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Ethnic Federalism in Ethiopia

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Let’s talk Ethnic Federalism in Ethiopia.I want to discuss a few things about this policy.

Firstly, for those don’t know about ethnic federalism. It is quite simple really. Every region has its own official language and with Amharic as official working language. Basically, schools are able to teach their native language and culture.

Ethiopia historically has also been a heavily centralized state with constant Amhara domination since its inception. This policy has made Ethiopia more divided than ever along ethnic lines and helps TPLF consolidate power through the divide and conquer rule. The main opponents as you guessed are Amhara who are the strongest opposition to the TPLF. They want to reassert their political and cultural dominance, however with this piece of legislation has practically killed any chance of an Amhara revival. This policy has also increased Oromo nationalism which is another hurdle Amhara would have to get over for any chance of coming back into power.

You can think of it in a way, that this policy is keeping TPLF/Meles in power. Simple divide and conquer rule.

I was just like to get the opinion on Ethnic federalism by Oromo and Ogadeni poster? What are their views on this?
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Re: Ethnic Federalism in Ethiopia

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Also would you support this policy in Somalia?

We should have Awdal State, Somaliland, SSC, Puntland, Galmudug,Hiiran state, Jubbaland and other states. Like in Ethiopia, the state with numerous ethnicity like in the Southern Nations, Nationalities, and People's Region which could be compared to some regions of South Somalia. Somali becomes the working and official language

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Maay region would have its own state. And the other smaller languages would form one bloc.

Centralized power will never work in Somalia, but decentralized state would function perfectly. It would basically kill off all the inferiority and superiority complex in the Somali tribes. It will stop the ancient old Darood rule. It help will stop Issaq thinking Darood is out to get them and Hawiye can govern itself,
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Re: Ethnic Federalism in Ethiopia

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Whether or not Somalis like it, there is going to be federalism based on clan lines. I personally dont like it but thats the way its heading anyway.
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Re: Ethnic Federalism in Ethiopia

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RuralMan08 wrote:Whether or not Somalis like it, there is going to be federalism based on clan lines. I personally dont like it but thats the way its heading anyway.
Personally, I like it and fully endorse it. We finally disagree :D
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Re: Ethnic Federalism in Ethiopia

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Qubbato wrote:That’s not possible in Somalia Somalis are not ethnic groups but rather subclans or tribes Somalia will always have a darood president or prime minister that’s a fact regional and clan borders will only divide the country even further there is need for more unity. So I am not for any clan borders.
But the reality of the ground is different now. There are people who haven’t lived under a government and only know tribal rule. It has worked in Ethiopia and should work in Somalia. If there is any sub clan problems, it up to the elders to resolve the problem not the government.

Tribal Federalism for Somalia :up:
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Re: Ethnic Federalism in Ethiopia

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Qubbato wrote:That’s not possible in Somalia Somalis are not ethnic groups but rather subclans or tribes Somalia will always have a darood president or prime minister that’s a fact regional and clan borders will only divide the country even further there is need for more unity. So I am not for any clan borders.

That's part of the problem, Somalia will never move forward as long as people think like that, elect a man based on what he is capable of not his qabiil haven't the last 20 years taught you anything? :lol: I personally do not care what the presidents clan is but the fact that young people like you think like that makes me think does Somalia have a future....?
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Re: Ethnic Federalism in Ethiopia

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It's still a Somali problem, the sooner you realize that the better. At the end of the day I am a Somali and seeing Somalia the way it is still bothers some of us I would like to think.
btw please refrain from insults I am not stinky nor do I like seeing Somalia divided but sometimes you just have to let go..... :lol:
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Re: Ethnic Federalism in Ethiopia

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I love the idea of Somaliwayn but the reality is we will never get there with our current strategy which is a “top-bottom approach”. NO Somali needs a bottom-top approach. Every region does their shite and then come together. Here in Australia every state controlled themselves then came together as a nation later on and not the other way round.

So yea to have a Somaliwayn success we need to fix each and every region by their clans. I hate how clan has been used in Somali the last 20 years but maybe that’s the only way we can united cos how much Somalis rely on "clan royalty". Clan has been the problem and it could be the solution as well.
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Re: Ethnic Federalism in Ethiopia

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Ethnic Federalism is nothing in Ethiopia but a blanket for Tigray dominance.They control all aspects of Politics and only through there endorsements can any other Ethnicity gain a position of authority.All you have is a coalition of weak parties allegedly elected who are used by the TPLF for there own Political purposes.For ex the Somali region the SPDP is a sattelite organisation used by the TPLF after pushing out the ONLF, they discard members as they please and elect as they please.The TPLF exiled and jailed all the true representatives of the ethnic groups during the transitional period.Its clearly a dictatorship.

The real question is, If there is Ethnic Federalism in Ethiopia why is Tigray in power? there only 6% or less of the population.

This emphasis on clan and Ethnicity wont work.Perhaps for a short period but eventually interests will collide and there will be no central authority unless you have control like the TPLF.
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Re: Ethnic Federalism in Ethiopia

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Samatr, don't waste your time with this qubatto character wa qof xanuusan haven't you seen her countless hate threads in slands section?
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