I never laughed this hard.

grandpakhalif · Post by **grandpakhalif** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:55 am

Wallahi this reminded me of Nanees arguing for demenstrations, Wheres your evidence: "I saw it in the Message"

[youtube]ZNTP4K-WyNw&feature=related[/youtube]

go to 3:30

Nanees · Post by **Nanees** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:57 am

thanks for the hasanaat

grandpakhalif · Post by **grandpakhalif** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:02 am

Hahhaa

no wonder the ummah is like this.

Keyblade · Post by **Keyblade** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:04 am

'who is the saved sect'

'salaficentre.co.uk
salafiaudio.com
salafipublications.com'

grandpakhalif wrote:"If he means I am Salafi that he follows the Salaf without intending any new hizb which accuses dissidents of being astray then he is correct"

wut

Nanees · Post by **Nanees** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:07 am

Look, "It is an invention of the west" is NOT a suitable reason to declare something haram. Support your claim markaa, show evidence that protesting is haram. Show me hadith, show me ayats of the quran. Show me anything other than "it is an invention of the kufaar".

grandpakhalif · Post by **grandpakhalif** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:08 am

I don't see the contradiction.

grandpakhalif · Post by **grandpakhalif** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:09 am

Nanees wrote:Look, "It is an invention of the west" is NOT a suitable reason to declare something haram. Support your claim markaa, show evidence that protesting is haram. Show me hadith, show me ayats of the quran. Show me anything other than "it is an invention of the kufaar".

The burden of proof is upon you, I am not claiming it to be part of Islam, you are.

Nanees · Post by **Nanees** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:10 am

Keyblade wrote:'who is the saved sect'

'salaficentre.co.uk
salafiaudio.com
salafipublications.com'

grandpakhalif wrote:"If he means I am Salafi that he follows the Salaf without intending any new hizb which accuses dissidents of being astray then he is correct"
wut

he's confused, for months he's been calling me a transgressor for saying that evolution isnt haram lakiin he hasnt defined evolution once for me, but keeps repeating that evolution means we came from apes which is just not correct.

furthermore he backbites, insults muslims and has even gone so far as to label some muslims on this forum 'athiests' and 'gaal'.

Pride and arrogance are enough to take one out of the fold of correct islam, just as much as ignorance.

Nanees · Post by **Nanees** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:11 am

grandpakhalif wrote:
Nanees wrote:Look, "It is an invention of the west" is NOT a suitable reason to declare something haram. Support your claim markaa, show evidence that protesting is haram. Show me hadith, show me ayats of the quran. Show me anything other than "it is an invention of the kufaar".
The burden of proof is upon you, I am not claiming it to be part of Islam, you are.

the 'burden' of proof is on the one who says something is forbidden. thats common knowledge, so either show daleel that it is forbidden or stop spreading lies about Islam. there are few sins greater than lying about Islam, if your gonna walk around releasing fatwas bro, support them.

grandpakhalif · Post by **grandpakhalif** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:14 am

Where is your evidence that protesting is Halal? I already brought you many tapes of the culuma like Sh Naasir-ud diin Al-Albaani the Mujadid and Muhaddith of our time supporting my view

[youtube]slYdcxaNMV8&feature=plcp&context=C3815e79UDOEgsToPDskJhgsMwEq0hJx_v9m3Ihb3-[/youtube]

Who supports your view? ?????? You bring proof that it is halal.

grandpakhalif · Post by **grandpakhalif** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:15 am

Nanees are you accusing the culuma of being liars, spreading falsehood of the religion? The ones whom the Prophet said are the inheritors of the Prophets. Subhanallah.

Nanees · Post by **Nanees** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:18 am

Thats a cute video, but it didnt contain a single hadith or ayat from the quran.

why are you sensalizing my simplest statements to the point of kufaar. Did I accuse anybody of lying?

did I insult the culeema? Show me where I did this. I asked for daleel, which is a right of a believer over even the most learned of culeema.

grandpakhalif · Post by **grandpakhalif** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:25 am

Nanees you don't understand, Anything the Prophet didn't do or His sahaba is not from Islam the lack of daleel makes it Haram. It is you who needs yo bring daleel that it is permissible.

Listen to the sheikh, he says that you follow the kuffar by doing this not the Prophet or the Salaf:

This is a well known established fact based off the hadith:

“Whoever imitates a people, then he is one of them.”

Sahiih!

Do you agree with this or no. We will take babysteps.

Nanees · Post by **Nanees** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:31 am

Before I can tell you if I agree, can you explain a bit further?

Are you stating that unless there is proof of the prophet PBUH or his sahaba RA doing something, then we must assume it is haram for us to do?

Based · Post by **Based** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:31 am

That's idiotic.

Didn't the prophet protest against the injustice of the Meccan elites?

How is protesting against injustice going against Islam, when Islam orders people to stand firm against injustice everywhere?

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