Koran to be banned in Holland???

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Koran to be banned in Holland???

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No wonder Ayan inkaarqabto Hersi turned atheist in this country.. too much weed foks up one's mind. :mrgreen:



IF it were not for his hatred of Islam, Geert Wilders would have remained a provincial Dutch parliamentarian of little note.

He is now world-famous, mainly for wanting the Koran to be banned in his country, “like Mein Kampf is banned,” and for making a crude short film that depicted Islam as a terrorist faith — or, as he puts it, “that sick ideology of Allah and Muhammad.”

Last year the Dutch government decided that such views, though coarse, were an acceptable contribution to political debate. Yet last week an Amsterdam court decided that Mr. Wilders should be prosecuted for “insulting” and “spreading hatred” against Muslims. Dutch criminal law can be invoked against anyone who “deliberately insults people on the grounds of their race, religion, beliefs or sexual orientation.”

Whether Mr. Wilders has deliberately insulted Muslim people is for the judges to decide. But for a man who calls for a ban on the Koran to act as the champion of free speech is a bit rich. When the British Parliament refused to screen Mr. Wilders’s film at Westminster this week, he cited this as “yet more proof that Europe is losing its freedom.” His defenders, by no means all right-wingers, also claim to be standing up for freedom. A Dutch law professor said he found it “strange” that a man should be prosecuted for “criticizing a book.”

This seems a trifle obtuse. Comparing a book that billions hold sacred to Hitler’s murderous tract is more than an exercise in literary criticism; it suggests that those who believe in the Koran are like Nazis, and an all-out war against them would be justified. This kind of thinking, presumably, is what the Dutch law court is seeking to check.

One of the misconceptions that muddle the West’s debate over Islam and free speech is the idea that people should be totally free to insult. Free speech is never that absolute. Even — or perhaps especially — in America, where citizens are protected by the First Amendment, there are certain words and opinions that no civilized person would utter, and others that open the speaker to civil charges.

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what do you expect a place where prostitution and drugs are legal, what good decisions will u expect from these ppl.

Even Americans look down on them, and alway worry about their country becoming like these Dutch countries.
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lol

the dutch however are one of the most progressive nations on earth with some of the lowest number of violent crimes and sexual assaults

not to mention a great spot to vacation

I wouldn't say its all bad
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I will be a terrible idea.
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It's just Wilder, he's a fruitcake and his party is minuscule.
They're more likely to ban the Koran in Saudi Arabia than in Holland. The Dutch are the most liberal people on earth.
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Those double faced..dual citizens of America (the Jews) and in the west are behind all this Islamophobia we have seen in recent years..
and the MFs are everywhere to shape the public's opinion ..in newspapers, on TV..in the movies and in the governments to somehow shape and influence every western gov. policies.. as well.

This is from Krauthammer of the Washington post.

Every new president flatters himself that he, kinder and gentler, is beginning the world anew. Yet, when Barack Obama in his inaugural address reached out to Muslims by saying "to the Muslim world, we seek a new way forward, based on mutual interest and mutual respect," his formulation was needlessly defensive and apologetic

The two Balkan interventions -- as well as the failed 1992-93 Somalia intervention to feed starving African Muslims (43 Americans were killed) -- were humanitarian exercises of the highest order, there being no significant U.S. strategic interest at stake. In these 20 years, this nation has done more for suffering and oppressed Muslims than any nation, Muslim or non-Muslim, anywhere on Earth. Why are we apologizing?

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WRONG

but fanatic muslims should be kicked out of Hoolaand untill they learn how to behave and live in a secular country
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That’s greerd willders he wants to change freedom of religion in Holland only for muslims :lol: :lol:
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MOST TERRORISTS

ARE MUSLIMS


SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH ISLAM
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Bazuuka wrote:MOST TERRORISTS

ARE MUSLIMS


SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH ISLAM

Adi markaa soo kabatidba Islaamka lee maa ku ciil go'daa kaalay?? :lol:

Ppl drink to have fun.. whats fun about this?? cawada hadaa dhimatid..aakhiro naarta toos waaye..su'aal xataa ma jirto. :lol: :lol:
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Cawar i had my doubt about ISLAM

doesnt matter if iam drinking or not

i see ISLAM backward
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Costa, what do you see as forward thinking?? I am curious to know if you can even articulate that??
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Qof ceytamaya maxa kala doodaa


horta if someone says i dont believe ISLAM anymore why all of you Somalis ATTACK ?
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Bazuuka wrote:Qof ceytamaya maxa kala doodaa


horta if someone says i dont believe ISLAM anymore why all of you Somalis ATTACK ?
:lol: Warya where did I attack you hadda?? I just asked you a question..

Mise jawaabti aa luuq kaa gashi??lol
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cawar horta why do you even go in discussion with this guy, cirku maraya :lol:
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