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Israel: an apartheid state?

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BISHOP DESMOND TUTU, the South African Nobel Prize winner, described how he saw on his visit to Israel "much like what happened to us black people in South Africa. I have seen the humiliation of the Palestinians at checkpoints and roadblocks, suffering like us when young white police officers prevented us from moving about" (1). Comparisons between apartheid South Africa and Israel/Palestine have often been made, but not always clearly explained. Many factors have made the comparison attractive.

The first, perhaps most important, is the historical colonialist foundation of the two conflicts. White settlers in South Africa, like Zionist pioneers, colonised a land already inhabited. As in South Africa, the settlers in Palestine expelled the indigenous population, some two-thirds of the Palestinians in the land that became Israel in 1948, took possession of their properties and legally segregated those who remained.

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Re: Israel: an apartheid state?

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People have been saying this for years in the west, this is why I am against the two state solution, it's the same as the Bantustans.

Palestinians should have the same rights as Israelis and should be allowed to return to their villages in Israel. Israel-Palestine.
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Re: Israel: an apartheid state?

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James Dahl wrote:People have been saying this for years in the west, this is why I am against the two state solution, it's the same as the Bantustans.

Palestinians should have the same rights as Israelis and should be allowed to return to their villages in Israel. Israel-Palestine.
I will only agree to this if the state is renamed PALESTINE (FALISTIIN) as it was originally and also Hamaz to represent the people of Gaza in the kanesit.

do you think the Israelis will agree to this???
that is why this conflict is never ending unless the two state solution is pursued
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Re: Israel: an apartheid state?

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James the two state solution is no longer viable realy,unless the Zionists withdraw to pre 1967 boarders and I can't see that happening with all the new settlements.So yeah I agree it should be one state with both Jews and Arabs.Somthing along the lines of South Africa.
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i dont see israelis beign comfortable with Hamaz(the democratically elected voice of the people of Gaza) sitting in the parliament let alone govern the country. as the ANC was in south africa
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Re: Israel: an apartheid state?

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Countries get the rebel groups they deserve.

People who aren't oppressed and screwed over don't usually rise up and try and kill you.
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Re: Israel: an apartheid state?

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People who aren't oppressed and screwed over don't usually rise up and try and kill you.
True and to the point,Hamas came about because of the brutal oppression by the Zionsts murderrs

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The father pleads "Don't shoot" while the terrified son hides. Father tries to shield his son from the bullets, and to look for an escape.

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But the brutal Israelis open fire. .The son is shot dead while in his fathers lap. The father is critically wounded.
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