Jerusalem Post: Why No Viva Somalia
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Jerusalem Post: Why No Viva Somalia
Why no 'Viva Somalia?'
Jan. 7, 2010
, THE JERUSALEM POST
What could be worse than being forgotten in the rubble of war? As The New York Times reported this week, Gazans feel forsaken. The constant flow of humanitarian aid is staving off hunger and disease, but a pall of listlessness besets the Strip.
It is so dreary that B'Tselem, an Israeli-staffed organization that's funded mostly by European governments and American foundations, has distributed video cameras to 18 young people just to get them out and about.
They make really cool videos about all sorts of subjects - such as smuggling laundry detergent through tunnels between Gaza and Sinai; resisting the "occupation" by singing hip hop music; there's also one about a girls' soccer team.
The videos have found their way onto Ynet, a popular Hebrew news Web site.
THERE'S A revealing comparison to be made between the "siege" of Gaza and what is happening in Somalia, where the World Food Program this week was forced to abandon one million tormented people because Islamist gunmen have made it impossible for its staff to operate.
The al-Shabab accuses the WFP of being spies for the infidels and has murdered a number of aid workers. The extremists are enraged that the WFP will not pay protection money. Overall, 3 million Somalis depend on WFP relief, but the plight of 285,000 acutely malnourished children is especially heart-rending.
Naturally, the WFP also operates in the "Occupied Palestinian Territories" - that is, the area where the Palestinians refuse to create a demilitarized state of their own.
The WFP - through no fault of its own - is part of a web of international bodies that is enabling, rather than trying to overcome, dependency among Palestinians. For 60-years-plus, UN agencies have gone along with the Arab world's insistence that their Palestinian brethren remain perpetual refugees.
UNLIKE THE Somalis, the Palestinians have been fortunate in having Zionists for their enemies. How else could they attract celebrity politicians, like MP George Galloway, and superstar campaigners, like the International Solidarity Movement's Hedy Epstein, a hunger-striking 85-year-old lady who "survived" the Holocaust in London where she arrived in 1939 on the kindertransport.
Galloway's "Viva Palestina" procession left London on December 6 and arrived in El-Arish this week. He quickly picked a fight with the Egyptians over how many vehicles could enter Gaza from Sinai. Cops and activists threw sand at each other and fought with sticks.
The "Viva Palestina" spectacle was coordinated with Hamas, which needed a pretext to orchestrate an "intifada" against the anti-smuggling barrier Cairo has belatedly begun installing under the Philadelphi Corridor.
On the Gaza side of the border, Palestinians shot dead an Egyptian guard, as other guards opened fire on Palestinian rioters, critically wounding five.
Late Wednesday, Egypt allowed Galloway and 55 fellow travelers into Gaza, "bandaged, bleeding and bruised… because they tried to bring medicine to … people under siege in Gaza," said the intrepid British parliamentarian.
Too bad that Galloway and Epstein, along with the play-by-play Al-Jazeera coverage they engender, didn't drive their convoy of 150 truck and 500 international activists - self-satisfied Europeans, mostly, but also 17 Turkish legislators - straight to Somalia to face down the al-Shabab.
THE DIFFERENCE between Somalia and Gaza is that the people of Somalia are not only forgotten in the rubble, their desperation is… simply not interesting.
They are people without options.
Those responsible for their plight are Islamists, not Zionists or Westerners - though, for the Euro-Left, it's all America's fault somehow.
In stark contrast, the people of Gaza do have options that would end their misery.
They could stop supporting Hamas, which has mobilized their polity against coexistence with Israel; they could make peace among themselves and allow the comparatively moderate West Bank Palestinian leadership - which is recognized by the international community - back into the Strip. They could free IDF soldier Gilad Schalit whom they kidnapped in 2006. They could stop launching mortars against Israel's civilian population, as they repeatedly did this week. They could choose a two-state solution and accept that Jews also have a right to a homeland. They could end the "siege."
They could build instead of reveling in the rubble and in their victimization.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? ... 2FShowFull
Jan. 7, 2010
, THE JERUSALEM POST
What could be worse than being forgotten in the rubble of war? As The New York Times reported this week, Gazans feel forsaken. The constant flow of humanitarian aid is staving off hunger and disease, but a pall of listlessness besets the Strip.
It is so dreary that B'Tselem, an Israeli-staffed organization that's funded mostly by European governments and American foundations, has distributed video cameras to 18 young people just to get them out and about.
They make really cool videos about all sorts of subjects - such as smuggling laundry detergent through tunnels between Gaza and Sinai; resisting the "occupation" by singing hip hop music; there's also one about a girls' soccer team.
The videos have found their way onto Ynet, a popular Hebrew news Web site.
THERE'S A revealing comparison to be made between the "siege" of Gaza and what is happening in Somalia, where the World Food Program this week was forced to abandon one million tormented people because Islamist gunmen have made it impossible for its staff to operate.
The al-Shabab accuses the WFP of being spies for the infidels and has murdered a number of aid workers. The extremists are enraged that the WFP will not pay protection money. Overall, 3 million Somalis depend on WFP relief, but the plight of 285,000 acutely malnourished children is especially heart-rending.
Naturally, the WFP also operates in the "Occupied Palestinian Territories" - that is, the area where the Palestinians refuse to create a demilitarized state of their own.
