How do I approach this?

[ms.naliaa]

I love my brother to d.e.a.t.h.

hes' one of the most intellignet people i know (knowledge wise)
but, everytime him and his boys start talking religion...he takes off with his science b.s. and last night, me and him really got into it about evolution. Then my mom told him to pray and he was like yea yea yea....

And the most astonishing thing here is HE went to dugsi until he was 15; I've never been.


Im scared to say this but I think my brother is an athiest.


Might I add....I loath his taste in women

[black velvet]

Science is not bullshit. If he talks science talk to him in science evolution does not disprove God.

There are loads of resources out there that can help both of you lakin at the end of the day Ilaahey aa dadka soo hanuuniyo, play qur'an out loud in the house

Inshallah kheyr

[ms.naliaa]

You can take a horse to the water but u cant make him drink. Similarly, I can tell my brother, go read this book and listen to that...but hes not really buying it.

lol@ play qura'n in the house....

tnx tho

[AbdiWahab252]

He reminds me of my childhood friend. The man was a straight up atheist but very well versed in the Quran and hadith. Many people tried arguing with him but he wouldn't listen and always had a rebuttal.

Years passed and when I saw him, he became deeply religious.

[Mtombaji]

I won't be worried about it. It is his life, his decisions. " La ikraah fidiin" which means you can't force someone into the religion. If he wants to go to Jahanam, he can go a head. I am sure he won't be the only somali in there. He would have many of his buddies in there.

[Inspirational_Leader]

Inshallah he'll see the light, maybe he's just young and questioning. Just be patient with him.

[ms.naliaa]

Mto:
you're telling me to watch my brother walk the road to hell and not be worried
get da fuk outa here!

[Cawar]

Nalia, dont push it.. its just a phase he is going through..most likely.. and the more you argue with him ..the more he becomes defensive..

Juts let him be for a while.. and I am sure he will calm down.. God willingly.

[SummerRain]

Nalia,

This was my fav debate in Evolution class, and my prof, though christian had the same stance as your brother on this very subject. If one is Islamically knowledgable, then to argue about evolution is utterly silly IMO. Here is a read that might help.

Where does Islam stand on the theory of evolution? Do we believe that the earth was created in six days?

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear questioner, we are greatly pleased to receive your question, which shows the confidence you place in us. May Allah reward you abundantly for your interest in knowing the teachings of Islam.

In the first place, we would like to stress that Allah is the Absolute Controller of every event that has taken place, is taking place, and will take place.

Every living thing in the universe has been given life by Allah, and Allah alone is sustaining every second of its life. If a species survives better than another in a particular environment, it is because Allah allowed it to live more days, and He willed for its posterity to continue.

Responding to your question, Dr. Muzammil H. Siddiqi, former President of the Islamic Society of North America, states the following:

There are many theories of evolution. Some of them are acceptable according to Islam, while there are others that are not acceptable. If by evolution one means the development and growth that Allah Almighty has placed in the nature of His creation, then this is acceptable and the Qur'an itself talks about it.

Allah has power to say "Be" and everything will become. But He created the heaven and earth in six days, as mentioned in the Qur'an (Al-A'raf 7:54; Yunus 10:3; Hud 11:7; Al-Furqan 25:59; As-Sajdah 32:4; Qaf 50:38; Al-Hadid 57:4; Al-Mujadilah 58:4).

The word "six days" does not necessarily mean six days of twenty-four hours duration each. It could also mean six periods whose duration is known to Allah alone. The word "day" is used in the Qur'an for various lengths or periods of time. It could mean 24 hours, or one thousand years (Al-Hajj 22:47) or fifty thousand years (Al-Ma`arij 70:4) or even more. However, this process of time does indicate some kind of evolution that was created by Allah and directed by Him.

The theory of evolution that postulates that the whole creation came by itself and nature evolved itself by mutation, selection and fixation, et cetera, is not acceptable in Islam. This is an atheistic theory and it has no sensible rational and logical foundation. Everyone knows that nature has so many possibilities and variables; how could all these variables have selected, mutated and fixed themselves in such a way that an orderly universe came out and continues to exist and flourish?
To say that all these things happened by themselves is nothing but absurd. It is like saying that words collapsed, mutated and then fixed into a wonderful encyclopedia by themselves. Or books mutated themselves and then fixed into a well-organized library. Nothing happened or happens by itself. There is a Creator Who has created everything, whether at once or through the process of growth and development.

Islam also teaches us that human beings are a special creation of Allah. Allah created Adam and his wife Eve (peace and blessings be upon them), and then through them created many men and women. We do not accept the theory (it is important to keep in mind that this is only a theory and not a fact) that says that all living organisms came from matter and man evolved from lower living organisms. There is a link between the human body and other living organisms, but this does not prove that one is evolved from the other.

[black velvet]

Why lol@ playing qur'an? Seriously it works; will make you feel guilty, make you calm, help you sleep... Play Sudais with a beautiful voive like that he'll probably start reciting along with him

[ms.naliaa]

AW:
my brother is not versed as you would say, but he def. knows alot more than I do. Hes not a kid,

Cawar:
me and my brother argue...24/7 about everything, but we always tend to agree to disagree. we just have that relationship and we're pretty close. But religion is something I dont push him about because of what you, i dont want him to find more reasons to be a non-believer.


Isma:
Thanx for that hun.

BV:
I dont know if its gonna work, but ill give it a shot.

[peace-]

Im scared to say this but I think my brother is an athiest.


Might I add....I loath his taste in women

dont think your brother is an athiest he is just going through a transition period, this happens to us all, we all go through periods in life in which we lost faith and question the existence of god. but this a only a face, if your brother is as intelligent as you say he is then he will in time realise that in life nothing comes by chance and indeed this world and everything in is the creation of GOD and that islam is the only way.

and his taste in women that too is just a face, let the man have fun

[ms.naliaa]

dont think your brother is an athiest he is just going through a transition period, this happens to us all, we all go through periods in life in which we lost faith and question the existence of god. but this a only a face, if your brother is as intelligent as you say he is then he will in time realise that in life nothing comes by chance and indeed this world and everything in is the creation of GOD and that islam is the only way.

and his taste in women that too is just a face, let the man have fun

I see where you are coming from, but Im just worried...thats my brother and i luv him.
As for his women.....the most boring ppl I have ever met.

[AbdiWahab252]

Nalia,

BORING AND HOT I suppose

[SummerRain]

I don't understand, what would make a Muslim question ALLAH's powers and go through "this Phase"?

Excuses.... Nalia your bro needs to pick up the qur'an and read atleast a page a day. If you stay away from having a relationship with God, dadka qalbiga aa madobadow, and essentially you become a disbeliever. No jokes dear.