka aad la kulantana waxa ay u dacaynayaan xukumada Somaliland, shicibka iyo dhamaan qaybaha kala gadisan ee siyaasda Somaliland jaan gooya iyaga oo dadkaasi kala gadisani ay carbaabaan amaba ay qiraanba jiritaanka Somaliland, taasi oo ay qaarkood ku odhanyaan Somaliland nagama ay goosan ee waa dal jiri jiray hadana jira la noqoshada dawladnimadoodii ay 1960-kii Somali u geeyeena haday hada soo ceshadeen waa in aanu taageernaa oo garab istaagnaa.

Hadaba waxa la gudboon bulshada caalamka in ay aqoonsi buuxa mar labaad siiso Somaliland taasi oo aan xiligani meel fog jirin isla markaasina lagu gaadhi karo uun isku duubnaan iyo midnimo oo loo dhabar adaygo.

Mohamed Jama
Qarannews
Somaliland

[Executive]

They are in their own country.

[Shilling]

Some blogger who goes by Ozgur Leonard wrote this about his visit to Somaliland in 2005:

Initial impressions of Hargeisa can be summarized as "different". The streets are covered with inches of sand, the sun is very bright yet there's a continuous wind that keeps things cool, there are a couple of standing bombed-out buildings from the fighting which once demolished the entire city, but for the most part things are pretty unremarkable. There is little to nothing to do. The nightmarish plastic bags are back: after a brief respite in Ethiopia, the plague of plastic bags is back with a vengeance, completely lining and partially filling the dry river bed that divides the city into two. They're in the trees, shredded and strewn among bushes, partly buried or proudly coloring the landscape blue-and-white. I hate plastic bags. I don't know how Ethiopia managed to avoid the problem, but they need to share their secret and fast. I don't know how the country survives. They import everything (even used newspapers), mostly from the UAE, don't seem to have any industry and almost no agriculture. Apparently they once exported camels to Saudi Arabia but that's currently on hold. Fruit is also much more expensive here than in Ethiopia. Reminds me of Sudan in many ways. Standard food would be a plate of pasta or rice or beans. Or, one the many varieties of meat. All eaten with hands.

In an effort to conserve our precious US cash, we exchanged TCs in Ethiopia, intending to convert Birr into Somaliland Shillings once here. There are moneychangers all oer the market area, sitting behind boxes of chicken wire full of bundles of money. We had a lot of fun exchanging money, haggling over the rate which got worse every time we came back, and walking away with plastic bags full of money. We took comfort in the fact that thieves would probably target the people carrying money in wheelbarrows.

One thing about Hargeisa is the stares. Like hostile stares. We tried to work through that with "assalamu alaikum" to everyone we saw, but then they'd demand to know if we're muslim and give us doubly dirty looks upon getting a negative response. Plenty of people would stop us, ask where we're from and if we're muslim, then turn around and walk away without a further word. Maybe assessing our targetability. Not too many people saying "you're welcome, we're all the same!" here. There are plenty of people on the street who seem plainly insane to some degree or another. I suspect it's a combination of over-consumption of qat and too much direct sunlight. They're generally recognizable by a f*cked-up quality in their eyes. All told, I'm glad I have a travel companion to back me up.



I get a kick out of it every time women say "bismillahirrahmanirahim" as if they'd seen some evil creature, when they see me. They're beautiful but fully covered, and we tend to keep our gazes lowered and avoid eye contact. Best to not go down the path that leads to castration. Occasionally women can be seen hanging around, faces covered by some green paste (the nature of which I have been unable to determine) but is presumably to make their skin lighter. Too bad they don't realize black really is beautiful.



Bored of doing nothing in Hargeisa, we left for Berbera without an armed escort (foreigners are not allowed to leave Hargeisa, may not walk anywhere, and are shuttled in 4WDs from fortified and guarded office to fortified and guarded house. Seems pretty depressing. For fun they fly to Nairobi and spend spend spend, partying). While on our way to take the bus, some people came out to yell at us to "Go! Go!", as in "go away". So good to feel welcome. After waiting a couple hours to find the 8 passengers to be crammed in the station wagon, we head off, only to be stopped at the first checkpoint and told that we needed an armed escort. Thankfully they let us go.

