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The Curse of Ham amongst the Somalis

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Have you noticed that in this world, the darker you are the more evil you are and the lighter you are the more angelic you are? I have predicted that the Curse of Ham is very authentic (saheeh). In every culture in the world, whether it is in Asia, Europe or the North Pole, the dark man is ridiculed and taken for jest. Read what Mudane Abraham ibn Ezra said:

"And the meaning of '[Cursed be Canaan, he will be a slave] unto his brothers' is to Cush, Egypt, and Put [only], for they are his father's [other] sons. And there are those who say that the Cushim [black skinned people] are slaves because Noah cursed Ham [the father of Cush], but they forget that the first king after the flood [Nimrod] was a descendant of Cush, and so it is written, 'And the beginning of his kingdom was Babylonia." Mudane Rabbi Abraham ibn Ezra, explanation of Genesis 10:10.

Is it me or have you noticed most sinners amongst Somalis are dark skinned? The reason why Hutus (in Rwanda) are so dark is because Allah punished them for the crimes they did against the Tutsis and Allah punished the Hutus in Somalia for the same reason. Jebertis are mixed between good and evil so that's why some look Nigerian and some normal(maroon, brown). Iidoors have their good and their bad, thats why some are very Nilotic and some appear quite Arabish. They even said all Somalis looked light skin before the civil war and afterwards they were punished and made to look like shadows. Only the good Somalis maintained their correct appearance (Dhulbahante & Warsangeli).

Basically it seems as if though if a nation or a people commit many crimes, Allah punishes them by making them look black.

Why is this the case and has anybody else noticed?
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Re: The Curse of Ham amongst the Somalis

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:o :o

cannot be true
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Acudubliah.....war shaydaanki iska naar! Kulaha people are dark becasue they sin/sinned a lot....
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qoraxeey wrote::o :o

cannot be true
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You are only allowed on my love threads, go away now darling :rose:
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1_londoner wrote:Acudubliah.....war shaydaanki iska naar! Kulaha people are dark becasue they sin/sinned a lot....
Are you dark skinned? If you are then repent to Allah, He is Forgiving
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:lol: :lol:
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RuralMan08 wrote:
qoraxeey wrote::o :o

cannot be true
No women allowed.

You are only allowed on my love threads, go away now darling :rose:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :down:

wara isku xiishood

what kind of thread is this :|

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Islamic interpretations"
The Curse of Ham is not mentioned in the Qur'an.[20] Early Islamic scholars were aware of the story in the Torah and debated whether or not there was a curse on Ham's descendants, or instead on the descendants of Shem, and whether it even had any connection to their skin color. The author Al-Jahiz, an Afro-Arab and the grandson of a Zanj (Bantu)[21][22][23] slave, wrote a book entitled Superiority Of The Blacks To The Whites and explained why the Zanj were black in terms of environmental determinism in the "On the Zanj" chapter of The Essays.[24]

Ibn Khaldun also disputed this story, pointing out that the Torah makes no reference to the curse being related to skin colour and arguing that differences in human pigmentation are caused entirely by climate[25] and environmental determinism, and not because of any curse.[26] Ahmad Baba agreed with this view, rejecting any racial interpretation of the curse."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham
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RuralMan08 wrote:Have you noticed that in this world, the darker you are the more evil you are and the lighter you are the more angelic you are? I have predicted that the Curse of Ham is very authentic (saheeh). In every culture in the world, whether it is in Asia, Europe or the North Pole, the dark man is ridiculed and taken for jest. Read what Mudane Abraham ibn Ezra said:

hoorta i wonder that too

i think its because ignorance
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so you ignored everything in islam and went for jewish mumbo jumbo???

you are lost...


if you want to go for mythology i would go for my own ancient kushtic one... from the worship of waaq.
The colour black was associated with waaq, and also the crow...

black is the colour of purity and holiness, white is evil...


funny thing is for the chinese white is the colour of death and thats what they wear for funerals..
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Abdihaliim wrote:Islamic interpretations"
The Curse of Ham is not mentioned in the Qur'an.[20] Early Islamic scholars were aware of the story in the Torah and debated whether or not there was a curse on Ham's descendants, or instead on the descendants of Shem, and whether it even had any connection to their skin color. The author Al-Jahiz, an Afro-Arab and the grandson of a Zanj (Bantu)[21][22][23] slave, wrote a book entitled Superiority Of The Blacks To The Whites and explained why the Zanj were black in terms of environmental determinism in the "On the Zanj" chapter of The Essays.[24]

Ibn Khaldun also disputed this story, pointing out that the Torah makes no reference to the curse being related to skin colour and arguing that differences in human pigmentation are caused entirely by climate[25] and environmental determinism, and not because of any curse.[26] Ahmad Baba agreed with this view, rejecting any racial interpretation of the curse."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham
Logistically speaking and basing our facts on worldwide experiences can we really deny the Curse of Ham? Almost every racial group look down on blacks and they are discriminated against in every field i.e employment, marriage, crime etc. Their countries are the poorest, they are the chosen race for slavery. I need not reference these points as any sane individual knows this quite astute point.

So, in light of the issues that blacks face. Is the Curse of Ham really non existant?
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Re: The Curse of Ham amongst the Somalis

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qoraxeey wrote: hoorta i wonder that too

i think its because ignorance
No walaal, its an ancient curse that descended upon the dark man.
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Can you post your picture? I want to see how sinful you are. :|
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qoraxeey wrote:
RuralMan08 wrote:Have you noticed that in this world, the darker you are the more evil you are and the lighter you are the more angelic you are? I have predicted that the Curse of Ham is very authentic (saheeh). In every culture in the world, whether it is in Asia, Europe or the North Pole, the dark man is ridiculed and taken for jest. Read what Mudane Abraham ibn Ezra said:

hoorta i wonder that too

i think its because ignorance

It also the ignorance of the poster of this topic and most people..
Most people swallow european bullshit wholeheartedly.

The ancient greeks the so called founders of European civilization , derived thier culture and knowledge from Egypt and Mesopotamia.
The greeks associated Dark skin with wealth, superior knowledge and basically look upto them.

Just read homer's Illiad.
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gurey25 wrote:so you ignored everything in islam and went for jewish mumbo jumbo???

you are lost...


if you want to go for mythology i would go for my own ancient kushtic one... from the worship of waaq.
The colour black was associated with waaq, and also the crow...

black is the colour of purity and holiness, white is evil...


funny thing is for the chinese white is the colour of death and thats what they wear for funerals..
But how relevant is that to today? Is there any race on earth that looks down upon white people? And if so, do they hold any considerable weight in foreign issues or even domerstic to their own country. In ever continent you go the Curse of Ham slaps you in the face. The Negor man has it the hardest and many Somalis too from blackness due to their often repeated sins.
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