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Somalis Lacking Identity?

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:26 pm
by S_lander-boy
Somalia in the verge of Identity Crisis:

Our own Somali language has been diluted so much to the point that our heritage and cultural values are in the risk of becoming extinct. A nation that was once vibrant and proud has been brought to its knees by its own people and by others who have seized the opportunity.

So, what is left for us?

What/Who are we waiting for?

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:39 pm
by S_lander-boy
lol Its to hard to handle huh I understand Laughing

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:47 pm
by Sir-Luggoyo
Landerboy,

I beg to differ, Somali language is as rich as it always was, and will be. There was never a standard Somali language as in the Arabic language, where the language of the Qur'an is considered to be the standard. Every region has their own distinct dialect, plus the slang promoted by the younger generations in every language on the face of the earth and in that case, it's an evolution no one is safe from.

Besides, as long as there is S-Land and Oganden, the roots of the language will always be there.

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:00 pm
by +chilli
where you coming from..our laugauge lost?? its as rich as it ever been...i never seen ppl take so much pride in their lauguage as we do...waalahi our youth talk in it while others hide it or dilute it with english lool


And somalis having identity crisis....lool never heard of it...have you seen how obsessed we are with our identity?...

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:02 pm
by S_lander-boy
Sir-Luggoyo"Your right Somali langauge will never die sxb!!

Luggoyo" you got point there sxb but read this Article very interesting

http://www.afrol.com/articles/13719

The somalis in the west not all have turned into a generation in need of "daqaan caliis"(including my damn self) Anyways lets hear your take on this, and please no preteens that can not conjugate a sentence, this is a serious topic...what i dont get. pakistanis for example have resided in the west longer than us, some 5th generation, yet they have their deen and culture intact, same could be said for the arabs, yet somalis, we just got here 5 minutes ago, and look at us. we have the most unique culture out there, yet we want to replace it with westeren bullshed and 50 cent and emulating video hoes ??

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:02 pm
by kambuli
Sir,

Ogadens and Reer waqooyi are not the only guardians of our Language. Somali language is beautiful in its own way for every region. I actually enjoy everyone of them. Although I do not fully understand the mai one.

It wasn,t right when a teacher from waqooyiga comes to Mogadisho and tells one of the students to speak proper Somali.

Waar af Somali hagaagsan ku hadal!!!

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:13 pm
by Sir-Luggoyo
[quote="kambuli"]Sir,

Ogadens and Reer waqooyi are not the only guardians of our Language. Somali language is beautiful in its own way for every region. I actually enjoy everyone of them. Although I do not fully understand the mai one.

It wasn,t right when a teacher from waqooyiga comes to Mogadisho and tells one of the students to speak proper Somali.

Waar af Somali hagaagsan ku hadal!!!

[/quote]

And then you call him "Qaldaan wiif waaxid" in a muffled voice Laughing Laughing Laughing I know.

If you research the origins of the language in terms of orally transmitted stories, riddles, poems and proverbs, they all tend to be based on either of the two above mentioned regions. Even though other ethnic dialects have their own versions of either similar or distorted version, it all comes back to the said regions, I am not biased but stating the fact of the matter.

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:30 pm
by optimist_1
Here we go again you guy have no clue where the somali language came from. Luggoyo kulaha fact cajiib. Well i say it came from the shabeel region

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:49 pm
by Sir-Luggoyo
[quote="optimist_1"]

Here we go again you guy have no clue where the somali language came from. Luggoyo kulaha fact cajiib. Well i say it came from the shabeel region

[/quote]

Well Opti, if you think my analogy is inconsistent with the believe you have about the topic in hand, simply enlighten me without resorting to sarcasm and belittling Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

And fyi, Shabeel is an animal, not a location, neither people, so would you care to elaborate?

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:03 pm
by optimist_1
[quote="Sir-Luggoyo"][quote="optimist_1"]

Here we go again you guy have no clue where the somali language came from. Luggoyo kulaha fact cajiib. Well i say it came from the shabeel region

[/quote]

Well Opti, if you think my analogy is inconsistent with the believe you have about the topic in hand, simply enlighten me without resorting to sarcasm and belittling Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

And fyi, Shabeel is an animal, not a location, neither people, so would you care to elaborate?[/quote]

Shabeellaha provinces.

However the now called ogaden region may show our relation to the Oromo. Also the Nubians from Egypt damn i started talking almost somali to them Laughing

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:06 pm
by Sir-Luggoyo
Opti,

There are two Shabelle provinces, Shabellaha Dhexe (Jowhar) and Shabeelada Hoose (Marka Caddeey) which one is your take?

Please tell me you are joking!!!!

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:15 pm
by optimist_1
Luggoyo how could u say Marka when its full of reer xamar cad cad man they speak good somali. I dont think so.

Why would i be joking Laughing Razz . I think the Abgaal speak the most correct somali Very Happy except the daud and their idoor accent

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:23 pm
by kambuli
Sir,

Somaalida inteeda kale waan la qorin warkooda. Waxayse ila tahay inaan lakala yareysan.

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:02 pm
by S_lander-boy
You are all useless whats wrong with you somalis???