The WFP - through no fault of its own - is part of a web of international bodies that is enabling, rather than trying to overcome, dependency among Palestinians. For 60-years-plus, UN agencies have gone along with the Arab world's insistence that their Palestinian brethren remain perpetual refugees.
UNLIKE THE Somalis, the Palestinians have been fortunate in having Zionists for their enemies. How else could they attract celebrity politicians, like MP George Galloway, and superstar campaigners, like the International Solidarity Movement's Hedy Epstein, a hunger-striking 85-year-old lady who "survived" the Holocaust in London where she arrived in 1939 on the kindertransport.
Galloway's "Viva Palestina" procession left London on December 6 and arrived in El-Arish this week. He quickly picked a fight with the Egyptians over how many vehicles could enter Gaza from Sinai. Cops and activists threw sand at each other and fought with sticks.
The "Viva Palestina" spectacle was coordinated with Hamas, which needed a pretext to orchestrate an "intifada" against the anti-smuggling barrier Cairo has belatedly begun installing under the Philadelphi Corridor.
On the Gaza side of the border, Palestinians shot dead an Egyptian guard, as other guards opened fire on Palestinian rioters, critically wounding five.
Late Wednesday, Egypt allowed Galloway and 55 fellow travelers into Gaza, "bandaged, bleeding and bruised… because they tried to bring medicine to … people under siege in Gaza," said the intrepid British parliamentarian.
Too bad that Galloway and Epstein, along with the play-by-play Al-Jazeera coverage they engender, didn't drive their convoy of 150 truck and 500 international activists - self-satisfied Europeans, mostly, but also 17 Turkish legislators - straight to Somalia to face down the al-Shabab.
THE DIFFERENCE between Somalia and Gaza is that the people of Somalia are not only forgotten in the rubble, their desperation is… simply not interesting.
They are people without options.
Those responsible for their plight are Islamists, not Zionists or Westerners - though, for the Euro-Left, it's all America's fault somehow.
In stark contrast, the people of Gaza do have options that would end their misery.
They could stop supporting Hamas, which has mobilized their polity against coexistence with Israel; they could make peace among themselves and allow the comparatively moderate West Bank Palestinian leadership - which is recognized by the international community - back into the Strip. They could free IDF soldier Gilad Schalit whom they kidnapped in 2006. They could stop launching mortars against Israel's civilian population, as they repeatedly did this week. They could choose a two-state solution and accept that Jews also have a right to a homeland. They could end the "siege."
They could build instead of reveling in the rubble and in their victimization.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? ... 2FShowFull
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Re: Jerusalem Post: Why No Viva Somalia
The difference is Somalia is undergoing an internal civil war while Palestine has been undergoing 60 years of occupation and slow genocide.
We really do have a short memory.
The U.S did try to help. President Bush did visit Somalia, so did Christiane Amanpour, Dan Rather, and heck most of the world's media along with a lot of the world's celebrities including old timers such as Katherine Hepburn. You can't help people that don't want to help themselves.
It is also ironic that you Abdiwahab who supported the warlord who starved thousands of fellow Somalis, used food ships as political tool, and then became the primary manhunt by both your adopted country now (USA) and the U.N can now sit before us and feign some sort of compassion for the masses of Somalia.
Somalia is simply not interesting to the world because after 20 years, after thousands and thousands of American and U.N troops, after probably billions of dollars of humanitarian aid, after 16 government attempts the world realizes you can't help the homeless man who does not want to get up.
Somalia has gotten more help than many other nations in civil war to get out of it. Blame the fact it does not want to get out because of many reasons, especially tribalism something which is a central piece of your political outlook as you make part of your holy trinity, "tolka" or clansmen/tribe.
Somalia is that homeless man that does not want to get help while Palestine is that handicapped man that is yearning for prostethic limbs.
Comparison of apples and oranges.
We really do have a short memory.
The U.S did try to help. President Bush did visit Somalia, so did Christiane Amanpour, Dan Rather, and heck most of the world's media along with a lot of the world's celebrities including old timers such as Katherine Hepburn. You can't help people that don't want to help themselves.
It is also ironic that you Abdiwahab who supported the warlord who starved thousands of fellow Somalis, used food ships as political tool, and then became the primary manhunt by both your adopted country now (USA) and the U.N can now sit before us and feign some sort of compassion for the masses of Somalia.
Somalia is simply not interesting to the world because after 20 years, after thousands and thousands of American and U.N troops, after probably billions of dollars of humanitarian aid, after 16 government attempts the world realizes you can't help the homeless man who does not want to get up.
Somalia has gotten more help than many other nations in civil war to get out of it. Blame the fact it does not want to get out because of many reasons, especially tribalism something which is a central piece of your political outlook as you make part of your holy trinity, "tolka" or clansmen/tribe.
Somalia is that homeless man that does not want to get help while Palestine is that handicapped man that is yearning for prostethic limbs.
Comparison of apples and oranges.
Last edited by Voltage on Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:39 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Re: Jerusalem Post: Why No Viva Somalia
Amazing article, and many true points, don't care who wrote it. Gaza is in a much better situation than Somalia. Heck look at the place.

