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Ancient Punt was Monotheist and spoke Somali

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The ancient Egyptian name "Pwnt" for the horn of Africa has always been something of an awkward term. The ancient Egyptians referred to the horn of Africa in two ways. One was the proper noun Pwnt (the -t means land), they also referred to the Horn of Africa as T ntjr or "Land (of the) God".

In ancient Egyptian, as in modern Arabic, the w in Pwnt is here uu in Somali, so Pwn was an ancient Egyptian rendering of the native name for the land of the horn of Africa, Buun. Horn is not Pwn in ancient Egyptian, only in languages native to the Horn, so they were writing down the native name for that land.

The pre-Islamic/pre-Christian/pre-Jewish religion of the Horn of Africa was monotheist. There is much evidence for this. The ancient Hadiya people, Somali people and Oromo people all worshipped "Waaq" the single, omnipotent creator God. This would have been quite noteworthy for ancient Egyptians as all other peoples they knew at the time (semitic peoples to the east, libyans to the west, kushites to the south, etc) were all polytheists, including their own religions, and would merit being mentioned, thus the second name for Pwnt, T ntjr. This would also mean that monotheism happened in the Horn of Africa at least a thousand years before it occurred anywhere else in the world.
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Thanks.
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Greetings Mujaahid James!

Do u have any thing suggesting that ancient Punt was a somali speaking entity?

I heard there were a somehow Monotheistic religion in Ancient Egypt? have u heard about it?

One last thing,
Lately I came accross the clan names of Orma/Warday; they live in Kenya and among Bantu/exotic Somalis.
Wat was very striking is their clan names are identical to the Bareeytuma clan names...its as if every major Bareeytuma clan has
its hard copy in the Orma :? Besides their accent is similar/identical to the Bareeytuma one!
I prtend this confirms partially my North to South migration of Oromo/somali clans.
Wat is your take?

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This is some amazing Puntland history :up:

I'm going to the library one of these days to learn more about my ancestors, the Puntites.
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bareento wrote:Greetings Mujaahid James!

Do u have any thing suggesting that ancient Punt was a somali speaking entity?

I heard there were a somehow Monotheistic religion in Ancient Egypt? have u heard about it?

One last thing,
Lately I came accross the clan names of Orma/Warday; they live in Kenya and among Bantu/exotic Somalis.
Wat was very striking is their clan names are identical to the Bareeytuma clan names...its as if every major Bareeytuma clan has
its hard copy in the Orma :? Besides their accent is similar/identical to the Bareeytuma one!
I prtend this confirms partially my North to South migration of Oromo/somali clans.
Wat is your take?

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I've heard a theory that the Oromo confederations like Arsi, Barentuma, Borana etc are geographic, not genealogical, and that there are different branches of the same clan in several different confederations.

By Somali I suppose I should say that they spoke an ancient language of which Somali is the modern descendant, along with Afar and the Oromo languages.

Yes there was a religion that was instituted by Amenhotep IV, he instituted the sole worship of "the Aten", the solar personification of Horus-Re, and changed his name to Akhenaten. Perhaps this was an influence of Punitic religious ideas on Egyptian culture?

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Here the Pharaoh offers votive offerings to the Aten

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Here again Pharaoh offers votive offerings to the Aten
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From a Muslim perspective we believe every nation received a prophet at least once.
The message the prophets brought was essentially the same, islam.

So as muslims we expect this to be true.
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mashaallah the history of the land of the punt is the history of all somali people, we should stop hating each other and we would a chieve great things
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http://www.greatdreams.com/moses.htm

There is a new chronology that places Akhenaten after Moses. His Monotheism could have come from the Hebrews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten

See the portion of the article on Akhenaten and Judeo-Christian monotheism.
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This guy is ignorant our religion, and he thinks he is praising us. :-@ :-@ :-@ :-@
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gurey25 wrote:From a Muslim perspective we believe every nation received a prophet at least once.
The message the prophets brought was essentially the same, islam.

So as muslims we expect this to be true.
Exactly what I was thinking.

That said, Waaq is "Sky God" as far as I'm aware lol
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Grant wrote:http://www.greatdreams.com/moses.htm

There is a new chronology that places Akhenaten after Moses. His Monotheism could have come from the Hebrews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten

See the portion of the article on Akhenaten and Judeo-Christian monotheism.
^^

Mujaahid Grant!
Moses is a religious/mythological figure...no sign of his existence has never been found
The Israeli archeologist/historians are honest enough to admit it!


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Cinque Mtume wrote:This is some amazing Puntland history :up:

I'm going to the library one of these days to learn more about my ancestors, the Puntites.
:up:
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BlackVelvet wrote:
gurey25 wrote:From a Muslim perspective we believe every nation received a prophet at least once.
The message the prophets brought was essentially the same, islam.

So as muslims we expect this to be true.
Exactly what I was thinking.

That said, Waaq is "Sky God" as far as I'm aware lol
Waaq means God in oromo Language.
Oromo christians calle Him Waaq, oromo muslims call him waaq.
On the other side waaq means the sky or the space to be more precise!
hence the confused translation of Waaq as the sky God!

Besides there are a lot of authentically Muslim somali tribes with waaq in their name!
If waaq was considered as sky god, would those mulim tribes bear a name containing waaq?

Takbiir! waaq baa weyn :up:

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bareento wrote:
Grant wrote:http://www.greatdreams.com/moses.htm

There is a new chronology that places Akhenaten after Moses. His Monotheism could have come from the Hebrews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten

See the portion of the article on Akhenaten and Judeo-Christian monotheism.
^^

Mujaahid Grant!
Moses is a religious/mythological figure...no sign of his existence has never been found
The Israeli archeologist/historians are honest enough to admit it!


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Bareento!

Besides the Torah and the Quran, we also have this:

http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/moses.htm
As a child, Moses was known as Senmut. son of Hatshepsut and prince of Egypt. We have portraits of him both as a child and as an adult. Note the Semitic nose!

.http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a027.html

After 430 years in Egypt, what would the archaeological record of the descendants of 70 Canaanite Semites have looked like?

Joseph, the Vizier of Egypt has been identified as Yuya. This article describes archaeological work at Ramesses, in the eastern Nile delta, that found an Asiatic settlement of the right period with a tomb of an important figure, whose statue had red hair and yellow skin. More than a few people think the Habiru have been found.

For someone who didn't exist, he sure influenced a lot of history. :lol:
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