Italian Somaliland 1950-1960

[Somaliman50]

Filimkaan wuxuu muujinayaa maamulki dowladda Talyaaniga ee Somaliya oo Qaramada Midoobey ku aamintey si Somaaliya loo gaarsiiyo madaxbanaani.

[Warsan_Star_Muslimah]

As much as I hate colonialists, I must admit and highlight that the italians helped in the improvement of the south, at their own gain ofcourse. They provided some sort of public service to the country.

[Somaliman50]

I think Great Britain was more in favour of Somali unity than other Italians during the trusteeship period. They encouraged the administration of Cabdullaahi Ciise (AUN) more than the Italians too.

[Warsan_Star_Muslimah]

Yeah, you are right, they even wanted to Ogaden region to be part of Somalia, but the Americans refused. Subsequently the British gave it to Ethiopia. The Americans wanted to be stationed in Eritrea (perviously part of Ethiopia) and of course it was a strategic location. The Horn of Africa is very close to several important Muslim countries. It is amazing but the Americans thought like that then.

I'm wondering if the Shabaab capture the country, will they be pleased with that? (The Americans in this case) I doubt the whole of Somalia (inc. Somaliland) will be under Shabaab rule. The people in Somaliland have a complete different mentality to those in the South, it is not who is the most powerful that governs them, but who they have chosen or are happy with. Of course maybe if an Issaq led Shabaab capture them they will allow it, but methinks not. Any ways, things will become very ugly. May Allah be with innocent.

[MrPrestige]

Yeah, you are right, they even wanted to Ogaden region to be part of Somalia, but the Americans refused. Subsequently the British gave it to Ethiopia. The Americans wanted to be stationed in Eritrea (perviously part of Ethiopia) and of course it was a strategic location. The Horn of Africa is very close to several important Muslim countries. It is amazing but the Americans thought like that then.

I'm wondering if the Shabaab capture the country, will they be pleased with that? (The Americans in this case) I doubt the whole of Somalia (inc. Somaliland) will be under Shabaab rule. The people in Somaliland have a complete different mentality to those in the South, it is not who is the most powerful that governs them, but who they have chosen or are happy with. Of course maybe if an Issaq led Shabaab capture them they will allow it, but methinks not. Any ways, things will become very ugly. May Allah be with innocent.

trust me isaaqs dont like being bothered by people from other regions - even the likes of top al shabab leaders - ina godane , abu zuber who are isaaq we dont give a toss really - what matters is what the majority of somaliland citizens want - we wont let a few individual ruin our choices -

warsanstar do you favour a united somaliweyn?

[Somaliman50]

Seceeding the Ogaden to Ethiopia was the greatest constitutional miscalculation in our history. The SYL administration led by the honourable Cabdullaahi Ciise (AUN) made several court cases to convince Britain to take the agreement back but they refused. Hence the rivalry with Ethiopia flaring up post independence and during Siad Barre's regime. It failed both diplomatically and militarily. But still, Greater Somalia is in our hearts

As for these latest militia's in Southern Somalia, they don't have the best interests of the population at heart. The Islamic scholars made several requests and demanded that they come to the negotiation table, but clearly they have other aims. But still, it does not mean we, as reer Banaadir, should support the groups against it. Why? We will not and should not settle with the antagonizing groups at each other's throats. None of them, including the TFG gov't, can fulfill long term stability. Therefore i suggest we remain neutral with a watchful eye and see where these groups end up.

[Somaliman50]

Ducaysane, we congratulate our northern brethrens for maintaining peace and prosperity in the past twenty years whilst the rest of the nation was in misery. But we will still continue to respect the agreement between Cabdullaahi Ciise (AUN) and Ibraahim Cigaal (AUN) which was to have a united Somalia.

[Warsan_Star_Muslimah]

Ducaysane, Thats what my aunt said, the people there value their peace a lot, and they don't like fights and outsiders, she said they are people who like the 'Haq' it doesn't matter if you are from their 'Reer' if you are the guilty party, then you are the guilty party.

Yes I favour Somaliwayn, to go forth and backwards to all Somali regions, without having to answer to different governments. Do you want me to get visa for Burco?

Abakar, All I can do is sit back and watch what happens next.

[Somaliman50]

WSM, always be positive my dear. Mogadishu has defeated many historical invasions, imperialism and even dictatorship. In 2006 it managed to overcome anarchy and soon we will overcome extremism. But the biggest war, is the physcological war, the war against Clannism. Insha'allah we will defeat that too.

My aim has always been to take a long drive from Carta (Jabuuti) to Wajeer (in NFD) and see all of Somalia with my own eyes. Soon i'll settle down with my private housing along the Banaadir coast.

[Warsan_Star_Muslimah]

Insha-allah.

That looks like a wicked plan Abakar.... And the best thing about it is to retreat to your dream house and settle down.

[Padishah]

That's actually quite a nice house?

I've been meaning to ask; do Somali's have their own architecture? Voltage?

[MrPrestige]

Ducaysane, Thats what my aunt said, the people there value their peace a lot, and they don't like fights and outsiders, she said they are people who like the 'Haq' it doesn't matter if you are from their 'Reer' if you are the guilty party, then you are the guilty party.

Yes I favour Somaliwayn, to go forth and backwards to all Somali regions, without having to answer to different governments. Do you want me to get visa for Burco?

Abakar, All I can do is sit back and watch what happens next.

you have family in burco somaha then i think they will give you a free pass so no worries - its the likes of addow who will be refused to enter but adiga your welcome anyday

[MrPrestige]

Ducaysane, we congratulate our northern brethrens for maintaining peace and prosperity in the past twenty years whilst the rest of the nation was in misery. But we will still continue to respect the agreement between Cabdullaahi Ciise (AUN) and Ibraahim Cigaal (AUN) which was to have a united Somalia.

Abakar that deal is dead sxb - somalia violated that deal - the government of SNA treated northerns like a peice of garbage - isolated them
the new somaliland generation have no memories of somaliweyn so its really dead -
and remember the indepdence was declared in burco by Tuur AUN and others - if somalia get its acts together bal we will see if its possible - but if the somaliland citizens choose that they dont want it - then thats their choice and road