A seperate administration for Isaaqs,Hawiyes,Dir in Ethiopia
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A seperate administration for Isaaqs,Hawiyes,Dir in Ethiopia
I am personally tired of both ONLF and Ina Iley causing problems in our regions with their clannish agendas. I think its high time we lobby for a seperate administration within Ethiopia for those following three tribes. Non of us wants to be stuck forever with the likes of Ina Iley and ONLF running around the place causing chaos and scaring away investments, do we? I guess not we want a prosperity and peacefulness for our hometowns. I want to see a Daroor that looks like Phoenix Arizona, a Shinille that looks like Salt Lake City of Utah, a Awbaare that looks like Denver, a Harshin that looks like Topeka.
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Re: A seperate administration for Isaaqs,Hawiyes,Dir in Ethi
Not a bad idea. ONLF made it clear thier agenda so if clans that do not agree with them want to create thier own mamul its not a bad idea. Although i do not agree with the list of clans. I dont think it matters about which clans join it could be anyone.
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Re: A seperate administration for Isaaqs,Hawiyes,Dir in Ethi
In your dreams!
The last thing TPLF wants is to go heads on with Ogadeen clan!
Mujahid Iley, hafiidahullah, is given carte blanche to compete against ONLF on Ogadeni nationalism !
The side effect of the gigantic competition between the two is some deaths of small peripherical clans!
Mujahid Illey is the up holder of Truth; he abhorres falsehood...he is the custodian of the two mosques of Qallafo and Waardheer
Mujahid Illey u are true son Ethio, we know u work with Tplf only for tactical reasons...and we SALUTE your last actions in expanding your clans and ultimately Ethiopias boundaries
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The last thing TPLF wants is to go heads on with Ogadeen clan!
Mujahid Iley, hafiidahullah, is given carte blanche to compete against ONLF on Ogadeni nationalism !
The side effect of the gigantic competition between the two is some deaths of small peripherical clans!
Mujahid Illey is the up holder of Truth; he abhorres falsehood...he is the custodian of the two mosques of Qallafo and Waardheer

Mujahid Illey u are true son Ethio, we know u work with Tplf only for tactical reasons...and we SALUTE your last actions in expanding your clans and ultimately Ethiopias boundaries

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Re: A seperate administration for Isaaqs,Hawiyes,Dir in Ethi
Bareento is actually very right. TPLF/Ethiopia only cares about Ogaden clan, since they are the big dogs of the Somali Ethiopians. Ina Ilay and the Somali region administration is there to compete with the ONLF for the Ogadeni support and your small desires are the sacrifices for this greater ambition (getting the trust of most of Ogaadeen). "Isaaq, Hawiye, Dir" hardly really matter in Somali region of Ethiopia and your small rural settlements along the Ethiopian border really don't matter when Ethiopia is thinking about how to gain the trust of Dhegahbuur, Khelaafo, Shiilaabo, Goday, Qabri Dahare, etc. 

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Re: A seperate administration for Isaaqs,Hawiyes,Dir in Ethi
Sure Ogaden might be the biggest dog in Somali region but they do not have much bargaining chip other than the lands they sit on in Somali region. Were's Isaaq and Dir have Somaliland, Djibouti. We all know the Addis Ababa regime doesn't want to ruin its diplomatic and trade links with those two places. As for bareento his just upset that Oromos were deported from Somaliland. 

