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Everyone of them thinks they and only they have the correct formula. No room for anything else.
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Re: ISLAMIST
Not all are wrong, there must be one right. So look for that one and leave the rest!
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They all agree on one thing, they all disagree.
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General Duufle yaa maanta ku so maagay, bullying waa balaayo
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Re: ISLAMIST
You'll need some good'ol punani, frustration can play with the mind.Somaliweyn Commando wrote:General Duufle yaa maanta ku so maagay, bullying waa balaayo
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I think you'll find one thing all Islamists can agree on is the regulations regarding 'needing punani'GENERAL_SNM wrote:You'll need some good'ol punani, frustration can play with the mind.Somaliweyn Commando wrote:General Duufle yaa maanta ku so maagay, bullying waa balaayo
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Re: ISLAMIST
The Arab version of Shariif and Al-Shayadiin.......
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He's a shia. Do all us Islamists look the same to you?Ureysoo wrote:The Arab version of Shariif and Al-Shayadiin.......
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Both sects come under Islam banner, and each immoral attribute displayed by them will be pretty much categorised under Muslims character-defects, according 2 the rest of the world. Do u think the watcher of such video, will recall the fact that impostor is Shi’a or Sunni?. Beside, the word Islamists puts them collectively into the same category, be it Shi’a, Sunni or Sufi.....
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Ureysoo wrote:Both sects come under Islam banner, and each immoral attribute displayed by them will be pretty much categorised under Muslims character-defects, according 2 the rest of the world. Do u think the watcher of such video, will recall the fact that impostor is Shi’a or Sunni?. Beside, the word Islamists puts them collectively into the same category, be it Shi’a, Sunni or Sufi.....
Where in the world did you get the idea that our morality or immorality is subject to western or rest of the world approval? Is the you tube watcher the moral arbiter of the universe. Who cares what he or she thinks? If you do truly care about inviting people to the way of Islam, then post a video up there inviting people to it and inshallah Allah will reward you for that. God guides whom he wills and some random shia guy crying is neither here nor there. But I'm curious, why is a Shia man fake crying in a mosque an Islamist? Is fake crying in mosques political? For your own sake I suggest you learn to distinguish what does and does not come under Islamic banner. Believing, for example, that Allah will reveal his face and it will be Ali( r.a) does NOT come under the Islam banner. It comes under the crazy banner.
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Is this dude sane or yapping 4 the sake of it!!!.
Did I say our dissolution and decency are subject 2 the western countries approval!!!. However, I stated the mere fact that the sight of fake Muslims is to a great extent wrecking the overall image of Muslims and obtaining a good representation is crucially essential 2 persuade ppl 2 convert.
Loool@ If you do truly care about inviting people to the way of Islam.
I don’t need 2 invite the posters of this forum 2 Islam, since 99% of them are already Muslims. So, being Islamist has association with politics or anything related 2 it?. I suggest u 2 grab the bloody dictionary and correct ur definitions, darling. The word Islamist is used 2 portray Muslims, especially extremist. Due 2 the facts mentioned above, they apparently come under Islam banner, given that they happen 2 be Muslims – whether they are genuine or not.
Ur last case in point is so futile and has no linkage 2 this particular theme by a great margin. Unless u are trying 2 score some points by stating impractical comments.
Did I say our dissolution and decency are subject 2 the western countries approval!!!. However, I stated the mere fact that the sight of fake Muslims is to a great extent wrecking the overall image of Muslims and obtaining a good representation is crucially essential 2 persuade ppl 2 convert.
Loool@ If you do truly care about inviting people to the way of Islam.
I don’t need 2 invite the posters of this forum 2 Islam, since 99% of them are already Muslims. So, being Islamist has association with politics or anything related 2 it?. I suggest u 2 grab the bloody dictionary and correct ur definitions, darling. The word Islamist is used 2 portray Muslims, especially extremist. Due 2 the facts mentioned above, they apparently come under Islam banner, given that they happen 2 be Muslims – whether they are genuine or not.
Ur last case in point is so futile and has no linkage 2 this particular theme by a great margin. Unless u are trying 2 score some points by stating impractical comments.
