Where you see Halite and Gypsum, expect a civil war

[udun]

If you see where the Western Oil companies did the explorations in Somalia in the 1950s, 1960s, 1986, and even now, you will notice that evaporates like Halite (NaCl), Gypsum, and Anhydrites are some of the indicators, in addition to the sedimentory basins.

They searched the land well, they found it, broke the country apart (in the case of Ogaden), and then the civil war went full speed and we are still caught up in that manufactured internal strife with all of the hate and division that came with it.

I think we should wake up to why we are where we found ourselves today!

[LobsterUnit]

adana, you attribute so much power to white men

[kadarre]

Somalis are very greedy people

[udun]

Gaajounit, they are running te show at and we just became the tools for their schemes. Understand your oponent and only and only we will find solutions.

The holly Koran is very clear on Yahud and Nasara.

[LobsterUnit]

Gaajounit, they are running te show at and we just became the tools for their schemes. Understand your oponent and only and only we will find solutions.

The holly Koran is very clear on Yahud and Nasara.

aLLAH is running the show. Wal caqibatu lil mutaqin. When this solid aqeedah enters the mind, penetrates the heart, you will achieve victory.

[Hussein53]

To Udun

At times you make so much sense with post regarding western disruption of the somali lands and the problem with Tribalism, however when you start attacking ISAAQ and accuse them of supporting Shabab you contradict yourself and show your true colours. Also your ridiculous comments about Dahab Shill also exposes your jealousy by trying to destroy the reputation of one of the most successful companies the somali's own.

Try to look at yourself when your thinking about why somali's are in this ridiculous predicament, because you reflect the potential the somali people have while at the same-time the seeds of destruction i.e ENVY, TRIBALISM, JEALOUSY and the concept of " if my clan dont have it why should any-other clan have it"

P.S
Dont get me wrong I'm Isaaq who opposes this ridiculous idea of Somaliland, and recognises the amount of wasted effort put into this false dream.

[udun]

To Udun

At times you make so much sense with post regarding western disruption of the somali lands and the problem with Tribalism, however when you start attacking ISAAQ and accuse them of supporting Shabab you contradict yourself and show your true colours. Also your ridiculous comments about Dahab Shill also exposes your jealousy by trying to destroy the reputation of one of the most successful companies the somali's own.

Try to look at yourself when your thinking about why somali's are in this ridiculous predicament, because you reflect the potential the somali people have while at the same-time the seeds of destruction i.e ENVY, TRIBALISM, JEALOUSY and the concept of " if my clan dont have it why should any-other clan have it"

P.S
Dont get me wrong I'm Isaaq who opposes this ridiculous idea of Somaliland, and recognises the amount of wasted effort put into this false dream.

Hussein, SL government supports the efforts of Ahmed Abdi Godane's faction within Al-Shabaab to keep the rest of Somalia in turmoil. That is no brainer and any one who is following Somalia's ever changing factions knows it. Even the polticians in Somaliland call for the war to continue and I could never understand Ahmed Abdi Godane's war efforts in Mogadishu and Bosaso when you have Ethiopians using the port of Berbera almost exclusively? You see his Jihad is applicable to AMISOM, TFG, and PL State of Somalia but SL authority and Ethiopians using the port of Berbera almost exclusively are exempt from his war efforts That is a hypocrisy that I could never get.

What makes the Ethiopians using the Berbera port much different than the AMISOM in Mogadishu or Ethiopians in Mogadishu in 2007 - 2009?

How can the SL minister for religious affairs visit in Baidoa and his son serve one of the top leadership within Al-Shabaab while at the sametime SL claims it is at war with Al-Shabaab?

How can Feisal Ali Waraabe issue calls to Al-Shabaab when he encouarges the war in Mogadishu should be increased twofold when young men are thrown into prisons in the west and Africa for the mere charges that they support Al-Shabaab and at the same you have Ethiopians controlling the port of Berbera?

For Dahabshiil, they are part of the war efforts against Dhulbahante territories and it is they who financially support that militia of SL entity. This company also used Al-Shabaab to ban the ZAAD services from carrying out its business activities. There are also reports that this entity manages the finances of Ahmed Abdi Godane and we should be talking about it.

