20+ years of Liberalism has done this to me

[Beenaale_No1]

Why do folks care so much about how others live their life? This forums is full of people saying Women shouldn't do XYZ and they should do ABC.Maxa kaa galey adiga? Kaaley, ma adiga baa gabadhaan dhashey? Macho Faraxs wanna force people to live a lifestyle that they seem acceptable.

If a someone want to drink himself to death and destroy his liver, have at it horse. If a woman want to dress provocatively and live & work in her homeland Somalia, then waa arin ayada u taalo. Your private life is your private life.

I genuinely do not understand why someone cares so much about other people's lifestyles. Walahi, it baffles me.

Yeah Im a lib thanks to 20+ year of living in Europe. It's ingrained deep into my dhiig.

[Awraadle]

Its our duty to care for other people in Islam. We cannot ignore somebody that is heading towards or is in the wrong path. But what we shouldn't do is judge them. We should worry and care for our society with action and without judgement.

[Beenaale_No1]

Its our duty to care for other people in Islam. We cannot ignore somebody that is heading towards or is in the wrong path. But what we shouldn't do is judge them. We should worry and care for our society with action and without judgement.

We can advice people and try and lead them to the right path. But we cant tell people how they should live their lives.

Once we have given them dacwa, then our responsibility is fulfilled. Its then up to said individual if they wanna take that advice. If not, waa arin ayaga iyo Ilaahi u taalo.

I see people on here, mostly men, laying out a blueprint on how Somalia should be and how people should not allowed to dress this way or live that way etc. I am totally against that.

I get that we don't want toal faasaqnimo in our country, like pornography, prostitution etc. but if people wanna live liberal lifestyles, I say let them.

[DropkickMurphy]

I doubt it is about macho-ness or imposing your ways on others. I know this is kinda personal and a bit off topic but are you muslim?

[ahmedbrant]

Im the kind of guy that wouldn't look twice or feel bad at seeing a somali girl lipsing a white guy in the uk
The uk aint my country and they have their own laws which i respect even if i dont agree with them.
The uk isn't a muslim country so any somalis are free to act like gaalo if thats what makes them happy even though its wrong.
But don't try and extend this bullshit to somalia which is basically 100% muslim and we will not bring this gaal daqan back home.

You say ur a lib now but how would you react if ur son was gay?
Since its so deeply ingrained in ur heart, surly you wouldn't have a problem with it

[Beenaale_No1]

I doubt it is about macho-ness or imposing your ways on others. I know this is kinda personal and a bit off topic but are you muslim?

Not sure if serious!!

[Awraadle]

Yes, we cannot force people what or what not to wear. But other stuff like alochol etc must be forbidden in our country, hence we cannot tolerate these behaviours. There are major sins and minor, we should concentrate on the major. We used to have strong 'ciidamada asluubta'. Inshallah we will have them strong again instead of Al-shabaab maniacs.

[Beenaale_No1]

Im the kind of guy that wouldn't look twice or feel bad at seeing a somali girl lipsing a white guy in the uk
The uk aint my country and they have their own laws which i respect even if i dont agree with them.
The uk isn't a muslim country so any somalis are free to act like gaalo if thats what makes them happy even though its wrong.
But don't try and extend this bullshit to somalia which is basically 100% muslim and we will not bring this gaal daqan back home.

You say ur a lib now but how would you react if ur son was gay?
Since its so deeply ingrained in ur heart, surly you wouldn't have a problem with it

See, he is MY son. I've raised this midget, so I have the right to to boss him around. Im not that big of a lib anyway. But if someone else's son was gay, aniga maxa iga galey? Thats up to that family to deal with.

The problem here is what if someone in Somalia didn't like your lifestyle, and then tried to impose his values on you. You would fight against that. Is his dhaqan superior to yours? Is your dhaqan superior to that girl over there wearing jeans? You will never have a nation who all have the exact same social views, hence nobody will ever agree.

At the end of the day, we are only answerable to God, not Farax iyo Warsame iyo Rooble.

[ahmedbrant]

Im the kind of guy that wouldn't look twice or feel bad at seeing a somali girl lipsing a white guy in the uk
The uk aint my country and they have their own laws which i respect even if i dont agree with them.
The uk isn't a muslim country so any somalis are free to act like gaalo if thats what makes them happy even though its wrong.
But don't try and extend this bullshit to somalia which is basically 100% muslim and we will not bring this gaal daqan back home.

You say ur a lib now but how would you react if ur son was gay?
Since its so deeply ingrained in ur heart, surly you wouldn't have a problem with it

See, he is MY son. I've raised this midget, so I have the right to to boss him around. Im not that big of a lib anyway. But if someone else's son was gay, aniga maxa iga galey? Thats up to that family to deal with.

The problem here is what if someone in Somalia didn't like your lifestyle, and then tried to impose his values on you. You would fight against that. Is his dhaqan superior to yours? Is your dhaqan superior to that girl over there wearing jeans? You will never have a nation who all have the exact same social views, hence nobody will ever agree.

