Was in a discussion for a couple hours with two people of Egyptian heritage who see Islam as primitive and the source of all the societal ills of Muslims and preventing Muslims from being in the mainstream. I think the last two semesters has really shown me what a friend of mine, who was the President of the MSA, once said and that was: "you would be surprised to find out how many of the females amongst us are not really convinced with Islam". They still call themselves Muslims btw, they just think Islam needs to be re-written like these ultra liberal folks like Mona Elhatawy or even how Ayan Hirsi harps on about this.
On women's rights, I laid out the stuff that's in the Qur'an. Why a woman can't marry a non-Muslim man? Used the rationale of what shyookh have talked about.
But shid like "why aren't there female prophets" and "why can't a woman be a leader" just piss me off and I literally had to give these niggaz a hand written list of some of the great women in Islam
They say all this in a front against patriarchal system and they believe the only purpose a woman has in Islam is to be a wife and just have kids, cause that's when she's "Really relevant"
they recognize secular humanist society is patriarchal too but are completely blind to how this society has treated women... for God's sake a woman couldn't own a house until the 1950s...
anyway im done with my mini rant... i'm just tired of debating these muslims on the fringe of atheism/agnosticism for extreme feminism or other matters...
