wikileaks: kismayo majority marexaan city

[Eaglehawk]

Somalinet gedo section members where right
Americans confirm kismayo population is majority marexaan


http://wikileaks.ch/cable/2008/02/08ADDISABABA286.html

[new-york24]

Wikileaks exposes goverment sicrets not count heads
Shouldnt malez be conserned if ogaden are mijority instead of marexaan? he has marexan on his lap without any pre conditions so why should he keep an eye out for them Thats like a pimp saying "I gotta keep my hoe off the tracks"

[Voltage]

New York always on the defense. WIkileaks are diplomatic cables from the US embassies. That statement even in plain English is not saying Meles believes so, but is saying matter of fact what the author of the cable presumes to be the truth.

It is a post-script, "comment" add on by the author. I am sure for that the US has the CIA and their vast information collecting apparatus to make a conclusive remark.

[new-york24]

Well than the c.i.a should be able to take the city and run over shabaab,how do they know more about our land than you and I?
Ma dhulkeygaan ka wareystaa niman aan dhulka joogin,am pretty sure waad iska yelesaa ee dhab kaama aha The land speaks for itself,waligaa ma maqashay.."dhulka ma guree dadkaa guura"..when you leave the town you run till dollow.when a cagdheer gets chased out of town he stops every half a mile till he reaches diif,am guessing you know the land and the distance between kis iyo diif

[Voltage]

I think the iska yeel yeel is on your part and it has always been. Objective entities oon kala jeclayn who is majority or not wrote that, not I. As for dhulka kala yaqaan, I have said before and will say again Beesha Sade is majority of Kismaayo. The last time a fair allocation of tribe positions was given was given under the ICU and the ICU (Al Shabaab does not give according to clan) gave the governor of the city and other stuff like militia leader, airport, taxes, etc to Sade while making Sade deputy in every other position given to other qabiils. I think when the ICU was then defeated by the TFG with Ethiopia and the first fair tribal fighting took place (Sade under Fartaag Guutada Sedexaad, and Harti under Afgaduud Guutada Koowaad with Og under Koojaar Guutada Labaad), Sade chased the other Guutooyin out. Sade is the majority of Kismaayo. Sure they don't live in much of the rural areas surrounding the district but then again Ogaadeen have always been known for residing in the rural areas but never really having a significant presence in the city itself.

Still, why does it matter to you so much the perception Sade might actually be majority there? I though you are Al Shabaab and left tribalism behind?

[Voltage]

BTW let us be real, the most prominent threat OG is not from Marehan in Kismaayo (which can accomadate many clans and increasingly population) but from Gaaljecel, Shiiqaal, etc in the rural areas encroaching.

[new-york24]

This is why i dont bother too much with you inadeer,the icu gave it to axmed madoobe till he was wounded in the ethiopian incursion..remember?..than cabdulahi yusuf gave it to ilyas..remember? than barre kicked him out along with afgaduud and kojaar..remember?..shabaab took it and turki named seylici as head and c/qani kaba jecel as second in comand with axmed on the port when things went to hell shabaab chose geedi as the amiir of jubbaland that includes gedo while yacquub is mayor of kismayo..home work for you tonight,who is the amiir of jubbaland right now and where is he from? Hint middle jubo.
If qooje takes it tonight am fine with it,lakiin marnaba ha ku fakarin inuu wiil galgaduud ka yimid oo xiniinyaha ceyr lotion marinaya inuu kista cag soo dhigo, faan iyo xiniinyo qaboow oo general tadase lagu hoos fadhiyo egesh baan kaa iri inadeer.

I cant bleive you tried to pull that fast one on me,inaad I barataan ku moday

[Voltage]

Madoobe was the head of Jubbada Hoose, governor of Kismaayo for the ICU was professor Bashiir Jalato (reer Dalal Diini/Sade), along with Gaarane (reer Siyaad Diini/Sade) for Airport, the Talxe head of tax collection, etc etc etc.

Sheekh Axmed Madoobe ayaa loo magacaabay in uu qabto gudoonka Gobolka
Jubbada Hoose, halka Gudoomiyaha Degmada Kismaayo-na loo magacaabay Sheekh
Bashiir Axmed Cali Jalato.

http://www.somaliwide.net/articles.asp?id=1466&lid=66

Like I said, when it comes to fair allocation based on tribe the ICU was the only to go by it and the result was known. As for Yusuf, after Barre Hiiraale was defeated by ICU and went to Baydhabo...Abdullahi Yusuf like all Kablalax did not want to believe the numerical weight of Sade in the city and assumed it was a finished military occuption by Barre with JVA and so named that tribalist anti-Sade maamul led by Ilyaas Gaboose after the Ethiopians defeated ICU in Jubooyinka. This is one the main reason the Sade, Ogaden, and Harti militias clashed after Kismaayo was taken over from the ICU and even though Barre was still in Baydhabo, Fartaag and the 3rd guuto chased the Ogaden and Harti militias of the TFG sent there by Yusuf.

Let's get facts straight bro. Since your first post on this topic, all you have done is insult Marehan left and right but if you notice not a single negative thing was said against Ogaden. Your response is reflective of qofka ciilan.

Continue being the jihadist you are as long as it is just another shaar.

[mudugawi]

Barre Hiiraale

[grandpakhalif]

loooool This is plain fact wallahi, even cables know it

But anyone is welcome

[quark]

why cant everyone just live in peace in that city?

