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Ali Matan Hashi father of Somali Air Corps

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The Somali Aeronautical Corps was the name of the Somali Air Force during the pre-independence (1954–1960) period. After 1960, when Somalia gained independence, the name changed to the Somali Air Force. The SAF at one point had the strongest airstrike capability in the Horn of Africa.

The Somali Air Force was established before Somalia's independence, and was at first equipped with a small number of Western aircraft, including Beech 18s and C-47 Dakotas for transport tasks, a few Piaggio P.148 trainers, P-51D Mustangs used as fighters, and a pair of Bell 47 Sioux helicopters.

On October 15, 1969, while paying a visit to the northern town of Las Anod, Somalia's then President Abdirashid Ali Shermarke was shot dead by one of his own bodyguards. His assassination was quickly followed by a military coup d'état on October 21, 1969 (the day after his funeral), in which the Somali Army seized power without encountering armed opposition — essentially a bloodless takeover. The push was spearheaded by Major General Mohamed Siad Barre, who at the time commanded the army. Barre then proclaimed Somalia to be a socialist state, and rapid modernization programs soon followed suit. Numerous Somali airmen were subsequently sent to train abroad in countries such as the United States, Italy, the Soviet Union, and the United Kingdom. After their training, many of these men went on to become the nation's leading instructors and fighter pilots. The Somali Air Force was at this time considered to be among the very best air forces on the continent.
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Ali Matan Hashi, the first Somali pilot and creator of the Somali Air Corps.

Inshallah our Air Corps will be rebuild :up: :som:
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Ali mataan raximuhulaah. Walaalkeen kheyr ayaan u rajeeynayaa. Waa la igaga sheekeeyay. Nin Xirfad badan ayuu ahaa. Ragaan dad nool ayee ahaayeen. Dad waxey ahaayeen magac iyo maamuus inee ku yeeshaan wadankooda rabay ayee ahaayeen. Allah u naxariisto Amiirkeena, walaalkeen, Duuliye sare Ali Mataan Hashi
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Ala ha unaxariisto, mar horuu dhintay. wiilkiisa Yasin Ali Matan wuxuu iska leeyahay makhaayada Darbo ee kutaala Columbus OH.
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Ali Mataan :som:
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XimanJaale nigger pls. . First somali pilot and somali air forces was way before late ali matan xanshi aun. first people gruop who gratuated from air force acedmy was loodkii DEEKOOW alla yaa raxma.

look first you claimed those who wrote af soomaaliga as your own qabiiil mans who wrote whole af soomaali alphabate late shire. and now your taking all other somalis achievment and giving wrongly your qabiil man. grow up man.

late Shire sababta gudiga af somaaliga qorayey loogu dhex daray waxay aheeyd according dad waxgarad ah inuu LATE SIYAAD BARE warbixin siiyo. its like if i was president of somalia 1970s inaaan MUUSE SUUDI YALAXOOW aan ku darsaday 1972 gudiga af soomali qorayey . marka CALI MATAAAN aun WAS dufcadiii LABAAAD ee ka soo qalin jabisa kuliya ciidanka cirka ee Italy.


first pilots MADAXWEYNE aadan CADE u duuliyey shirkiii wadamada afrika 1960 ka mid aheeyd CALI MATAAN waayo. pilotyadii ugu qatarsanaa ee first MADAXWEYNE AFRIKAAN AH OO DIYAARAD african pilot wadaan SOMALIA FIRST AYEYA HEEYD 1960KII .DUULIYAYAASHII waday madaxweynaha waxaa hogaaminayey deekoow.
first somali pilot who fly commercial plane was alla yaa raxma DEEKOOW. marka stop taking other peoples achievement for you wanna make QABIILKAAGA XAYEEYSIIN.

you can make XAYEEYSIIN your qabiil. but dont take others people waxa ay sameeyeen :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


sorry my friend qorax :up: :up: :up: :lol: :lol: :up:
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Dr. Yalaxoow, don't spoil Ximan's party. Let the guy enjoy the moment with his cheap whiskey.

