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Law School Scam: More students fewer and fewer jobs!

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http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/ ... ools_N.htm

what the hell... most undergrads start off in the $40k range out of school if they go to work

niccaz spending $100k on school and having debt but landing $40k jobs...

damn that means you have to go to harvard, yale, columbia, ect :lol:
It's the numbers at the top that get all the attention: At the largest law firms, median starting salaries were $145,000 last fall, according to NALP, an organization that tracks law placement.

But many students don't realize at first that the high-paying law firms recruit almost exclusively at institutions ranked in the top 15 or so. Overall, the median salary for new lawyers is $62,000. For public interest law jobs, new lawyers can expect about $40,000.

Meanwhile, the average amount students borrow to attend a private law school surged 25% between 2002 and 2007 to $87,906, ABA figures show. For public law schools, borrowing averages $57,170.

"I think we have this fundamental disconnect between images of lawyers in the popular media, in the courtroom dispensing justice, where everyone seems prosperous and well paid," said William Henderson, an Indiana University-Bloomington law professor who studies the job market. "The reality is for a lot of people, law school is a route to trying to start your own private practice, and that's a very crowded business right now."

Vichet Chan, who received his law degree from Catholic University in Washington, D.C., in 2007 has been looking for work ever since. He recently moved back in with his parents in West Virginia to save money. He owes about $250 a month in interest on student loans. If he gets a job, he will lose his hardship deferral and will owe about $1,000 a month.
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Corporate law all the way homie :up:
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FAH

how long does it take to fully graduate from Law school??
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learning law is a waste of time. first u wont get any job second if you learn law in america then you cant do anything in uk a vice versa because of the different laws and system and somalia there is no LAW
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Xamud. wrote:Corporate law all the way homie :up:
international law is probably better too

but damn, im bewildered wallahi... if you get a job straight out of Uni you are getting in the neighborhood of $40,000 a little more for technical majors but most starting are in this area

now im reading these guys going to school, being in debt $100k and landing $40k jobs after 3 yrs of more school or they can't find a job at all!

50% of law grads in the states are unemployed... its going to rise to 75% in a few years :shock:

snoop, it takes 3 years if you're full time student and about 4 if you're part time

Nomand, who said they are going to Somalia :lol:
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nomand but ur assuming people wana leave and work in countries other then the one they are settled in , the world will always need lawyers :up:
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im just saying as a somali it would be a waste of money and time. because everything you learned in america about law wont mean anything in the international world or even somalia if u want to go there someday.
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Nomand wrote:im just saying as a somali it would be a waste of money and time. because everything you learned in america about law wont mean anything in the international world or even somalia if u want to go there someday.
not really, elements of the sharia are already in the framework of even the constitution of this country

there was a good site that showed the comparisons between the constitution and the Qur'an

Law is more uniformed than you think sxb
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sxb having as many law grads from either USA / UK would be benefitial to somalia , once the country is bc on its feet it will need well educated people to refine and ammend the old laws or even implement a hybrid of shariya and UK/US law
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: you guys are funny

the only law in somalia is alshabaab law.

and in islam there is no such thing as a 'lawyer' there is a judge but no lawyer.

a good lawyer can get you out of murder while a bad lawyer can do the opposite
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The problem is that law schools, obsessed with rankings, have been less than straight with students about what they can expect. Too many stats are self-reported. Henderson's research has found evidence of "massive exaggeration" by law schools when they report what graduates are up to.

The methods that law schools choose to collect salary info just happen to be ones that underreport low earners. The figures for what percentage are employed within nine months often say nothing about whether those graduates are using their law degree. They could be taxi drivers with JDs — and $100,000 of debt.

"If we really started unpacking these numbers," Henderson said in an interview, "we would see some really unattractive accounting how law schools classify their graduates. It would be borderline scandalous."

It's time, he argues, to send in the accountants, to audit what law schools advertise and make sure everyone is reporting numbers the same way. Only then can customers make an informed decision about whether law school will really be a good investment.
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sxb u seem to think ther is only criminal law . coperate law will be fundamental in a new governemnt to control the pundering of resources .

and shabab is another phase somalia is going through :lol:
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Nomand wrote:im just saying as a somali it would be a waste of money and time. because everything you learned in america about law wont mean anything in the international world or even somalia if u want to go there someday.
Hardly, theres globalisation of the world's markets, and what governs business?
Contracts, a lawyer's plaything lol.

Most of the big uk firms have offices based in Hong Kong to Dubai and uk law undergrads can gain placements in any of their offices! It doesn't even matter about a country individual laws, as companies can decide which jurisdiction should govern their contracts.
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Add accountancy to the list. :|
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precious_dyme wrote:Add accountancy to the list. :|

Huh thats nonsense. Trust me Accountancy is one of the few areas in the UK were there is a shortage in terms of graduates vs vacancies. You just made that up lol
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