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The action of Saudi King explained

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Many ignorant individuals have been spreading many lies about Saudi Arabia claiming their rulers are kuffar because they allied with Americans to defeat the mulhim Saddam Hussein, brother Abu khadeejah explains this praiseworthy act:


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start from 5:22

continue great hadiths to support:

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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

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Brother , the Saudis have been commiting crimes 300 years ago!
Sa’ud came out from his den to the courthouse when the Damascene caravan went two or three days’ way away from Medina. Without even a tremble of his dark, stony heart, he let his bandits plunder the precious gifts; the works of art of great historical value; invaluable pieces of art gilded with gold and inlaid with jewels and with precious stones; and select copies of the Qur’an al-karim and rare books, which had been kept in Rasulullah’s (s)blessed shrine and in the treasure of Masjid an-Nabawi that had been sent as choice, elaborate gifts by Muslim sultans, commanders, artists and ‘ulama’ from the whole Muslim world over a millennium. The fire of hatred in him against the Muslims did not calm down even after this shameful vileness of his, and he went on demolishing the remaining graves belonging to the Sahabis and martyrs. Although he attempted to demolish the dome of Rasulullah’s(s) blessed shrine, the Muslims’ cries and entreaties made him give up; yet he ruined the Shabakat as-Saada, fortunately not touching the walls

He (Saud) ordered that the walls around Medina should be repaired. He assembled the Medinans in Masjid an-Nabi. He closed the gates of the Masjid and delivered the following speech on the dais:

“Oh congregation! I have summoned you here to advise you and to warn you to obey my orders. Oh people of Medina! Your religion has now been completed. You became Muslims. You pleased Allah. Do not ever admire the false religion of your fathers and grandfathers any more! Do not pray to Allah to show mercy upon them! They all died as polytheists. They all were polytheists. I have explained how you should worship and pray to Allah in the books which I gave to your men of religious authority. It should be known that your possessions, children, wives and blood are mubah for my soldiers if you do not obey my men of religious authority! They will chain and torture all of you to death. It is forbidden in the religion of Islam to stand in front of the Prophet’s(s) shrine with an attitude of respect to say salat and salam as your grandfathers used to do. You must not stand in front of the shrine, but walk away and say only, ‘As-salamu ‘ala Muhammad,’ while passing by. According to the ijtihad of our imam Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhab, this much respect is sufficient for the Prophet(s).”
May allah curse such people, walya3uudubilaah.
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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

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May Allah curse you terrorist faggot.
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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

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Brother AbuukarSubeer, let us try to post original thought in this forum instead of novel length "tl;dr" fatwas, ok? grazie
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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

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What an Imbecile (Abu Khadeejah) these are the words of the prophet and Allah in this matter!

They will leave the Deen just as an arrow leaves the bowstring. They will kill the Muslims but spare the idolaters. If I ever confronted these people I would slaughter them just as the people of Aad had been destroyed
Supporting a kuffar army means to share the sin and punishments of those perpertrating aggression in other muslim countries, and this is what Saudi Arabia supports, the prophet said he would slaughter THEM (saudis) if he ever confronted them.
And in Judgement day you cannot say to Allah " The reason why i allied myself with those you told me not to, is because he attacked me first", What Allah says is what is Haqq, OBEY ALLAH, and you shall suceed, the saudis however didn't, they simply didn't even lend an ear to Qur'an, Suratul Maidah, verse no.55 :

O believers, do not take the Jews and the Christians as your friends and protectors, they are friends of each other. And whoever makes them a friend then he is from amongst them. Verily God does not guide the unjust people. And you will see that those (Muslims) in whose hearts is a disease run towards them saying 'We fear that a calamity may befall us.' So God will soon bring victory or a decision from Him, causing them regret on account of the thoughts they harbored in their hearts." (Quran 5:51-52)

Allah says whoever allies with them, is WITH THEM, and not with Allah, so bye-bye, Saudi Arabia and Abu Khadeejah, and Ibn Baaz, for you have deviated from the AhlulSunnat, and Allah knows best.
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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

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AbubakarTerrorist, I'm not here to argue about your misused hadiths, lol @ cutting the top part of the first part of the bolded hadith, ommision is lying against the Prophet. Clearly that hadith is referring to individuals like you who hastily make takfir upon the rulers and revolt against them.

Secondly, the Prophet said the following:

Hadith – Reported by Ahmad (3/403) and Ibn Abee ‘Aasim (2/521) with a saheeh isnaad. It is authentically reported from the Messenger in the hadeeth of ‘Iyaad ibn Ghunum who said, “The Messenger of Allaah (saaws) said, ‘Whoever desires to advise the one with authority then he should not do so openly, rather he should take him by the hand and take him into seclusion (and then advise him). And if he accepts (the advice) from him then (he has achieved his objective) and if not, then he has fulfilled that which was a duty upon him
You are directly opposing the Prophet by criticizing King Abdullah openly.
The Prophet (salallaahu'alayheewasallam) said, "Whosoever sees something from his leader of sin, then let him hate whatever occurs from sin. And let him not remove his hand from obedience, since whoever removes his hand from disobedience and splits off from the Jamaa’ah (united body), then he dies the death of Jaahiliyyah (pre-Islaamic times of ignorance)’’ Related by al-Bukhaaree (13/5) and Muslim (no. 1849
The Prophet emphasizes obeying the Ruler even if he is sinful.