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Both sects come under Islam banner
Believing, for example, that Allah will reveal his face and it will be Ali( r.a) does NOT come under the Islam banner. It comes under the crazy banner.
Really, does it have no linkage at all?Ur last case in point is so futile and has no linkage 2 this particular theme by a great margin
Listen I don't mean to be really rude but you are sort of wrong so that ends up looking rude when I point it out. Given that you complained about how this shia man fake crying about the death of Hussien looked to non-muslim viewers on youtube, I said if you are sincere in your concern with how this looks then perhaps try making a video ON YOUTUBE calling people to Islam. I think that was clear from post a video 'up there' but perhaps not. No one mentioned anything about this forum.
I don't need the dictionary right now thanks, but if you are going to use the word Islamist in the future, this is some sincere advice which you can take or leave: it is very much related to politics. Also, and I'm aware this last comment might seem a little unfair, but for your general education, comments cannot be practical or impractical to say.
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It’s quite frank that the Sh’ias are contaminated and went off the rails, nevertheless, Shi'a sect is still considered as one of Islam's divisions. As the prophet (peace be upon him) declared in one of his hadiths “The Ummah would part into 73 sects and only one sect followers would go 2 heaven”. That alone exemplifies that Shi’as are indeed part of that Ummah and forms one of Islam's sects, and hence, categorized under Islam banner (their punishment in judgment day has little to do with this issue, since we are not discussing their shortcoming or blunders, but the mere fact they are Muslims).
---- “Given that you complained about how this shia man fake crying about the death of Hussien looked to non-muslim viewers on youtube, I said if you are sincere in your concern with how this looks then perhaps try making a video ON YOUTUBE calling people to Islam ” ---
Do u think by uploading one video, and questioning the deed of that particular dude will do us any justice?. As I stated previously, it’s not about the man’s crocodile tear or the presupposed “western approval” which concerns me, but the overall image of Islam and I stated my reasons in the previous post.
Yet again, the word Islamist is not associated 2 politics alone and its used diversely 2 portray Muslims and their social goals too (the definition of that word can also go beyond the cited points). That’s why I suggested u 2 refer 2 the dictionary.
Kulaha, I might come across as rude when am addressing ur mistakes. Darling, u are thus far falling short 2 make a crystal-clear response, conversely, u are more likely rotating all over the place.....
---- “Given that you complained about how this shia man fake crying about the death of Hussien looked to non-muslim viewers on youtube, I said if you are sincere in your concern with how this looks then perhaps try making a video ON YOUTUBE calling people to Islam ” ---
Do u think by uploading one video, and questioning the deed of that particular dude will do us any justice?. As I stated previously, it’s not about the man’s crocodile tear or the presupposed “western approval” which concerns me, but the overall image of Islam and I stated my reasons in the previous post.
Yet again, the word Islamist is not associated 2 politics alone and its used diversely 2 portray Muslims and their social goals too (the definition of that word can also go beyond the cited points). That’s why I suggested u 2 refer 2 the dictionary.
Kulaha, I might come across as rude when am addressing ur mistakes. Darling, u are thus far falling short 2 make a crystal-clear response, conversely, u are more likely rotating all over the place.....
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OK sister,
A nice post you made. I apologize for being a little harsh earlier. About the hadeeth you mention, I'm not sure those 72 other sects can be considered Muslim since all Muslims will go to heaven, at least eventually. If you check around there is probably little support for the view you take from an orthodox theological perspective. But you are right in so far as some more mild shias are still Muslim but some others- such as the ones who believe Ali is God- are no longer Muslim.
A nice post you made. I apologize for being a little harsh earlier. About the hadeeth you mention, I'm not sure those 72 other sects can be considered Muslim since all Muslims will go to heaven, at least eventually. If you check around there is probably little support for the view you take from an orthodox theological perspective. But you are right in so far as some more mild shias are still Muslim but some others- such as the ones who believe Ali is God- are no longer Muslim.
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All those who died upon the Shahada will eventually permitted to heaven. However, the sinners, the killers and those who indulge in majar sins and die upon it, will have a taste of their actions in Hell, even though they are Muslims. This is why Allah (swt) is just! he punishes the one who desrved to be punished.
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