[ibrahimcw]

Sade dominates Jubbada hoose both rural and city/towns, Afmadow korkeed baa degan nahay meel Xagar ku ag yaasha, tuuloda afmadoow hosteedna waan deganahay meel la yirahdo bibi. greater Kismaayo haba iisheegin waa wada Sade, Badhaadhe waa Ogaden ilaa Lamu, Jamaame waa wada beero dadna ma sheegan karaan beera dhaqana uma leheni, laakin ayadoo saa tahay abitgee iyo adeerahay waxee ku wada leeyihiin beero badan ina wabiga maro including jamaame, mareerey, goobweyn, runtii waxa daris ilana ah waa wada mareexaan waliba Reer Cismaan iyo Wagardhac. maxaa haray, haa, Jilib waa mostly Gaaljecel, i dont know why u daheysiin shiikhal they dont live much in Jubboyinka, waxee degaan shabeelaha hoose laakin ayaga iyo biyomaal difdif wee degaan Jubbada dhexe wuqooyigeed, other than that waa Gaaljecel inta Buale iyo meelahas aad gaaljeclka ayaa u daga, sida kale waxaa gaaljecelka la dego qabiilo oo aan magacood iloobey oo aad ka dagaalami jirey xerada dajuuma iyo daafaheed. ogaden uma diidaye jubboyinka waa darood, waana dariskeena oo ayagaa gobalka ndf lockdown ku haya, but nimankaan onlf maxaa inagu salidey, they still have the sand from dhegax buur in their hair dammit, kolee darood waa wado walaalo so stop this nonesense guys.

anyaway i want to tell you guys about a story my father told me. in the Miyi of Jubbada hoose here lives a famous Rer Gureey oo ah jifo kamid ah Reer Cali Dalal, my dad told me when he first came to Kismaayo in the 60s he explored the place outside the city and was amazed by the ammount of Mareexaan who lived here so far away from where he came from in the central regions, he told me amongst the mareexaan were Talhe, Rer Farah Ugaas, Soonfure and some really stubborn Rer Xassan but to his astonishment he told me he met a Reer Dalal who was overly excited to meet him, his story was amazing. he came to the small town kismaayo 40 so years before my dad by italian plane, he was kidnapped by the italians for being too nosy as a kid in Dhusomareb he was only 12 and the son of an Caaqil Bah Ogadeen the Italians use to deal with in the central regions, when my dad told me about this he was smiling like i have never seen him smile before, when i asked him why he was smilling he told me that the boy who was missing started of a huge arguement between Reer Dalal who were Bah miido, Rer Cali Dalal, Rer Cabdille Alamagan etc against pretty much the rest of Alamagan including Bah habar Celi(granpakhalif's lineages goes into this) and it was a big deal because the Caaqil really loved his son. my father was in his early 20s and when he was a kid his father(my grandfather) ran away after beating up some other Rer Dalal over the exact issue, and he was gone for months running towards the old land Wardheer(anyway he came back and his story i will tell another time). kolee, the big fight which was over the dissapearance of the kid, no one was killed over it or anything it was just xanaag badan iyo waa la is uleeye, and it left many people bitter. so when my father met the old man in Jubbada hoose who was the missing kid many years ago in dhusomareb, he laughed and was overly happy, thats why he was smilling as he told me about it. coming back to the old man, he told my father that when he landed in Kismaayo around 1920-30 it was a tiny town much smaller than Dhusomareb, it had a adequate port and was settled by all forigners at first, but he came to learn half of them were actually Somali cadcad who were italian subordinates, he told my father he was given clerical duties in the city, for years working for the gaalo who kidnapped him as a child he learned their habits of drinking alcohol and womanizing with the Bajuuni cadcad women, he told my father he had enough and by the time he matured he left with one Gaaljecel Somali geeljire who had come to pay tax to the italians, from their he learned that there was Mareexaan and they were rebelling against the italian occupation, he joined them and he lived with the Farah Ugaas community amongst the Mareexaan.

this topic reminded me of that story, we have wikileaks exposing GAALO conspiring against our beloved home Jubbada hoose, and all we think about posting is nacnac attacking each other. dhoqonimo baa idin heysato. aniga sida siyaad barre aun qabiil xaraan uma qabi, laakin get your priorities straight, waliba kuwa cagdheerta oo abtiyaasha ah, get your damn priorities straight.

[Garbo_Gedo]

Well than the c.i.a should be able to take the city and run over shabaab,how do they know more about our land than you and I?
Ma dhulkeygaan ka wareystaa niman aan dhulka joogin,am pretty sure waad iska yelesaa ee dhab kaama aha The land speaks for itself,waligaa ma maqashay.."dhulka ma guree dadkaa guura"..when you leave the town you run till dollow.when a cagdheer gets chased out of town he stops every half a mile till he reaches diif,am guessing you know the land and the distance between kis iyo diif

Doqonki Daaroodow instead of being occupied with Marehan's Kismayo city affair, how about you concentrated on your Ogaden region where your women are forced to pick up arms to defend themselves after they became sex slaves for the habashi. The question is where are the mens of these women to defend them? did they all became castrated and she-males?



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[LooxJiid]

[LooxJiid]

Somalinet gedo section members where right
Americans confirm kismayo population is majority marexaan


http://wikileaks.ch/cable/2008/02/08ADDISABABA286.html

I think Marehans need no proof from anyone that they dominate Jubbaland. A WikiLeaks cable does not hurt though.

Thank you Eagle.