The rest of my Isaaq bashing is all fadhi-ku-dirir and you know it!

[Samatr]

^pass di dutchie pon di lef han side.

[Hussein53]

Udun
I dont understand its either you really believe what your say which will lower your status or your spewing this garbage because of your hatred for Somaliland,

Somaliland is a secular democratic administration that is begging for recognition and Alshabab is striving for the establishment of a new world order (Khalifah governance).

These two entities are at logger heads with eachother, I mean they totally oppose eachother. What I mean is they cannot live side by side with each other.


An intelligent man never makes blank statements such as yours without hard evidence, all of your presumptions are speculative; from (1) al shabab are there to help the south to be in turmoil so somaliland can gain recognition, to (2) Dahabshill funds alshabab to block ZAAD.

(1) Didn't you know that the South has been in Turmoil since 1991 without Al shabab ever being there and in fact Al Shabab has created some form of stability and once they are strong enough will be in Hargeisa to destroy that secular administration.
(2) Zaad money transfer was banned by the fact that western companies take a share of the money transfer and not because it competes with Dahabshill, because if what you said is true then why is the many other money transfer companies banned as well.

P.S
Theres enough wrong with speculating, but don't try pass those statements as facts, because it will only show your ignorance or hatred

[udun]

^pass di dutchie pon di lef han side.

I think you use drugs kid

[Samatr]

^pass di dutchie pon di lef han side.

I think you use drugs kid

The correlations you make are crazy, that or your on drugs,
that's what I was trying to point out.

[udun]

^pass di dutchie pon di lef han side.

I think you use drugs kid

The correlations you make are crazy, that or your on drugs,
that's what I was trying to point out.

When someone is trying to divert you from your mission, that is when that person says is that you are on drugs, you are crazy, you are this, you are that. The question is do I care what you think? I am going to continue to point out the falsehoods of the secessionist entity named Somaliland and the Dahabshiil money remittance company that funds the hidden activities of that entity.

[udun]

Udun
I dont understand its either you really believe what your say which will lower your status or your spewing this garbage because of your hatred for Somaliland,

Somaliland is a secular democratic administration that is begging for recognition and Alshabab is striving for the establishment of a new world order (Khalifah governance).

These two entities are at logger heads with eachother, I mean they totally oppose eachother. What I mean is they cannot live side by side with each other.


An intelligent man never makes blank statements such as yours without hard evidence, all of your presumptions are speculative; from (1) al shabab are there to help the south to be in turmoil so somaliland can gain recognition, to (2) Dahabshill funds alshabab to block ZAAD.

(1) Didn't you know that the South has been in Turmoil since 1991 without Al shabab ever being there and in fact Al Shabab has created some form of stability and once they are strong enough will be in Hargeisa to destroy that secular administration.
(2) Zaad money transfer was banned by the fact that western companies take a share of the money transfer and not because it competes with Dahabshill, because if what you said is true then why is the many other money transfer companies banned as well.

P.S
Theres enough wrong with speculating, but don't try pass those statements as facts, because it will only show your ignorance or hatred

Hussein,

I am giving out obvious facts and those that I have no facts, I have stated that "there were reports", so all of your efforts are based on your defense of Somaliland entity and the activities of Dahabshiil money remittance company.

Let me correct you one thing, Somaliland is not a secular democracy; to the contrary, it is a one-clan based entity that is trying to break-away from the Somali Republic and at the sametime is at war with other non-Isaaq Somalis in Northern Somalia that have rejected the idea of breaking away from Somalia. Lining up Isaaq clansmen and women and asking them to vote for the ever elusive 'recognition' does not make that entity a secular democracy.

It is true that Al-Shabaab brought peace and some form of stability in all areas under its control; however, what cannot be hidden is that all of the leadership of Al-Shabaab was taken over by Somaliland firsters who are using those postions they hold within Al-Shabaab to prolong the war in Somalia and to prevent any Somali central government from taking place in Mogadishu until Somaliland receives the ever elusive recognition.