The Prophet (salallaahu'alayheewasallam) said ‘‘The person must obey in whatever he loves, and in whatever he hates, in ease and in hardship, in willingness and un-willingness; except if he is commanded to disobey Allaah. So if he is commanded to disobey Allaah, then he should not listen, not should he obey.’’ Related by al-Bukhaaree (4/203)
The Prophet SAWS, commands obedience except if he disobeys Allah.
The Companions asked him: O Messenger of Allaah! When you mentioned that there will be rulers, ‘you will approve of some things from them, and disapprove of others things.’ They said: So what do you command us to do? He said: ‘‘Give them their right, and invoke Allaah, since He is with you.’’
’Ubaadah (radiyallaahu ’anhu) said: ‘‘We gave the oath of allegiance to the Messenger of Allaah that we would not oppose the command, not its people.’’ He said: ‘‘Except if you were to see clear disbelief (kufran bawaahan) about which you have a proof from Allaah.’’ Related by Muslim (6/17)
The Prophet said obey the ruler unless you see clear disbelief which you have proof from Allah.

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Imam Barbaharee on those who speak against the rulers:
Al-Barbahârî (Sharh Al-Sunnah p113, 114) states, “If you see a man supplicating against the ruler, know that he is a heretic (sahib hawâ), and if you see a man supplicating for the ruler, know that he is a Sunni – inshâ Allâh.”
Mashallah.

Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal on those who openly attack the rulers:
Ahmed ibn Hanbal said: Attacking the honour of Rulers and occupying oneself with reviling them & mentioning their shortcomings is a very big mistake & a repugnant sin: The purified revealtion has forbidden it & has censured the one who does so” {Foundations of The Sunnah pg 139}

So many proofs, this is the true Islam, alhamdullilah.
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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

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Brother, have you forgotton something, KING ABDULLAH IS NOT MY KING, I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THE UK. And besides, How Saudi Arabia came about was completley out of invading medina and mecca, taif and fighting and insulting the noble Ussmaniya Caliphate, which totally goes against the hadith itself , you are contradicting yourself brother, go back and write a more sensible post.
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Who the hell cares how Saudi Arabia came about? Shit fowqal shit its like talking to a donkey! You wanna spread more bloodshed and take out House of Saud? Killing muslims? Blowing up buildings and palaces? What kind of islam is this?
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grandpakhalif wrote:Who the hell cares how Saudi Arabia came about? Shit fowqal shit its like talking to a donkey! You wanna spread more bloodshed and take out House of Saud? Killing muslims? Blowing up buildings and palaces? What kind of islam is this?
No i do not, the House of Sau'd will disintigrate in the near future on its own (Alxamdulilah)
After the death of a Ruler there will be some dispute between the people. At that time a citizen of Madina will flee (from Madina) and go to Makkah. While in Makkah, certain people will approach him between Hajrul Aswad and Maqaame Ibraheem, and forcefully pledge their allegiance to him.

Thereafter a huge army will proceed from Syria to attack him but when they will be at Baida, which is between Makkah and Madina, they will be swallowed into the ground.

On seeing this, the Abdaals of Shaam as well as large numbers of people from Iraq will come to him and pledge their allegiance to him. Then a person from the Quraish, whose uncle will be from the Bani Kalb tribe will send an army to attack him, only to be overpowered, by the will of Allah. This (defeated) army will be that of the Bani Kalb. Unfortunate indeed is he who does not receive a share from the booty of the Kalb. This person (Imam Mahdi) will distribute the spoils of war after the battle. He will lead the people according to the Sunnat and during his reign Islam will spread throughout the world. He will remain till seven years (since his emergence). He will pass away and the Muslims will perform his Janazah salaat.
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The Prophet said after the death of a ruler, i think this ruler is a saudi, and when he dies, the true muslim , the descendent of the prophet, will restore, the caliphate. That, my brother is the true islam.
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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

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"Allowing America into the holy land was not a sin but praiseworthy"?

WTF?

Seem like union did a one hell of a job on grandpachichiman.
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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

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Kukri wrote:"Allowing America into the holy land was not a sin but praiseworthy"?

WTF?

Seem like union did a one hell of a job on grandpachichiman.
These Saudis are none other then what the prophet said they were " The Horns of Satan"
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"I think" "I think" doesn't cut it kiddo, May the House of Saud stay in power for centuries to come. Amiin dheh.
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grandpakhalif wrote:"I think" "I think" doesn't cut it kiddo, May the House of Saud stay in power for centuries to come. Amiin dheh.
In about a centruries time the world will be gone :lol: , Dajjals arive is around 30-50 years from now :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The action of Saudi King explained

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AbuukarSubeer wrote:
Kukri wrote:"Allowing America into the holy land was not a sin but praiseworthy"?

WTF?

Seem like union did a one hell of a job on grandpachichiman.
These Saudis are none other then what the prophet said they were " The Horns of Satan"
Horn sound like a compliment, they are the ana'l of satan.
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