Bring Me one Somali city that looks like that

Bring Me one Somali city that looks like that
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Re: Jerusalem Post: Why No Viva Somalia
Murax wrote:Amazing article, and many true points, don't care who wrote it. Gaza is in a much better situation than Somalia. Heck look at the place.
Bring Me one Somali city that looks like that
Beautifull . not even Djibouti comes close
Re: Jerusalem Post: Why No Viva Somalia
Voltage,
Kudos to You at pointing out How A/Wahab whistfully speaks about the mooryaan inspired destruction of the State, yet Has the audacity to cry crocadile tears at its demise
Kudos to You at pointing out How A/Wahab whistfully speaks about the mooryaan inspired destruction of the State, yet Has the audacity to cry crocadile tears at its demise
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Re: Jerusalem Post: Why No Viva Somalia
Carabtu waxay yiraahdeen Falastiin cadowgeedu (yahuuda) yaan loo jabin. The Saudis probably do more infrastructural investment in Gaza then they do in Saudi! 
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Re: Jerusalem Post: Why No Viva Somalia
Palestine is more developed than 99% of Africa. This is why I spit on those that whine and bitch about Plyshitin
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Re: Jerusalem Post: Why No Viva Somalia
Dee it's just big hypocrisy, both him and that author of that propaganda piece.Murax wrote:Voltage,
Kudos to You at pointing out How A/Wahab whistfully speaks about the mooryaan inspired destruction of the State, yet Has the audacity to cry crocadile tears at its demise
You can't compare apple to an orange and Somalia and Palestine are apples and oranges.
Nin is dilay iyo nin la dilaya isku mid maaha.
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Re: Jerusalem Post: Why No Viva Somalia
Unlike nappy-headed darkies, Palestine is in its current predicament because of occupation. If Africans wanna kill each other over tribal colors in drive-bys and civil wars, good for them.
Palestine's situation is a human story, Africans are barely human, that's why the world can't relate.
Palestine's situation is a human story, Africans are barely human, that's why the world can't relate.
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Re: Jerusalem Post: Why No Viva Somalia
paidmonk wrote:Unlike nappy-headed darkies, Palestine is in its current predicament because of occupation. If Africans wanna kill each other over tribal colors in drive-bys and civil wars, good for them.
Palestine's situation is a human story, Africans are barely human, that's why the world can't relate.
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Re: Jerusalem Post: Why No Viva Somalia
Tell it like it is brother! If we can't be honest with ourselves who is going to be honest with us?paidmonk wrote:Unlike nappy-headed darkies, Palestine is in its current predicament because of occupation. If Africans wanna kill each other over tribal colors in drive-bys and civil wars, good for them.
Palestine's situation is a human story, Africans are barely human, that's why the world can't relate.
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Re: Jerusalem Post: Why No Viva Somalia
extremely low and distasteful to use the sufferings of somalis as propaganda to target those few braves ones who dare to oppose the jewish holocaust against the poor and abandoned palestinians.
but then again, this is a jewish newspaper, so we shouldn't be surprised at the moral depravity of the jews anymore.
but then again, this is a jewish newspaper, so we shouldn't be surprised at the moral depravity of the jews anymore.
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Re: Jerusalem Post: Why No Viva Somalia
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMALIA AND PALESTINE:
Somalis being Occupied by their Own:

Palestinians being Occupied from the Outside:

Somalis being Occupied by their Own:

Palestinians being Occupied from the Outside:

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Re: Jerusalem Post: Why No Viva Somalia
Jaberti boyz and their selective historical bias just like their Falastin kinfolk 
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Re: Jerusalem Post: Why No Viva Somalia
Thats a bit harsh mate. Considering they've lost 80% of Palestine proper and most of them are in refugee camps outside palestine and the reminders are harassed and abused by the occupying Israeli forces. What could they have ever done to you for you to hate them. Are you hating them for being unlucky victims of jewish colonization?Twisted_Logic wrote:Palestine is more developed than 99% of Africa. This is why I spit on those that whine and bitch about Plyshitin
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