These are obvious facts whether you like or not:

1. The suicide bombers who attack Somali civilians in Mogadishu daily all hail from Somaliland.

2. The Amiir of Al-Shabaab, Ahmed Abdi Godane, hails from Somaliland.

3. The second in Command of Al-Shabaab, Ibrahim Al-Afghani, hails from Somaliland.

4. The representative of Al-Shabaab in Burao is Sheekh Ali warsame hails from Somaliland and is a close relative of Axmed Mohamed Siilaanyo, the current president of Somaliland.

5. The biggest base of all terrorist activities in Somalia is Burao and Hargeisa, two main cities that are part of the entity that calls itself Somaliland.

6. The Dahabshiil company that finances the terrorist activities in all of Somalia has its headquarters in Hargeisa, Somaliland and its owners hail from Somaliland. They ensure that all of the finance activities of Ahmed Abdi Godane is managed by this company. They also ensure any viable money remittance that can challenge Dahabshiil's money remittance is blocked by Al-Shabaab leaders. This is the main reason why ZAAD services was baaned. The services provided by ZAAD was vast, reliable, and much cheaper than Dahabshiil.

7. The commander of the terrorist activities that was and still taking place in Galgala mountains, Siciid Atam, has his biggest base in Burao, Togdheer and he is financed by Somaliland intelligence.

8. Somaliland's terrorist activities and attacks against the Ayn region (capital Buuhoodle) is proof of the the terrorist nature of this entity that calls itself Somaliland.

9. Somaliland's current foreign minister Mohamed Abdillahi Omar has sent his son to join Al-Shabaab and to support Ahmed Abdi Godane, the leader of Al-Shabaab. The young son of Somaliland's foreign minister who has joined Al-Shabaab was qouted saying "his father encouraged him to support the activities of uncle Ahmed Abdi Godane". Keep in mind the young man did not say his father sent him to support Islam but to support "the activities of uncle Ahmed Abdi Godane".

10. Faisal Ali Waraabe, the leader of the UCID party in Hargeisa, Somaliland, has called for the war in Mogadishu should be increased twofold after he met Somaliland's president Ahmed Mohamed Siilaanyo on February 22, 2011. Here you have one of the leaders of that entity encouraging the war effort led by Ahmed Abdi Godane be increased.

11. The Minister of Religious Affairs in Somaliland, Sheekh Khaliil Cabdillaahi Axmed, regularly visits his son who is a top official within Al-shabaab movement in Southern Somalia and continues the encouragement for the war in Mogadishu to be continued. According to Somali media reports, this SL minister of religious affairs was in Baidoa, Bay region of Somalia visiting his son and was encouraging the war in Somalia be increased in twofold.
12. The president of Somaliland, Ahmed Mohamed Siilaanyo, told a group of Isaaq delegates that he met recently in London, UK that the goal of Ahmed Abdi Godane is to deny the stability of any government in Mogadishu and also to make sure Al-Shabaab never passes beyond Dhuusamareeb.

It is high time for every one to notice the doubleface of the Somaliland entity and the dangerous activities of its leaders.

[Hussein53]

Sorry Udun I thought you were sane, I didn't know your officially insane.


Some of the things your saying is true however it is not enough to suggest that this is some kinda of somaliland conspiracy, infact its laughable and it reflects your small logic.

Simple possibility can dismiss your conspiracy to the trash can "NOT EVERY ISAAQ IS PRO SOMALILAND" there are people like myself who would love Somaliland idea to be finished with and unite the MUSLIM Somali nation under one authority. So to suggest I am supporting Somaliland is foolish because I hate the idea of Somaliland and I hate Silanyo and I hate everything about it. And I believe it is not beneficial to the Isaaq and Somali people in general, the same way your foolish entity Puntland is a way to divide us including the useless TFG puppets. All of these governments serve one purpose and that is to keep the Somali people fighting each-other while the real enemy (ETHIOPIA) takes our land, our resources and our dignity. We have inherited a very large piece of land with a very small population from our forefathers, that is very strategic and the world does not want this fierce and proud people to keep it. So don't let our positive pride and fierceness be used against eachother and direct them to our real enemy and Allah might just bless us with the beautiful land of Ethiopia and Kenya in total just like FUTUH AL HABASH.

[abdalla11]

Hussein, 95% of the Somalilanders on this forum praise Ina Godane and Alshabaab, why are they doing that?