Reer Ogadenia and Reer ONLF I have a question

[RuralMan08]

Forgive me, I am quite ignorant of the affairs of Ogadenia hence I have two questions.

1. Halganka onlf is it be independent from the Xabashis and then to join with Somalia or is it to become a completely independent state?

2. Are you fighting for the lands only settled by Ogadeni clans or for the whole Kilinka shanaad? It the answer is only Kilinka shanaad, then how will you react if other Somali clans dont want to be part of a new country called Ogadenia or be part of your new country?


Waad mahadsantihiin

[Teeri]

Forgive me, I am quite ignorant of the affairs of Ogadenia hence I have two questions.

1. Halganka onlf is it be independent from the Xabashis and then to join with Somalia or is it to become a completely independent state?

2. Are you fighting for the lands only settled by Ogadeni clans or for the whole Kilinka shanaad? It the answer is only Kilinka shanaad, then how will you react if other Somali clans dont want to be part of a new country called Ogadenia or be part of your new country?


Waad mahadsantihiin

The poeple in the Ogaden want self determination with their political, social and economic frame work. I am sure you already know why we want self determination of our lifes and lands!

We didnt wake up one day and decide to name the Region, it is the officially recognised name by the United Nations and the colonial powers. A refrendum can be held after self determination inshallah, it can be named whatever the residents agree on!

If other somali dont want to be part of future self governing Ogadeniya, then the have the self right to decide what they wish. However, i do wish to focus on your assumption of ''other clans'' want to opt out. if you think ONLF is run only by OGs, think again. there are idoors, obviously other absames, Dir etc. This talk of ''other clans'' is one fueled by emotional, envious somali based clans/tribes and the habashis.

are we gona be part of somalia? are we really in a postion to talk of such far fetch frame works??. this is not the equivalent of moldova joining the EU sxb. Somalia is in need of sorting herself first. I can only speak personally for my opinions. If somalia is peaceful when Ogadeniya is self governing, i would prefer complete free trade with them and to ''hand'' our selfs over completely to a future stable somali state, again depends on the residents!

[snoop12]

Rural let me answer those questions.

1. the ONLF is a tribal entity that is not happy to be enslaved for over a century, it has no real objective other than fighting those who enslaved their people for so long, and if they did get their freedom Somalia doesn't exist anymore so they will probably be eligitimate nation or a lawless piece of land like some parts of Somalia.

2. yes they are fighting for land they settle, but also land they stole and want to steal from other Somali clans in the region. they know how to react to Somalis and they are already doing it by using a group called New police and even sometimes ONLF themselves get involved and kill Somalis in cold blood so to uproot them, most Somalis have already done this since their clan actually live inside Somalia so they just take the easy way. Dhulbahante, Bicidyahan, Marexan, other Darood, and Isaaq do this since they have land on the other side of the border. there is ofcourse also retaliation but population usually pick the easy way since they have spare land.

[snoop12]

Rural you need to understand the history and geographics of this region before questioning. the whole region is not heavily dominated by Xabashi, it is mostly the tribes who are weak and also have cheap leaders that end up being abused. even before the british supported the Xabashi this region was like that, the tribe that had most in fighting and bad leadership was Ogaden. the MArexan who settle in the region from Wal waal to Shilaabo to Wardheer to Caabudwaaq to Beledweyn were never colonised by Xabashi, even today the Xabashi's involvement in our land is minor and they take great precousions when passing through.

what does this mean ? it means the Land Ogaden people settle has most fighting because their leader are cheap and on the one hand give in and on the other hand fight, the inconsisten attitude is why they are the only tribe to be enslaved for such a long time.

now you know a little truth, you can draw the line in the sand. you know ONLF is fighting in Ogaden area against the Xabashi who heavily abuse the Ogadens in the same Ogaden area.

[RuralMan08]

Teeri ok now Im beginning to understand, so if other Somali clans like the cisse for example said we dont want anything to do with an independent Ogadenia, we would rather join Djibouti then in that case its up to the residents ok cool!

Snoop you have mentioned something interesting. I have heard of many facts about many clans that the Xabashis dont even try to bother like the ciise and gadabursi. However, perhaps thats because Ogaden are very big and with size comes problems because you can set one group or subclan against another?

What do you guys think?

[snoop12]

Ogaden are numerous, but lets not kid ourselves, people mostly get the assumption that ogaden is millions just because people assume all those Daroods are Ogaden, but the fact is many of them are Sade and other Absame who are not Ogaden.

but the fact that they are many doesnt help them, big balls is what makes the Xabashi scary, in from since the British supported the Xabashi they have owned Ogadenis but they owned not the other half of the region settled by Marexan mostly. in 1923 the Xabashi tried to enter Marexan land and they payed a huge price, again in 1939 they were spotted by Marexan and this clash not only beat them at the battle but ended the ceasefire and started the Abbysinia-italia war across the whole region.

the man who started this was my uncle a Rer Dalal, who recieved a prestige medal given to the best Austrian snipers, the italians were amazed by his skill and even took the tree he had climbed with them as Relic.

bro you need to learn, Marexan are extremely respectful of enemies but when it comes to war we destroy them, what started off the war was the fact that my uncle could not stand looking at the Xabashi eating the raw meat nearby our land.

[RuralMan08]

Ogaden are numerous, but lets not kid ourselves, people mostly get the assumption that ogaden is millions just because people assume all those Daroods are Ogaden, but the fact is many of them are Sade and other Absame who are not Ogaden.

but the fact that they are many doesnt help them, big balls is what makes the Xabashi scary, in from since the British supported the Xabashi they have owned Ogadenis but they owned not the other half of the region settled by Marexan mostly. in 1923 the Xabashi tried to enter Marexan land and they payed a huge price, again in 1939 they were spotted by Marexan and this clash not only beat them at the battle but ended the ceasefire and started the Abbysinia-italia war across the whole region.

the man who started this was my uncle a Rer Dalal, who recieved a prestige medal given to the best Austrian snipers, the italians were amazed by his skill and even took the tree he had climbed with them as Relic.

bro you need to learn, Marexan are extremely respectful of enemies but when it comes to war we destroy them, what started off the war was the fact that my uncle could not stand looking at the Xabashi eating the raw meat nearby our land.

Mareexaan are the Mujahideen of the Somalis, only a foolish man would somehow claim otherwise. We Somalis have not forgotten how you trampled upon the enemies and made the oromos evacuate all of Southern Somalia

Mareexaan are by far the greatest Darood clan in my view along with Dhulbahante and Ogaden.

Mareexaan

[EEGA9]

This section is getting flooded with handicap people man.

[Teeri]

What a shame, and i thought u were grown ups that can have a serious debate. marehan Cuqdad wont work sbx, grow up snoop!!

[RuralMan08]

What a shame, and i thought u were grown ups that can have a serious debate. marehan Cuqdad wont work sbx, grow up snoop!!

I apologise I got carried away by Marexaan fever lool.

This question should only be answered by the OG's! Ignore the previous comments but you answered it anyway

[snoop12]

its not cuqdad but a history lesson. how can i have cuqdad against a people who are enslaved before they even were a real tribe loooool houndred of years bisinka. its like having cuqdad against a hobo, dude i just feel sorry if anything.

instead of accusing me of something out of the blue, explain your frustration to the young man who asked decent questions.

[EEGA9]

Teeri Sheeka caruureedka iskaga dhex bax...ha isku mashquulin qoraalka dadka ka xanuunsada magaca ogadeen.