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As long as you are a Muslim and you believe the Qur'an is the full word of God and unalterable (100% of Muslims), exposed FBI manuals basically says you are a "terrorist sympathizer" and the potential to be "violent". FBI manuals also say the Prophet Muhammad was a "cult leader" (basically meaning Islam is a cult to them), and that Zakah is nothing more "terrorism funding."
FBI Teaches Agents: ‘Mainstream’ Muslims Are ‘Violent, Radical’
The FBI is teaching its counterterrorism agents that “main stream” [sic] American Muslims are likely to be terrorist sympathizers; that the Prophet Mohammed was a “cult leader”; and that the Islamic practice of giving charity is no more than a “funding mechanism for combat.”
At the Bureau’s training ground in Quantico, Virginia, agents are shown a chart contending that the more “devout” a Muslim, the more likely he is to be “violent.” Those destructive tendencies cannot be reversed, an FBI instructional presentation adds: “Any war against non-believers is justified” under Muslim law; a “moderating process cannot happen if the Koran continues to be regarded as the unalterable word of Allah.”
These are excerpts from dozens of pages of recent FBI training material on Islam that Danger Room has acquired. In them, the Constitutionally protected religious faith of millions of Americans is portrayed as an indicator of terrorist activity.
Voltage the goal is to have a large portion of the Muslims say we don't take the quran literally in couple of years. This is how Christianity was destroyed. Today you won't find many Christians who belief in all of the bible.
Alchemist, there is a difference between saying we don't take the Qur'an "literally" and saying you believe any part of the Qur'an is not from God. If you don't believe the Qur'aan, in its entirety from God, then it basically means you are not a Muslim. You don't believe a basic foundation that makes Islam "Islam". However, saying that parts are allegorical, or the likes, or you don't take literal is a whole another dimension, and one that could be reached as long as you pass the hurdle that makes you Muslim such as believing the Qur'an is from God.
2ndtoNone, I am not assure I understand you completely.
Among the most provocative aspects of the presentation is its recommended reading list. One book offered is The Truth About Mohammed: Founder of the World’s Most Intolerant Religion, by Robert Spencer. Spencer is one of the ringleaders of the protest against the so-called “Ground Zero Mosque” and the co-founder of Stop the Islamicization of America, which “promotes a conspiratorial anti-Muslim agenda,” in the view of the Anti-Defamation League. A manifesto written by the Norwegian terror suspect Anders Behring Breivik cited Spencer 64 times.
Voltage wrote:Alchemist, there is a difference between saying we don't take the Qur'an "literally" and saying you believe any part of the Qur'an is not from God. If you don't believe the Qur'aan, in its entirety from God, then it basically means you are not a Muslim. You don't believe a basic foundation that makes Islam "Islam". However, saying that parts are allegorical, or the likes, or you don't take literal is a whole another dimension, and one that could be reached as long as you pass the hurdle that makes you Muslim such as believing the Qur'an is from God.
2ndtoNone, I am not assure I understand you completely.
Voltage I used the wrong wording but the general understanding is the quran should be taken literal until there is a verse or hadith which says other wise. For example when Allah talks about cutting of the hand there are those who claim is a metaphor for something else lol.
Saying part of the quran is not word of god is straight up silly.lol next level waaye
ES, why would anyone reads Robert Spencer? He has been discredited like a million times by Muslims and non-Muslims a like. He is an anti-Islam rightwing nut even mainstream American media will never take seriously.
FBI just found a new client base, that's all it is. There hasn't been a decade in FBI's history when they didn't vindictively & viciously go after one group or another. We're just the latest fly to land on their donut. There's a lot of money & effort that goes in to spreading Islamophobia according to a new research recently completed. It was on NPR a few days, has anyone else heard them interviewing the researchers? Apparently there are some 8 organizations or so that actively fund the spread of stereotypes & prejudices against Muslims in the U.S. Their fundings end up trickling down to rightwing bloggers and even network TV.
Here's a summary of the study and a list of the donors that partially or wholly fund the propagation of Islamophobia in America:
"It is unclear what vetting process the FBI used to approve these briefings; if any Muslim scholars contributed to them; and what criteria Quantico uses to determine Islamic expertise. “The development of effective training is a constantly evolving process,” says FBI spokesman Allen. “Sometimes the training is adapted for long-term use. This particular training segment was delivered a single time and not used since.”
Several of these briefings were the work of a single author: an FBI intelligence analyst named William Gawthrop. In 2006, before he joined the Bureau, he gave an interview to the website WorldNetDaily, and discussed some of the themes that made it into his briefings, years later. The Prophet “Muhammad’s mindset is a source for terrorism,” Gawthrop told the website, which would later distinguish itself as a leader of the “birther” movement, a conspiracy theory that denies President Obama’s American citizenship."
This program and author have already been discredited. Furthermore, two Senators are already on it.
"On Tuesday, the leaders of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security, Joe Lieberman (I-Connecticut) and Susan Collins (R-Maine), warned that law enforcement lacks “meaningful standards” to prevent anti-Islam material from seeping into counterterrorism training. Some FBI veterans suspect the increased pressure on American Muslims has a lot to do with the kind of training that Quantico offers.
“Seeing the materials FBI agents are being trained with certainly helps explain why we’ve seen so many inappropriate FBI surveillance operations broadly targeting the Muslim-American community, from infiltrating mosques with agents provocateur to racial- and ethnic-mapping programs,” Mike German, a former FBI agent now with the American Civil Liberties Union, tells Danger Room after being shown the documents. ”Biased police training can only result in biased policing.” (Full disclosure: This reporter’s wife works for the ACLU.)"
It looks like they are trying to correct their posture, so I really have to doubt the title of this thread.