Ka dhex dadkaan isboortiibatooda.
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Ileen Dr Yalaxoow waa iska jaahil.

First of all Shire Jaamac was not in the committee to choose the script in 60's because it would have been unfair. His script was in competition representing Latin. Shire's claim to writing Somali script isn't because he was part of the final committee in 1972. As early as 1964, non Somalis were using Shire's Somali script as the unofficial best indigenous script to write Af-Somali.

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You are confused between the committe that actually chose which one of the scripts for Somalis, versus the scripts that were competing (Shire's Latin, Arabic, Kaddare, Osmania, etc).

Secondly, every Somali knows Cali Mataan was the first Somali to fly and he built and was the only head of the Somali air force from 1960 and until his death. Ku lahaa, in 1960 hebel was flying hebel. Do you know even the first flight in independent Somalia in 1960 between Hargeisa and Mogadishu was called Cali Mataan airways in honor of him?
15/09/60, waa maalintii sida rasmiga ah loo bilaabay dulimaadki toddobaadki laba jeer isku xirijiray labada caasimadood Muqdishow iyo Hargeysa. Duulimaadkaas oo reer Hargeysa ku magacaabi jireen: Calimataan Airways"

http://www.ceegaag.com/fiinyarebackup/Q ... a_soom.htm
Mareeg is an Abgaal site, Cali Mataan as commander of the Somali Air force leading them into the first war against Ethiopia
23/02/64, waa xilligii uu socday dagaalkii 1964 tii. Waa capo hangarki Hareed iyo kooxdiisi ku caanka baxday (saaxiriinti Dakotada), magacuu ku sharfay 1963 taliyihii C.Cirka duuliye Cali Mataan Xaashi

http://www.mareeg.com/somaliaAirforce.html
Cali Mataan giving the first distinct organization name of the Somali airforce
Siddeedaas diy/dood Shan ka midahi waxay ahaayeen kuwa xamuulka lagu qaado oo habeenkaas aan u kala bixinay figrad uu soo jediyay darteed duuliye Cali Mataan Xaashi magacyada hoos dadabka ugu tixan: Sarreeya, Saramara, Samawada, Saaxil iyo Sacadaddiin

http://www.mareeg.com/somaliaAirforce.html
Also, the author a former Somali pilot saying he was part of the first batch to be sent out of Somalia to train as a pilot in 1957and they were saw off at the airport by their teacher in Somalia Cali Mataan
7/11/57, waa maalinti aan ka bixitimaynay gegida caalamiga ee Muqdishow, waa unugii 1aad ee ka kooban 32 arday oo saddex mooyee inta kalna ka baxeen dugsigii farsamada gacanta ex.(Scuola Industriale) oo u socda dalka Talyaaniga si loo soo baro xirfadaha kala geddisan ee diyaaradaha. Midig: duuliye Cali Mataan Xaashi oo ardayda sagootinaya

http://www.mareeg.com/somaliaAirforce.html
So you see Dr Yalaxoow, separate your uneducated opinion from facts even your clan websites write.
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Voltage wrote:Ileen Dr Yalaxoow waa iska jaahil.

he was part of the first batch to be sent out of Somalia to train as a pilot in 1957and they were saw off at the airport by their teacher in Somalia Cali Mataan
7/11/57, waa maalinti aan ka bixitimaynay gegida caalamiga ee Muqdishow, waa unugii 1aad ee ka kooban 32 arday oo saddex mooyee inta kalna ka baxeen dugsigii farsamada gacanta ex.(Scuola Industriale) oo u socda dalka Talyaaniga si loo soo baro xirfadaha kala geddisan ee diyaaradaha. Midig: duuliye Cali Mataan Xaashi oo ardayda sagootinaya

http://www.mareeg.com/somaliaAirforce.html
So you see Dr Yalaxoow, separate your uneducated opinion from facts even your clan websites write.
The first somali pilot trainee which was send to Italy was not 1957, actually it was 3 years before that 1954. and LATE cali xaanshi was not even part of that.
ALI xaanshi was not leading mans of somali air forces. the only reason he become famous is 1969 when Late siyaad barre become Somali president he nominated hes INA ADEEER late ali matan aun for pure Nepotism to become TALIYAHA CIIDANKA CIRKA SOMALIA.