At the end of the day, we are only answerable to God, not Farax iyo Warsame iyo Rooble.

I won't accept someone elses values over mine but what i will accept are islamic values. Like i said somalia is 100% muslim so we don't need to cater to gaalo and its obvious that were going to have very islamic laws. If she wants to wear tight jeans she's free to gtfo and go to what ever country where this is acceptable just like any person in the uk is free go to a muslim country if they want to hear the adhan. You would've had a case if a lot of somalis were non-muslims

[Colonel]

Im the kind of guy that wouldn't look twice or feel bad at seeing a somali girl lipsing a white guy in the uk
The uk aint my country and they have their own laws which i respect even if i dont agree with them.
The uk isn't a muslim country so any somalis are free to act like gaalo if thats what makes them happy even though its wrong.
But don't try and extend this bullshit to somalia which is basically 100% muslim and we will not bring this gaal daqan back home.

You say ur a lib now but how would you react if ur son was gay?
Since its so deeply ingrained in ur heart, surly you wouldn't have a problem with it

indeed Somalia is a land of Islam, girls who dress like prostitutes have no place in it they can stick to their beloved Europe/USA. The same for homo dudes.

[Beenaale_No1]

Im the kind of guy that wouldn't look twice or feel bad at seeing a somali girl lipsing a white guy in the uk
The uk aint my country and they have their own laws which i respect even if i dont agree with them.
The uk isn't a muslim country so any somalis are free to act like gaalo if thats what makes them happy even though its wrong.
But don't try and extend this bullshit to somalia which is basically 100% muslim and we will not bring this gaal daqan back home.

You say ur a lib now but how would you react if ur son was gay?
Since its so deeply ingrained in ur heart, surly you wouldn't have a problem with it

See, he is MY son. I've raised this midget, so I have the right to to boss him around. Im not that big of a lib anyway. But if someone else's son was gay, aniga maxa iga galey? Thats up to that family to deal with.

The problem here is what if someone in Somalia didn't like your lifestyle, and then tried to impose his values on you. You would fight against that. Is his dhaqan superior to yours? Is your dhaqan superior to that girl over there wearing jeans? You will never have a nation who all have the exact same social views, hence nobody will ever agree.

At the end of the day, we are only answerable to God, not Farax iyo Warsame iyo Rooble.

I won't accept someone elses values over mine but what i will accept are islamic values. Like i said somalia is 100% muslim so we don't need to cater to gaalo and its obvious that were going to have very islamic laws. If she wants to wear tight jeans she's free to gtfo and go to what ever country where this is acceptable just like any person in the uk is free go to a muslim country if they want to hear the adhan. You would've had a case if a lot of somalis were non-muslims

Al-Shabab also claim their values are Islamic, and if we dont conform to that they will wage endless wars on us - and they'll happily ban music and shit like that. You, then in turn, have your own values. Just like Xaawo iyo Rooble have their values. Everyone has their own. So who's "values" are we gonna follow? You think there is this utopia society where everyone will agree to what islamic law that'll be in place.

Im not taking about gays or strippers who wanna live here. Im talking about normal working class women who wear jeans and no hijab, but are normal citizens o edeb leh. They have every right to live in Somalia as we do.

[Beenaale_No1]

I just dont give a shit what people do, bar extreme cases [like prostitutions, pornography etc.]. That will dilute our society. . But other than that, people can do whatever they want.

[ahmedbrant]

Al-Shabab also claim their values are Islamic, and if we dont conform to that they will wage endless wars on us - and they'll happily ban music and shit like that. You, then in turn, have your own values. Just like Xaawo iyo Rooble have their values. Everyone has their own. So who's "values" are we gonna follow? You think there is this utopia society where everyone will agree to what islamic law that'll be in place.

Im not taking about gays or strippers who wanna live here. Im talking about normal working class women who wear jeans and no hijab, but are normal citizens o edeb leh. They have every right to live in Somalia as we do.

al shabab are the furthest thing from islam.
Why should we ignore the majority for such a small percentage of women. The uk is a free country and pretty much most somali girls cover their hair. We're going to follow what ever law the government sets so if the government bans any women from wearing jeans publicly you have to respect that just as i have to respect it if they dont ban it.
What ever you do in ur house is up to you but just make sure u dont get caught if its illegal

[Awraadle]

If they banned Veil/Niqaab in christian or liberal countries like Belgium and France then Somalia should ban jeans and bikini's. Fair and square

[mcali]

Again and again i see people throwing around the alshabaab card. Bottom line is islam has a set of guidlines that must be followed. If you dont follow it you are on the crooked path of jahanam. And even if you're on the path of jahanam your fellow muslim brothers and sisters will try to steer you back to the straight path by advising you with goodness.
liberal ≠ islam