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Re: A seperate administration for Isaaqs,Hawiyes,Dir in Ethi
barento and voltage. don't underestimate the Dir and Isaaq presence in ethipoia. yes they may not be as large as Ogaden but they still have very large numbers, and as Harag said, they are an extension to Somaliland and Djibouti clans.
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Re: A seperate administration for Isaaqs,Hawiyes,Dir in Ethi
I think this guy is smoking some heavy shit because he thinks the Ogaden is SSC . The only group that can actually shout for some attention in the Ogaden is Issa because they have an entire province called Shinile.HaragWafi85 wrote:Sure Ogaden might be the biggest dog in Somali region but they do not have much bargaining chip other than the lands they sit on in Somali region. Were's Isaaq and Dir have Somaliland, Djibouti. We all know the Addis Ababa regime doesn't want to ruin its diplomatic and trade links with those two places. As for bareento his just upset that Oromos were deported from Somaliland.
Secondly the Ogaden is larger than Somaliland and Djibouti combined.
you cannot have separate admins for Isaaqs, Hawiyes and Dir because they dont leave together while the Isaaq reside in the border regions the Dir and Hawiye are Scattered all over the Ogaden.
Also to have this admins you need money and Ethiopia govt has no money to waste on satellite admins.
The only time C/Illey will be sacked is when he under performs his duty to clamp down on ONLF . Isaaq are unhappy about C/iley because he has prevented them get easy Ethiopian passports and getting a free ride because they have a pro Ethiopian policy in SL.
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Re: A seperate administration for Isaaqs,Hawiyes,Dir in Ethi
HaragWafi85 wrote:Sure Ogaden might be the biggest dog in Somali region but they do not have much bargaining chip other than the lands they sit on in Somali region. Were's Isaaq and Dir have Somaliland, Djibouti. We all know the Addis Ababa regime doesn't want to ruin its diplomatic and trade links with those two places. As for bareento his just upset that Oromos were deported from Somaliland.


For Ethiopia, u were of importance only in dismantling the old Somali Army, after that u are of no use!
besides u are not homogenous...the day u think of or only consider being against Ethio, rebell groups will pop from nowhere

Mujahid iley has more power to harm Tplf, and as such much feared than Silanyo: if Mujahid Iley joins the oppsition it will be a big blow for TPLF.
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Re: A seperate administration for Isaaqs,Hawiyes,Dir in Ethi
Issaq = DIR
DIR= cisse, gadabursi, issaq, maadigaan, akisho, gurgurey iyoo kumaa kaleeh oo badaan
DIR= cisse, gadabursi, issaq, maadigaan, akisho, gurgurey iyoo kumaa kaleeh oo badaan
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Re: A seperate administration for Isaaqs,Hawiyes,Dir in Ethi
djibsomali, you know very well who is dir and who is not goormey isaaq, gadabursi iyo ciise walaalo noqdeen. wadaag mooye ma ayagaaba shaqo isku leh.
bareento, you are an oromo further down in the pecking order in ethiopia your people were jus deported like cattle from SL and within ethiopia you are no different.Besides ethiopia is a dirt poor nation which relies on US aid and if it were not christian it would have no use for america.
bareento, you are an oromo further down in the pecking order in ethiopia your people were jus deported like cattle from SL and within ethiopia you are no different.Besides ethiopia is a dirt poor nation which relies on US aid and if it were not christian it would have no use for america.

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Re: A seperate administration for Isaaqs,Hawiyes,Dir in Ethi
gadabursi iyoo issaq walaloo maa ahaa.
Laakiin issaq waa dir (i don't know if the internet age have change it)
Laakiin issaq waa dir (i don't know if the internet age have change it)
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Re: A seperate administration for Isaaqs,Hawiyes,Dir in Ethi
qolokasta waxa la qumanaata haku dhaqaado, bal inuu ogaden wax u noqdo iyo inkalaan arkaynaa e.
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Re: A seperate administration for Isaaqs,Hawiyes,Dir in Ethi
huh, if isaaq is dir then that would make them brothers of gadabursi, but isaaq are known very well and we are not dir or irir. even dir I think are a confederation of clans there's no way gadabursi are related to biyomaal iyo balaayo kale koonfurta degen, clans that are related have some sort of connection i.e. they live near each other.djibsomali wrote:gadabursi iyoo issaq walaloo maa ahaa.
Laakiin issaq waa dir (i don't know if the internet age have change it)
as for this topic, I would never want to beg ethiopia injir leey for an administration, I would like for isaaq to start up a rebel group to reclaim our lost land (reserve area)
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Re: A seperate administration for Isaaqs,Hawiyes,Dir in Ethi
The_Patriot what are you on about? Dir and Isaaq actually do share borders in Ethiopia. The Cisse borders Gadabursi, Gadabursi borders Habar awal and the Habar awal border Arab and Garhajis.
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Re: A seperate administration for Isaaqs,Hawiyes,Dir in Ethi
But not significantly.HaragWafi85 wrote:The_Patriot what are you on about? Dir and Isaaq actually do share borders in Ethiopia. The Cisse borders Gadabursi, Gadabursi borders Habar awal and the Habar awal border Arab and Garhajis.

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