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Are Deobandi muslims salafi/wahabis?

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:11 pm
by American-Suufi

Re: Are Deobandi muslims salafi/wahabis?

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:21 pm
by Munique05
:roll: :roll:

Re: Are Deobandi muslims salafi/wahabis?

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:40 pm
by American-Suufi
Munique05 wrote::roll: :roll:

munique :rose:

teach me belly dancing.

i neva heard deobandi, so many sects these days. wahabis are dividng into 200 sects.

Re: Are Deobandi muslims salafi/wahabis?

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:05 am
by Padishah
The Deobandi school is Hanafi in Fiqh, Maturidi in Aqidah, and follow a number of tariqah's of Tasawwuf, mainly the Chishtiyah. They are just a lot more rigorous than other schools of thought. About as un-Wahhabi as one can get.

Re: Are Deobandi muslims salafi/wahabis?

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:16 am
by Grant
Deobandi is a fundamentalist interpretion of Islam developed in Deoband, India, in response to British colonialism. It is the ideological base for the Taliban and much of Pakistan.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... obandi.htm

"Although the majority of the Islamic population (Sunni) in Afghanistan and Pakistan, belong to the Hanafi sect, the theologians who have pushed Pakistan towards Islamic Radicalism for decades, as well as the ones who were the founders of the Taliban, espoused Wahabi rhetoric and ideals. This sect took its inspiration from Saudi Hanbali theologians who immigrated there in the 18th century, to help their Indian Muslim brothers with Hanbali theological inspiration against the British colonialists. Propelled by oil-generated wealth, the Wahhabi worldview increasingly co-opted the Deobandi movement in South Asia. "

There is a Suufic strain within Deobandi, but the main thrust is Qutbist, which can be said to be Wahaabbi. They oppose both "Western" influence and the education of women. They consider Shia to be non-Muslim.

Re: Are Deobandi muslims salafi/wahabis?

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:34 am
by American-Suufi
grant u r saying padishah is wrong. let us hear from him again.

Re: Are Deobandi muslims salafi/wahabis?

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:35 pm
by Padishah
Global Security? Really Grant.

Deoband was heavily influenced by the same circle of people that influenced and taught Shaykh Muhammad ibn Abdalwahhab. That these men were Hanafi Chishti Sufi's with a preponderance for Hadith, does not mean that labels such as Wahhabi and Qutbi have any validity.

At the end of the day, Deoband and Najd differ on the key issue of Aqidah, and the presence of Sufism, both of which are deal breakers for the moneyed Najdi's.