and about shire. as i said afka soomaaliga qoritaankiisii yes shire wuxuu ka mid ahaaa gudigiii qoriska afka soomaaliga, laakiin xaqiiqdii maaha qabiiil naceyb, shire alla yaa raxma sababta ugu weeyn ee u uga mid noqday waa again NEPOTISM. waayo ina adeerkiis was the leader of the nation.


fiiri eeg CIIDANKA CIRKA JAMHUURIYADA SOMALIA was xitaa markuu LATE CALI MATAAAN geeriyooday waxaa ka dhaxlay ina adeerkiis kale GENERAL DHUUDHI. marka ha isku qaldin nin somaali oo dhan u Qirto inuu ahaa AABAHA CIIDANKA SIDA late GENERAL DAAUUUD oo qabiil waliba u qirayo inuu ahaa aabihii aas aasaha ciidanka qalabka sida iyo nin ay qabiiilkiisa faaninayaan, ama aabaha abwaanada sida TIMACADE AND HADRAAAWI.ama AABAHA halgamayaasha sayid maxamed abdulla xasan, sh xasan barsane, ama aabaha sportiga ORDAAGA ABDI BILE ABDI ragg soomaalida oo dhan u qirto inay ahaayeen LEADING PEOPLE. laakiin faanis adeernimo ahahaha waa anigoo FAANIYEY muuse suudi yalaxoow. ee aan titel uu laheeyn aan Madaxa ka saaro.

taa micno weeyn ma sameeyneyso.
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Ciidamadii Cirka Soomaaliya




first somali pilots trianees. 1954, and late mataan Aun Was not part of that



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FIRST SOMALI PILOTS 1954 :up:
Safka dambe midig: Cabdullaahi Rooble Carraale�tootoo�,Cumar Ciise Max�ed, Xuseen Cabdulle Cali, Xuseen Saciid Cabdi, Axmed Sheikh Xasan�Hareed�, Max�ed Yuusuf Cali, Cali Daa�uud, Cali Cabdulle Nuur, safka hore ee kadkallooba midig: Maxamed Qaasim Cabdurabbow, Saciid Maxamed Ibraahim�Ayax�, Maxamed Maxamuud Cali �Weli�, Maxamed Nuur �Dhuudhi�, Ibraahim Cabdi Maxamed
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I swear this guy cannot read if his life depended on it. First of all the picture you post has as a caption 1958. Do you notice your "Deekoow" was actually trained in 1958?!
23/3/58, waa gegidii diyaradaha ee (Capo di Chino, Napoli, Italia), waa maalintii ugu horreysay ee nalgu qaado diyaarad mileteri (Savoia Marchetti 82), si aan u qabatino xaaladaha nagu cusub ee duulimaadku keeno sida yalaalugada iyo lalabada waqtigay hawadu kacsan tahay iyo sida loogu boodo dalladaha goortay ku timaado diyaaradda cillad aan laga raja qabin in la badbaadiyo oo ay timaado nin walbow nafsadaada la baxso ama “ku jirow ka bax” Safka dambe midig: Max’ed Cabdi Cilmi”Xorxorre, Cumar Macallim Cabdulle”Janiin”, Cumar Ciise Max’ed, Axmed Jilacow Maxamed “Teenis”, Cabdurabbow, Maxamed Yuusuf Cali, Axmed Maxamed Ciise”Ilgiir”, Ciise Tarambi Ugaas, Maxamed “Weli, Cabdullaahi Cabdi Camalow, M. N. Dhuudhi, Shariif Cabdulqaadir Xasan”Deekow”, arday Talyaaniya, Cali Daa’uud, Axmed Ciise Cabdi, Safka hore kadkadalloba midig:Yuusuf Max’ed Cusmaan”Tunji”, Cabdullaahi Rooble Carraale”tootoo”, Axmed Cali Aaden”Goobbe”, Maxamed Xaaji Saalax, Saciid Maxamed Ibraahim”Ayax”, Maxamed Gaaid Xasan, Ibraahim Cabdi Maxamed, Axmed Hareed iyo kan cuskan xuxulka bidixda Maxamed Haaji “Baraako”.
Secondly, the first official 5 Somalis in 1954 in the same source you posted which you say does not include Cali Mataan actually does:
1954, waa (Stinson L.5 Sentinel) oo ah diyaaraddii 1aad ee lagu tababaro afar ka mid ah shanti duuliyee ugu horreyay ee dalkeenna lagu carbiyo kana mid noqday tiirarki udub dhexaadka u noqday unkintii C. Cirka: Cali Mataan Xaashi, Cali Jaamac Cali, Maxamud Cabdullaahi Barre iyo Cabdullaahi Cilmi (Cabdulaahi Uuseey), midka shanaad oo ahaay Axmad Sheikh Macow wuxuu si toos tababarka ugu qaatay 1956dii dalka Talyaaniga halka afarta kor xusana ay tababarki labaad ee diy/ha laba matooreeyda ah ku qaateen dalka Talyaaniga 1956.
Thirdly, even before official capacity Cali Mataan was the first to fly unofficially inside of Somalia and you say Siad Barre made him Taliyaha Ciidanka Cirka when in 1963, this former Somali pilot references Cali Mataan as their commander of the airforce and always says that the first Somali national flight between Hargeisa and Mogadishu was called Cali Mataan airways
23/02/64, waa xilligii uu socday dagaalkii 1964 tii. Waa capo hangarki Hareed iyo kooxdiisi ku caanka baxday (saaxiriinti Dakotada), magacuu ku sharfay 1963 taliyihii C.Cirka duuliye Cali Mataan Xaashi

