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It is authentically reported from the Messenger (saw) in the hadeeth of 'Iyaad ibn Ghunum who said, "The Messenger of Allaah (saaws) said, 'Whoever desires to advise the one with authority then he should not do so openly, rather he should take him by the hand and take him into seclusion (and then advise him). And if he accepts (the advice) from him then (he has achieved his objective) and if not, then he has fulfilled that which was a duty upon him.' " (Reported by Ahmad)


May Allah guide him and his foes and Make them stop spilling the Muslim bloods.. Aamin


brother Salafi

im sure A.yusuf is a member of this forum

Did you know that AY killed he's own brother for advising him to stop he's evil actions.

He was he's half brother but they had the same father.

^ His Brother was a Wadaad right?


The problem is not just Abdullahi Yusuf, Changing him or getting ridd of him will not solve anything. Its bigger than just this man alone.

[quote="salafi_student"]It is authentically reported from the Messenger (saw) in the hadeeth of 'Iyaad ibn Ghunum who said, "The Messenger of Allaah (saaws) said, 'Whoever desires to advise the one with authority then he should not do so openly, rather he should take him by the hand and take him into seclusion (and then advise him). And if he accepts (the advice) from him then (he has achieved his objective) and if not, then he has fulfilled that which was a duty upon him.' " (Reported by Ahmad)/quote]

There you go lying about the religion again. This hadith reffers to a Muslim ruler who rules by the Shari'ah, where does Abdullahi Yusuf fall in to this category?

Ever notice how this guy never posts anything beneficial to the Muslims e.g. reminding them to improve their tawhid, tawhab, 'ibaadah, taqwa, etc? Its always the usual "Let's not rebel against the leaders."

Stop your lies and leave the religion alone.

Executive wrote:^ His Brother was a Wadaad right?


The problem is not just Abdullahi Yusuf, Changing him or getting ridd of him will not solve anything. Its bigger than just this man alone.

I agree, i heard that its the type of people that produce the type of leaders.

If somalis were less tribal and more nationalistic than i do not believe that we would have had men like AY in leadership positions.

Executive wrote:^ His Brother was a Wadaad right?


The problem is not just Abdullahi Yusuf, Changing him or getting ridd of him will not solve anything. Its bigger than just this man alone.

Executive some people are so simple minded that they think that getting AY will solve somalia's 17 year civil war on the spot. havent they leatned the lesson with Siyad Bare???

Kolombo

Narrated AbuHurayrah: The Messenger of Allah (saw) said:" It is obligatory for you to listen to the ruler and obey him in adversity and prosperity, in pleasure and displeasure, and even when another person is given (rather undue) preference over you." (Bukhari)

But your in refusal to obey?


Prophet (saw) said: "The best of your Imams (leaders) are those whom you love and they love you, who pray for you and you pray for them; and the worst of your Imams are those whom you hate and they hate you and you curse them and they curse you." The Messenger of Allah (saw) was asked: "Would we not declare war on them (face them with the swords)?" He said: "No, as long as they establish Salah among you."


I have seen him praying in Eid prayer in congregation!

Student,

Does Abdullahi Yusuf rule by Shari'ah? No. Was he selected by a Shura? No. Did he not come to power with the aid of Kuffaar? Yes.

The hadiths you provided do not reffer to him. Take my advice and stop lying about the religion.

Cabdullaahi yusuf is not in Authority. He only rule his clan psychologically. As far as I know, he as never and will never rule habargidir. We at war with him before he even came to somalia. He never listen to him and he does not rule us.

Minneapolis Mayor wrote:Cabdullaahi yusuf is not in Authority. He only rule his clan psychologically. As far as I know, he as never and will never rule habargidir. We at war with him before he even came to somalia. He never listen to him and he does not rule us.

HALKAA KA WAD.

Ghetto_Faarax wrote:im sure A.yusuf is a member of this forum

Kolombo wrote:
Ever notice how this guy never posts anything beneficial to the Muslims e.g. reminding them to improve their tawhid, tawhab, 'ibaadah, taqwa, etc? Its always the usual "Let's not rebel against the leaders."

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That is a bubble talk!

Isn't it beneficial to obey your rulers?

Kolombo wrote:

salafi_student wrote:It is authentically reported from the Messenger (saw) in the hadeeth of 'Iyaad ibn Ghunum who said, "The Messenger of Allaah (saaws) said, 'Whoever desires to advise the one with authority then he should not do so openly, rather he should take him by the hand and take him into seclusion (and then advise him). And if he accepts (the advice) from him then (he has achieved his objective) and if not, then he has fulfilled that which was a duty upon him.' " (Reported by Ahmad)/quote]

Ever notice how this guy never posts anything beneficial to the Muslims e.g. reminding them to improve their tawhid, tawhab, 'ibaadah, taqwa, etc? Its always the usual "Let's not rebel against the leaders."

Stop your lies and leave the religion alone.

Rebelling against our Muslim leaders is why the Muslim world is so backward...The truth of the matter is Al-shabaab and Co. are aspiring for political power and it seem the dispute with each other has begun. And in the history of Islam the dispute between Muslims arose on the question of political power. Who should wield political power and who should rule was the main question after the death of the Holy prophet. Thus Muslims began to divide on the question of power ever since the prophet's death (pbuh) and that predicament still hunts us all.

salafi_student

^^^

Takfiiris always use to go against the main ruler of the Mulsims at the time and give allegiance to a rebel leader. With their lack of knowledge or deviancy they tend to ignore the likes of this Hadith in Sahih Muslim;

Narrated by AbuSa'id al-Khudri: The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: "When oath of allegiance has been taken for two caliphs, kill the one for whom the oath was taken later".


They follow their desires and ignore the Hadith, to create mischief on the land!