Within minutes of landing in Berbera, we had checked into a decent hotel. The town is built near the port, but there is a vast wasteland of plastic bags and graves between the end of town and the (deserted) beach. We had to ask someone where the sea is because it's not obvious. It's way hotter in Berbera than in Hargeisa: my thermometer reads a constant 36C in my room at all hours. As it's way too hot to be outdoors in the middle of the day, we spent a lot of time napping or reading in our room. It's not the kind of place where you go to a cafe for a cappuccino and to read your book. People lounge around in the shade chewing qat and/or sipping tea with milk.

Berbera (and possibly the whole country) has the feel of being abandoned. As if the original owners just packed up and left, and the newcomers don't quite know what to do with what they've inherited. It's just a feeling I get when I see the collapsing villas, or the rows of whitewashed houses which like they were originally shops. It's like a ghost town with people. (After writing this blog, I learned that Berbera was actually an Ottoman town, and the Turks left as the British were arriving around the turn of the century. That explains a lot.)

source: http://www.travelblog.org/Africa/Somali ... 15154.html

Emperior, the account this white man writes on his blog is from 3 years ago, so unless Riyaale cut his expanses in half since then I doubt that much has changed in Somaliland lol

[siren]

Some blogger who goes by Ozgur Leonard wrote this about his visit to Somaliland in 2005:

Initial impressions of Hargeisa can be summarized as "different". The streets are covered with inches of sand, the sun is very bright yet there's a continuous wind that keeps things cool, there are a couple of standing bombed-out buildings from the fighting which once demolished the entire city, but for the most part things are pretty unremarkable. There is little to nothing to do. The nightmarish plastic bags are back: after a brief respite in Ethiopia, the plague of plastic bags is back with a vengeance, completely lining and partially filling the dry river bed that divides the city into two. They're in the trees, shredded and strewn among bushes, partly buried or proudly coloring the landscape blue-and-white. I hate plastic bags. I don't know how Ethiopia managed to avoid the problem, but they need to share their secret and fast. I don't know how the country survives. They import everything (even used newspapers), mostly from the UAE, don't seem to have any industry and almost no agriculture. Apparently they once exported camels to Saudi Arabia but that's currently on hold. Fruit is also much more expensive here than in Ethiopia. Reminds me of Sudan in many ways. Standard food would be a plate of pasta or rice or beans. Or, one the many varieties of meat. All eaten with hands.

In an effort to conserve our precious US cash, we exchanged TCs in Ethiopia, intending to convert Birr into Somaliland Shillings once here. There are moneychangers all oer the market area, sitting behind boxes of chicken wire full of bundles of money. We had a lot of fun exchanging money, haggling over the rate which got worse every time we came back, and walking away with plastic bags full of money. We took comfort in the fact that thieves would probably target the people carrying money in wheelbarrows.

One thing about Hargeisa is the stares. Like hostile stares. We tried to work through that with "assalamu alaikum" to everyone we saw, but then they'd demand to know if we're muslim and give us doubly dirty looks upon getting a negative response. Plenty of people would stop us, ask where we're from and if we're muslim, then turn around and walk away without a further word. Maybe assessing our targetability. Not too many people saying "you're welcome, we're all the same!" here. There are plenty of people on the street who seem plainly insane to some degree or another. I suspect it's a combination of over-consumption of qat and too much direct sunlight. They're generally recognizable by a f*cked-up quality in their eyes. All told, I'm glad I have a travel companion to back me up.



I get a kick out of it every time women say "bismillahirrahmanirahim" as if they'd seen some evil creature, when they see me. They're beautiful but fully covered, and we tend to keep our gazes lowered and avoid eye contact. Best to not go down the path that leads to castration. Occasionally women can be seen hanging around, faces covered by some green paste (the nature of which I have been unable to determine) but is presumably to make their skin lighter. Too bad they don't realize black really is beautiful.



Bored of doing nothing in Hargeisa, we left for Berbera without an armed escort (foreigners are not allowed to leave Hargeisa, may not walk anywhere, and are shuttled in 4WDs from fortified and guarded office to fortified and guarded house. Seems pretty depressing. For fun they fly to Nairobi and spend spend spend, partying). While on our way to take the bus, some people came out to yell at us to "Go! Go!", as in "go away". So good to feel welcome. After waiting a couple hours to find the 8 passengers to be crammed in the station wagon, we head off, only to be stopped at the first checkpoint and told that we needed an armed escort. Thankfully they let us go.