http://www.mareeg.com/somaliaAirforce.html
15/09/60, waa maalintii sida rasmiga ah loo bilaabay dulimaadki toddobaadki laba jeer isku xirijiray labada caasimadood Muqdishow iyo Hargeysa. Duulimaadkaas oo reer Hargeysa ku magacaabi jireen: Calimataan Airways"

http://www.ceegaag.com/fiinyarebackup/Q ... a_soom.htm
For God's sake go learn how to read! From everyone else who posted to your own clan websites to former Somali pilots, they are all saying the same thing. The problem is you who is trying to force Somali history for the guy you want.
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and about shire. as i said afka soomaaliga qoritaankiisii yes shire wuxuu ka mid ahaaa gudigiii qoriska afka soomaaliga, laakiin xaqiiqdii maaha qabiiil naceyb, shire alla yaa raxma sababta ugu weeyn ee u uga mid noqday waa again NEPOTISM. waayo ina adeerkiis was the leader of the nation.
Gudiga did not write Somali! Gudiga was choosing which one of the scripts would be chosen. Many were in competition from Shire modified Latin to Arabic to Kaddare to Osmaniya, etc. The committe's job was only to choose which one would become the national script, they didn't write the scripts in competition. Arabic was Arabic, latin was the one modified by Shire, Kaddare was made by Sheikh Ahmed Kaddare, Osmaniya was made by ina Kenadadid.

You need to separate the "committee" (guddi) that was to choose among the scripts and the actual brains behinds the scripts. Your problem is lack of inability to differentiate such protocol.
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Dr Yalaxoow, wallahi I didn't take you as one of those with phobia about Siad Barre and waad gaftay Cali Mataan, the father of the Somali Airforce. Here a Somali air force man remembers him in his picture memoi
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Photo of the head of the hangar units, Hared and his team popularly credited for performance in maintenance of Dakota (23/02/64). The commander of the Somalia air force, col. Ali Matan Hashi has recognized their excellence in technical maintenance and upgrading of the airplanes for mid-air fight, this was at the height of the 1964 war with Ethiopia.

http://somavires.org/history2.html
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I'm surprised people haven't started claiming Siyaad Barre was a fabrication of the Kacaan regime :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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