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What would the Horn of Africa look like if....

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the union between North and South didn't happen in 1960

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Look at djibouti. There is the answer.

A insignificant country ruled by bigger countries for the sake of our strategic location and port.
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Coeus wrote:Look at djibouti. There is the answer.

A insignificant coutnry ruled by bigger countries for the sake of our strategic location and port.
Djibouti is insignificant by default, a small area with a popualtion of 800k

North or South would deffo not be in the state Djibouti is in now imo.
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Can you imagine us Hawiye without Jaad ?
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Re: What would the Horn of Africa look like if....

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DatBreh wrote:
Coeus wrote:Look at djibouti. There is the answer.

A insignificant coutnry ruled by bigger countries for the sake of our strategic location and port.
Djibouti is insignificant by default, a small area with a popualtion of 800k

North or South would deffo not be in the state Djibouti is in now imo.
Saaxib we would still be insignifant. Without unity we would have any purpose. Our strive for unity with all areas that Somalis reside in, made it possible for us to aspire someday to become a superpower.

Ogaden,NFD,Italian Somaliland,British Somaliland,French Somaliland, Socotra.

We would have so many Resources and such big power in the horn. Even if Djibouti is closed door for us now. Ogaden,Socotra and even NFD is still possible :up: More land= Bigger wealth= Bigger economy
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Somaliland wouldve been the greatest country in the horn our fathers from the 60s made the biggest mistake if only SNL Cigaals party wouldve lost the elections and Micheal mariano could win the elections and his NUF party today Somaliland would be a recognized country :up:
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You would have take many variables into consideration between 1960-1991.

Primary
-Cold war and the enfluence of USA and USSR.

One possible path could have been that British.somaliland sided with the USA and Italian.Somaliland sided with the USSR. The two countries could have been used as proxy agents and encouraged into a war.

The main benefit of the two countries backing different powers would have been their leverage/bargaining power to extract greater funds and assistance with development and technology. similar to that seen in korea perhabs.

We will never know, however neither success nor failure of states would have been a shared experience past 20 years is evidence of a shared experience.

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The_Emperior5 wrote:Somaliland wouldve been the greatest country in the horn our fathers from the 60s made the biggest mistake if only SNL Cigaals party wouldve lost the elections and Micheal mariano could win the elections and his NUF party today Somaliland would be a recognized country :up:
Saaxib, due to the british minimal invovment in North Somalia, there was almost no infrastructure in hargeisa and other towns.
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Coeus wrote:
DatBreh wrote:
Coeus wrote:Look at djibouti. There is the answer.

A insignificant coutnry ruled by bigger countries for the sake of our strategic location and port.
Djibouti is insignificant by default, a small area with a popualtion of 800k

North or South would deffo not be in the state Djibouti is in now imo.
Saaxib we would still be insignifant. Without unity we would have any purpose. Our strive for unity with all areas that Somalis reside in, made it possible for us to aspire someday to become a superpower.

Ogaden,NFD,Italian Somaliland,British Somaliland,French Somaliland, Socotra.

We would have so many Resources and such big power in the horn. Even if Djibouti is closed door for us now. Ogaden,Socotra and even NFD is still possible :up: More land= Bigger wealth= Bigger economy
ragedi :up:

the somalis are the natural hegemons of east africa in time of war and peace
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WHAT IF

WHAT IF

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Re: What would the Horn of Africa look like if....

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Coeus wrote:
DatBreh wrote:
Coeus wrote:Look at djibouti. There is the answer.

A insignificant coutnry ruled by bigger countries for the sake of our strategic location and port.
Djibouti is insignificant by default, a small area with a popualtion of 800k

North or South would deffo not be in the state Djibouti is in now imo.
Saaxib we would still be insignifant. Without unity we would have any purpose. Our strive for unity with all areas that Somalis reside in, made it possible for us to aspire someday to become a superpower.

Ogaden,NFD,Italian Somaliland,British Somaliland,French Somaliland, Socotra.

We would have so many Resources and such big power in the horn. Even if Djibouti is closed door for us now. Ogaden,Socotra and even NFD is still possible :up: More land= Bigger wealth= Bigger economy
The last 40years has shown that 2 of the 5 Somali regions cannot coexist so thinking of what Greater Somalia can achieve is futile in my eyes, it would be great though.
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Re: What would the Horn of Africa look like if....

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North would be like Eritrea since it has more resources than Djibouti to begin with, but it would obviously have a limited economy based on minerals alone. South would probably be like Tanzania; huge metropolitan Xamar plus some oil and mineral wealth.
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Re: What would the Horn of Africa look like if....

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Coeus wrote:
The_Emperior5 wrote:Somaliland wouldve been the greatest country in the horn our fathers from the 60s made the biggest mistake if only SNL Cigaals party wouldve lost the elections and Micheal mariano could win the elections and his NUF party today Somaliland would be a recognized country :up:
Saaxib, due to the british minimal invovment in North Somalia, there was almost no infrastructure in hargeisa and other towns.

in our 30 years of fighting for independence we could´ve build that our selfs man :up:
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Re: What would the Horn of Africa look like if....

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