What do the Ahmed Madoobe loyalists think of this?

[Voltage]

"We are determined to cleanse al Shabaab from Kismayu and then from all of Somalia," General Yusuf Hussein Dumaal, head of government troops in southern Somalia, told Reuters by phone from Taabto village on Wednesday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/ ... PT20111019

Absolute proof that the Kenyan-trained Somali troops from Isiolo military base in Lower Jubba are majority Marehan and minority Garre as even you guys have admitted. You have Dhuumaal (rer Ahmed/Marehan) as the main head with guys like Col Cabaas (Talxe/Marehan) and Col Fartaag (rer Ugas Shermarke/Marehan) as his deputies. In fact, Col Abdi Mahdi is the only Ogaden commander in it and from what I have read from guys like New York/Shift you guys are not even fans of his. Even while in Dhooblay together, the positions were crossed between Ras Kamboni (Ogaden) and "TFG troops" (mostly Marehan) and they clashed a couple of times prior.

You also have a largely organized Marehan troop (Dollow camp) who control all parts of Gedo except Baardheere. If you put down pride for a second, do you not see now why Ahmed Madoobe has been very open to trying to politically ally with Marehan something both Patriot and Shift have been attacking him for in the joint Dollow-Madoobe reconciliation initiative? If the fighters in Lower Jubba are shared and Gedo has a 100% Marehan troop composition and Al Shabaab is removed from the land and in the eventuality of going back to clan warfare, are the Sade then not in the best advantage still in Jubbaland as a whole and in Kismaayo?

It makes sense for Madoobe to compromise with the Marehan.

[Voltage]

So let us get this straight;

Ogaden feelings about the Marehan trained by Kenya (Isiolo camp)



The Marehan in Kismaayo still being quite beholden to Marehan interest



The Marehan using Al Shabaab to still stay influential in Kismaayo



Ogaden also realizing they need to work with Marehan




1. Ethiopia is very much in support of the Marehan being dominant of Jubbaland.
2. The Kenyan attempts to get involved result in a majority Marehan-trained group with the Marehan commanders leading the Somali side right now of their movements there.
3. Al Shabaab in Kismaayo also being pro-Marehan out of their own necessity.

Which led to an organized Marehan force now in control of almost all of Gedo, very intrenched military position now in Lower Jubba complimenting Dollow group, and on the other side a sizable influence on the Al Shabaab side in Kismaayo which can shift very quickly towards Marehan-interest.

Again, why wouldn't the Ogaden/Ahmed Madoobe compromise with the Marehan for the benefit of both as Ahmed Madoobe has recently been pursuing instead of sticking to pride which will get no one anywhere?

[The_Patriot]

Voltage are you turning into Ximan

[LobsterUnit]

Voltage, I mean Peter the Kenyan, relax, we got your point: Marehan runs the world. Just let me us know when they take over Nigeria.

[ina aadan]

Voltage, I mean Peter the Kenyan, relax, we got your point: Marehan runs the world. Just let me us know when they take over Nigeria.

[hanqadh]

[SahanGalbeed]

[Shift]

This guy is nuts,marexaan are turning into tom hanks in that movie where he is stranded on a island trying to wify a vollyeball.

[XimanJaale]

Wallahi many members in this forum have Marehan-phobia. We have iidoor members giggling like girls and we have dumb cagdheers laughing alongside them.


Beesha Cagdheer man up/smarten up!, stop the giggles and answer Voltage's question properly

Beesha iidoor, the exit is that way

[The_Patriot]

Wallahi many members in this forum have Marehan-phobia. We have iidoor members giggling like girls and we have dumb cagdheers laughing alongside them.


Beesha Cagdheer man up/smarten up!, stop the giggles and answer Voltage's question properly

Beesha iidoor, the exit is that way

Ina nuur WTF are you doing here ?

[Voltage]

I feel like this should have been a private discussion so we can be really honest with each other.

[Shift]

It can still be it,lakiin waxaan la yaabay dhumaal iyo waxan aad sheegi The guy gave a statement on behalf of tfg,how you took that as marexaan domination of the forces is beyond me awoow.

[Voltage]

About the former disagreements in Dhooblay between the Kenyan trained TFG troops and Ras Kamboni:

Another resident in Dhobley, who spoke to Somalia Report on condition of anonymity, said the fighting was based on a clan rift between the Marehan and Ogaden clans. The two sides are fighting over who will get to control the Lower and Middle Juba regions, provided they can seize them from militant Islamist group al-Shabaab.

“Most of TFG soldiers are Marehan clan, and all Ras Kamboni fighters are Ogaden, so there is a long-standing conflict between the two clans based on the ownership of the two regions” he said, “But they are fighting for what is not in hand, because al-Shabaab is still controlling those regions”.

Somalia report

http://www.somaliareport.com/index.php/ ... adcfbd3eac

I haven't even mentioned clans like Gaaljecel, Shiiqaal, and Bartire who are generally allied with Marehan in Lower Jubba. In fact even Awlyahan which is the Ogaden clan that neighbors Marehan in Middle Jubba more liable to see commonalities than differences with their neighbors to the north. Let us just be real, it is only really Maxamed Subeer that is heavily anti-Marehan in Kismaayo if we take out the 2.5 Majerten persons left.

Why would compromise be thought of as a negative thing then by you guys?

[Shift]

Lets slow down first wax badan baad isku dhex wadaa.Kismaayo horta dhinac naga dhig,ragbaa meeshaa heysta kana taliya.The trained troops were split into two groups,a group of absame/sade and garre were sent to ceelwaaq,the second group of absame iyo sade were sent to jubadahoose.From there on after endless fueds between the groups waxaa la isku raacay kuwa absame ee ceelwaaq jooga iney jubadahoose soo aadaan,kuwi marexaan ee jubbadahoose na waa kuwii raacay cabaas oo u gudbay ceelwaaq.Those azanian troops ee shaatiga tfg xiran ee ku sugan jubadahoose are absame with complete absame leadership under the former governer ilyas badal.Jubadahoose waxa isku riix riixaya waa azania iyo kambooni who can't agree on anything,lakiin marexaan have long went back to their degaan awoow.

Why would compromise be thought of as a negative thing then by you guys?

Ninka diidan wada tashi ilama aha inuu yahay absame.

[Voltage]

Waa hagaag. You have analyzed perfectly, legitimately, and forthrightly and that's really the last ink in the line.