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Gara Man's theory on Cushites(Theorist Welcome)

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I been thinking about this recently and thought how come the common suffix of names such "Somali", "Danakali, "Adali", "Ankali", or even "Warsangali" all end the same?
Like really there all the same but why is that? is there a classification of people by another people, or is it something else? If you want my opinion on the matter i think( a bit controversial) the suffix "Ali" is equivelent to "Galla". I think this is what people were called a long time ago in the Somali Peninsula and surronding areas by others. Galla is an ancient term and the name could possibly predate even the ignorant beduin arabs in mecca conversion to Islam.When i mentioned Cushites i was refering to members of the afro-asiatic classification. I know people might not agree with this but this a theory of mine and believe everything Galla is Oromo but i must remind people there is no oromo clan with "Gal" in its name and there is no Oromo clan with "waq" in its name but there are Somali :?:

Also the one"Ali" that stands out to me is "Adali". At first I came with the conclusion that Ad-ali that probaly consited of today countires of Somalia,Djbouti, Eastern Ethiopia(Haraghe and Ogaden), and maybe some parts of Eritrea and believe it consisted prior to the Abyssinian-Adal wars. Adal/Ad-ali could possibly be infact Al 'Ad, as you know as Muslims the people of 'Ad described in the Quran. Because in the afar language adjective comes before the noun Al Ad would be Adal and probaly the "i" was in the end was afar curroption of the arabic language. But i realized some hundreds kilometers north of Dire Dawa comes a place called addagalla an issa inhabited land which can roughly translate to white galla or white camel and which lacks any hard evidence that it was ever an Oromo settlement.
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Im not a "cushite" Im Somali. :som:
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In this case cushitic can translate to somali.
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wtf is Cushites :| :?
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I have a theory about SOmali origins. But I don't have the balls to publish. You see, it could endanger many lives.
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Okay i get it you dont like the name in the title but if you disagree then give a suggestion if not focus on the matter at hand! :arrow:
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The real problem for me is when i see the inhabitants of Socotra island... isolated genetically and they are of pure Bantu stock.

Cushitics ro what ever we label all modern horn of africa inhabitants either they are mix blood or have migrated from north africa.
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Very interesting read however the correct opinion is that all these East African tribes were one united ethnic body that split apart roughly around a 1000 years ago. I do not like to use the term "Cushitic" because it is a language classification tool and does not denote racial or ethnic origins. Gara there is no doubt that the Eastern Galla are older and of a more ancient type than the Somalis. Most of the land that is occupied by the Somali tribes in Eastern Ethiopia shows names with Oromo origin, just to name a few in Awdal itself:

Borama (Founded by Shaykh Rooble Boorama who was Akishe)

Jaarahoroto (Jara - King of the Galla and his wife Horoto the Queen)

Halimale

Accross the border in Harawo Region there is Galla Geri and many more I cannot remember right now.
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I have my own theory. The Somali ethnic group originated somewhere between Sanaag-Hawd-Mudug. This was the homeland of the original Somalis. As they expanded Westwards and Southwards they encountered strange Cushites who they assimilated (present day Isaaq and South people), hence why South area today and Northwest Somalia retained forms of their old language which is visible in their dialect of Somali.
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All you did was say "I think". Besides Oromo do not call themselves Galla...Somalis did and then the Ethiopians plaigarized. Oromo have never called themselves that word and you gave no evidence for why you "think" Ali means Galla or gave any substantial evidence to say why you think Oromo might have at any point called themselves Galla.

Also, Somalis never called themselves "Somali" until the colonialists. Even in poetry, prose, and modern literatue they call themselves Soomaalay.

FInally the classification of "Cushitic" or "Cushite" people is by language and even in language proto-Cushite, not proto-Oromo...don't know where you get the precedence of Oromo and succeeding of the other Cushitic peoples are. They are equal in development and separation from proto-Cushite. If you look at the Iranian language of Farsi (Persi), or Pashtun, or Daro, or Tajiki...etc they all come from proto-Iranian which means they separated from the Iranians. This is not the case with the Cushites who developed independently from each other.
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AbuDujanah wrote:Very interesting read however the correct opinion is that all these East African tribes were one united ethnic body that split apart roughly around a 1000 years ago. I do not like to use the term "Cushitic" because it is a language classification tool and does not denote racial or ethnic origins. Gara there is no doubt that the Eastern Galla are older and of a more ancient type than the Somalis. Most of the land that is occupied by the Somali tribes in Eastern Ethiopia shows names with Oromo origin, just to name a few in Awdal itself:

Borama (Founded by Shaykh Rooble Boorama who was Akishe)

Jaarahoroto (Jara - King of the Galla and his wife Horoto the Queen)

Halimale

Accross the border in Harawo Region there is Galla Geri and many more I cannot remember right now.
Listen first no harar Oromo refers themselves as eastern galla and second what makes you think the early inhabitants of those lands were not somali. Okay i understand the name of places might have a oromo origin(some others you havent named are more correctly close to Oromo) but that doesnt mean somalis were not included.

Some of the white travellers who went through those eastern lands believed that the somalis and Oromos of this region were somehow related.
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GaajoUnit wrote:I have a theory about SOmali origins. But I don't have the balls to publish. You see, it could endanger many lives.
Please Gaajounit dont be timid discuss :!:
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First of all this is a theory of mine not established fact nor has sany particular study been focused on this. Okay with that out of the way let me respond to what you wrote.
Besides Oromo do not call themselves Galla...Somalis did and then the Ethiopians plaigarized.Oromo have never called themselves that word and you gave no evidence for why you "think" Ali means Galla or gave any substantial evidence to say why you think Oromo might have at any point called themselves Galla.
Let me tell go dig on the word Galla, it can be found anciently present in many places across the globe. Also i have never said Oromos called themselves galla it was given to us like you said. but please tel me why somalis have Gal and waq in their tribe names? The suffix of "Ali" seems it is a curruptive Galla.
Also, Somalis never called themselves "Somali" until the colonialists. Even in poetry, prose, and modern literatue they call themselves Soomaalay.
Look back at what i said... i gave nod to might be a classifcation of another people to somalis not what you guys refered to yourselves. Just like oromos didnt call themselves galla as somalis whould not call themselve "Som-Galla".

And I understand people do not like the term "Cushitic" so i guess they ackwoldege they are arabized nilotics.
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