Within minutes of landing in Berbera, we had checked into a decent hotel. The town is built near the port, but there is a vast wasteland of plastic bags and graves between the end of town and the (deserted) beach. We had to ask someone where the sea is because it's not obvious. It's way hotter in Berbera than in Hargeisa: my thermometer reads a constant 36C in my room at all hours. As it's way too hot to be outdoors in the middle of the day, we spent a lot of time napping or reading in our room. It's not the kind of place where you go to a cafe for a cappuccino and to read your book. People lounge around in the shade chewing qat and/or sipping tea with milk.

Berbera (and possibly the whole country) has the feel of being abandoned. As if the original owners just packed up and left, and the newcomers don't quite know what to do with what they've inherited. It's just a feeling I get when I see the collapsing villas, or the rows of whitewashed houses which like they were originally shops. It's like a ghost town with people. (After writing this blog, I learned that Berbera was actually an Ottoman town, and the Turks left as the British were arriving around the turn of the century. That explains a lot.)

source: http://www.travelblog.org/Africa/Somali ... 15154.html

Emperior, the account this white man writes on his blog is from 3 years ago, so unless Riyaale cut his expanses in half since then I doubt that much has changed in Somaliland lol

[surria]

"There are plenty of people on the street who seem plainly insane to some degree or another. I suspect it's a combination of over-consumption of qat and too much direct sunlight"

Ala gaalo, their Superiority complex always comes out when they judge the looks of people from other countries. I mean just look around your own coutnries, not everyone looks sane and normal.


and then he says: "women can be seen hanging around, faces covered by some green paste (the nature of which I have been unable to determine) but is presumably to make their skin lighter." what makes hime think that the green paste is for lightening skin? Could it not be just a facial mask, a moisturizing mask, what an idiot.

[RebelLion]

Is it certain those are women in that picture or is it some qaldaan drag queens? damn disgusting looking.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

http://www.travelblog.org/Africa/Somali ... 15154.html
interesting reading really what the white man wrote about hargeysa and berbera. but waqooyilanders were waiting that the white boy will write something positive about their waqooyiland republic, but what he wrote is really bad. like this one qoute

(( and walking away with plastic bags full of money. We took comfort in the fact that thieves would probably target the people carrying money in wheelbarrows. ) qoute

wuxuu ka wadaa lacagta lagu qaado bac kaliya buuxisa qiimo sidaa u baddan ma laha ee tuugada waxay eegtaan lacagta GAARI GACANKA lagu qaado sababtoo ah taas ayaa ka qiimo baddan.

wiilka cadaanka ee qorey waa kuwii uu The_Emperior5 sawiradooda halkan ku soo qoraayo iyagoo ku dabalanaya xeebta berbera. isagoo moodey inay AQOONSI u soo wadaan

laakiin aqoonsigii waxay ku badaleen HARGEYSA (magaalo dad wada waalan ay joogaan oo jaad la wada cunaya dadka indhaha kuu gubayaan) sorry qaldaanoos ninka cadaanka waa idinku jizaarey.laakiin cadaan jaceylka waad ku dheereysaan idinka

[RebelLion]

^

[Goljano Lion]

Is it certain those are women in that picture or is it some qaldaan drag queens? damn disgusting looking.

these are Ethiopians we should deport them

[Cisse Westlake]

:somaliland: ha noolato

[RebelLion]

Is it certain those are women in that picture or is it some qaldaan drag queens? damn disgusting looking.

these are Ethiopians we should deport them

You sure they're ethiopians? I guess they could be oromo, those people are scattered all over somalia.

[Goljano Lion]

Is it certain those are women in that picture or is it some qaldaan drag queens? damn disgusting looking.

these are Ethiopians we should deport them

You sure they're ethiopians? I guess they could be oromo, those people are scattered all over somalia.

sxb waa masaakiin ciyaalo suuqdaa ku wasta 50 cent.... siddi loo wasaayey bahalo u eekaadeen. poor oromos

[Abtiga]

I suspect it's a combination of over-consumption of qat and too much direct sunlight. They're generally recognizable by a f*cked-up quality in their eyes. All told, I'm glad I have a travel companion to back me up.

Qaadka wax joojiyo Ilaahay Soomaali ha u keeno, this plant drove Somali men insane and made them useless.


It was fun to read. I read another report which was better and more positive than this one quoted above. Since 2005 a lot has changed and HARGAYSA took some more strides towards development.

[The_Emperior5]

war waxaan qashinkan they raped my topic

awoowgiin la cadaab

[WasteMan]

though qaldaan women looked better then that