Dwellers of the Height?

[Navy9]

Who are they?
The people of Heights (Al-Araf) will be those who are neither righteous enough to enter Paradise nor wicked enough to be cast into Hell. Therefores, they will dwell at a place situated between the two. Hence, Araf or Heights is a place between Paradise and Hellfire.

Allah swt said, in surah Al Araf:



وَنَادَىٰ أَصْحَابُ الْجَنَّةِ أَصْحَابَ النَّارِ أَن قَدْ وَجَدْنَا مَا وَعَدَنَا رَبُّنَا حَقًّا فَهَلْ وَجَدتُّم مَّا وَعَدَ رَبُّكُمْ حَقًّا ۖ قَالُوا نَعَمْ ۚ فَأَذَّنَ مُؤَذِّنٌ بَيْنَهُمْ أَن لَّعْنَةُ اللَّهِ عَلَى الظَّالِمِينَ
الَّذِينَ يَصُدُّونَ عَن سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ وَيَبْغُونَهَا عِوَجًا وَهُم بِالْآخِرَةِ كَافِرُونَ
وَبَيْنَهُمَا حِجَابٌ ۚ وَعَلَى الْأَعْرَافِ رِجَالٌ يَعْرِفُونَ كُلًّا بِسِيمَاهُمْ ۚ وَنَادَوْا أَصْحَابَ الْجَنَّةِ أَن سَلَامٌ عَلَيْكُمْ ۚ لَمْ يَدْخُلُوهَا وَهُمْ يَطْمَعُونَ
وَإِذَا صُرِفَتْ أَبْصَارُهُمْ تِلْقَاءَ أَصْحَابِ النَّارِ قَالُوا رَبَّنَا لَا تَجْعَلْنَا مَعَ الْقَوْمِ الظَّالِمِينَ
وَنَادَىٰ أَصْحَابُ الْأَعْرَافِ رِجَالًا يَعْرِفُونَهُم بِسِيمَاهُمْ قَالُوا مَا أَغْنَىٰ عَنكُمْ جَمْعُكُمْ وَمَا كُنتُمْ تَسْتَكْبِرُونَ
أَهَٰؤُلَاءِ الَّذِينَ أَقْسَمْتُمْ لَا يَنَالُهُمُ اللَّهُ بِرَحْمَةٍ ۚ ادْخُلُوا الْجَنَّةَ لَا خَوْفٌ عَلَيْكُمْ وَلَا أَنتُمْ تَحْزَنُونَ
وَنَادَىٰ أَصْحَابُ النَّارِ أَصْحَابَ الْجَنَّةِ أَنْ أَفِيضُوا عَلَيْنَا مِنَ الْمَاءِ أَوْ مِمَّا رَزَقَكُمُ اللَّهُ ۚ قَالُوا إِنَّ اللَّهَ حَرَّمَهُمَا عَلَى الْكَافِرِينَ
الَّذِينَ اتَّخَذُوا دِينَهُمْ لَهْوًا وَلَعِبًا وَغَرَّتْهُمُ الْحَيَاةُ الدُّنْيَا ۚ فَالْيَوْمَ نَنسَاهُمْ كَمَا نَسُوا لِقَاءَ يَوْمِهِمْ هَٰذَا وَمَا كَانُوا بِآيَاتِنَا يَجْحَدُونَ

And the companions of Paradise will call out to the companions of the Fire, "We have already found what our Lord promised us to be true. Have you found what your Lord promised to be true?" They will say, "Yes." Then an announcer will announce among them, "The curse of Allah shall be upon the wrongdoers."

Who averted [people] from the way of Allah and sought to make it [seem] deviant while they were, concerning the Hereafter, disbelievers.

And between them will be a partition, and on [its] elevations are men who recognize all by their mark. And they call out to the companions of Paradise, "Peace be upon you." They have not [yet] entered it, but they long intensely.

And when their eyes are turned toward the companions of the Fire, they say, "Our Lord, do not place us with the wrongdoing people."


And the companions of the Elevations will call to men [within Hell] whom they recognize by their mark, saying, "Of no avail to you was your gathering and [the fact] that you were arrogant."

[Allah will say], "Are these the ones whom you [inhabitants of Hell] swore that Allah would never offer them mercy? Enter Paradise, [O People of the Elevations]. No fear will there be concerning you, nor will you grieve."

And the companions of the Fire will call to the companions of Paradise, "Pour upon us some water or from whatever Allah has provided you." They will say, "Indeed, Allah has forbidden them both to the disbelievers."

Who took their religion as distraction and amusement and whom the worldly life deluded." So today We will forget them just as they forgot the meeting of this Day of theirs and for having rejected Our verses.

[abdalla11]

Is it forever or just until yowmul qiyaamah?

[Navy9]

That was a depiction from what goes on...on Judgement day but eventually the Araf will enter Jannah by Allah's will.

[Cali_Gaab]

Is it forever or just until yowmul qiyaamah?

Better there than jahannam right?

[IRONm@N]

They sound like Somali to me.
ppl who are Islam partime.

[SultanOrder]

where did you get this from???

[Navy9]

where did you get this from???

what is "this" exactly that you are referring to?

[SultanOrder]

Navy look at other translations, the People of Araf are Honored people who know the dwellers of Jannah and dwellers of Jahanam by their marks, though these people have not entered Jannah or Jahanam yet. There is no purgatory or people who wait a time in between to enter Jannah after yomal qiyamah. I have never heard such beliefs.

[SultanOrder]

http://english.bayynat.org.lb/quran/AL-ARAF4.htm

Just look at how they have translated the same verses differently from your translations.

[Navy9]

First of all, the english translations of the arabic verses do correspond to its arabic ones. Secondly, when I look up an ayah, i tend to find its tafsir (and to clearly understand why such things were said). Thirdly, just for you to look it up, here are couple of sources:

This is where I have qouted from:
http://quran.com/7


And this is where one of the tafsirs I read is:
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=7&tid=17903


Finally: Thank you for questioning a source an anonymous person posted, I would do the same too.

[SultanOrder]

This is new to me, I would have to consult with my teacher who is more knowledgeable and can bring it up with more knowledgeable if he can't answer it. I will look into it, that tafseer has put doubt into me.

[Navy9]

Is that a Shia website?

[SultanOrder]

No, I meant because I read the tafsiir I have reason enough to pursue to find out more. Not that I'm doubtful of the tafsir.

[Navy9]

I quicky read your link and from ayah 44, it does look same to me, anyhow.

If you post anything after this point, I will respond to it tomorrow insha-Allah, I off to sleep.


Salaam Alaykum

[Navy9]

No, I meant because I read the tafsiir I have reason enough to pursue to find out more. Not that I'm doubtful of the tafsir.

Okay, salaam