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Islamic ruling on shias

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:19 am
by AhlulbaytSoldier
Ibrahim reported that his father Hasan said that his father Hasan said that his father Ali bin Abu-Talib (may Allah be pleased with them) said: "The Messenge of Allah said: There will appear, at the end of time, people who are called Rawafidah (rejecters). They will reject Islam." [Musnad Ahmad]

Abdullah ibn Abbaas (may Allah be pleased with them) reported that The Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: "There will be, at the end of the time, people who are called Rawafid (rejecters). They will reject Islam and spit it out. Thus, KILL THEM for they are polytheist."


Imaam Abu Hanifah

It was reported that often Abu Haneefah used to repeat the following statement about the Shi`ites, "Whoever doubts whether they are disbelievers has himself committed disbelief."
Imaam al-Shaafi`e

On one occasion al-Shaafi`i said concerning the Shi`ites, "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Raafidite Shi`ites." [Ibn Taymeeyah, Minhaaj as-Sunnah an-Nabawiyyah, 1/39] On another occasion he said, "Narrate knowledge from everyone you meet except the Raafidite Shi`ites, because they invent Hadeeths and adopt them as part of their religion." [Ibid, p. 38]
Imaam Maalik

Once Maalik was asked about them and he replied, "Do not speak to them nor narrate from them, for surely they are liars." [Minhaaj as-Sunnah, 1/37] During a class of Imaam Maalik, it was mentioned that the Raafidite Shi`ites curse the Sahaabah. In reply, he quoted the Quranic verse, "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah and those with him are harsh with the disbelievers and gentle among themselves. So that the disbelievers may become enraged with them." He then said, "Whoever becomes enraged when the Sahaabah are mentioned is one about whom the verse speaks." [Tafseeer al-Qurtubee, Soorah al-Fath; Editor’s note: That is, anyone who is enraged by the mention of the Sahaabah is a dsibeliever, because the verse says, "…the disbelievers may become enraged with them (Sahaabah)."]

Imaam Ibn Hazm quoted a report with an isnad going back to Hishaam ibn ‘Ammaar, who said: "I heard Maalik ibn Anas say: "Whoever curses Abu Bakr should be whipped, and whoever curses ‘Aa’ishah should be killed." He was asked, "Why do you say that concerning (the one who curses) ‘Aa’ishah?" He said, Because Allah says concerning ‘Aa’ishah, (may Allah be pleased with her): "Allah forbids you from it (slander her) and warns you not to repeat the like of it forever, if you are believers." (al-Noor 24:17)’"
Abu Bakr ibn al-‘Arabi

Abu Bakr ibn al-‘Arabi said: "Because the people who slandered ‘Aa’ishah accused a pure and innocent person of immorality, then Allah exonerated her. So everyone who accuses her of that of which Allah has stated she is innocent is rejecting what Allah says, and everyone who rejects what Allah says is a kaafir. This is the opinion of Maalik, and the matter is very clear to those who have insight."






Thanks to Allah swt who made me become muslim after i was two times apostate( rafidhi and khaariji).

Re: Islamic ruling on shias

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:38 am
by ZubeirAwal
Shias love the Ahul-Bayt to death but they show disgusting hate for the close companions and wives of the prophet. They remind me of isrealis who see anyone out of their race as gentiles.

But they are muslims regardless since they believe in 1 god and that muhammad is his slave and messenger (saws), Allah is the judge so its best to leave it at that.

Re: Islamic ruling on shias

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:10 am
by djibsomali
Islamic ruling on Sunni:

Vodka drinkers, galoo lovers, apostates, Saudi lovers, hypocrites,
basically rubbish ....

Re: Islamic ruling on shias

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:22 pm
by AhlulbaytSoldier
djibsomali wrote:Islamic ruling on Sunni:

Vodka drinkers, galoo lovers, apostates, Saudi lovers, hypocrites,
basically rubbish ....
:dwill:
U cant proof it.

Re: Islamic ruling on shias

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:32 pm
by DR-YALAXOOW
Hutuking. !! change the title to this!! sunni sect's rulling on shias!!
this is not islam rulling! its a sunni sects rulling over another sect which is shia!!!!!!
both shia and sunni are sects whit in islam and no one has rights to declare other one as non muslim!!

Re: Islamic ruling on shias

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:35 pm
by djibsomali
Dr yallaxow is reasonable !

Re: Islamic ruling on shias

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:38 pm
by Thuganomics
The general ruling on Shia is that theIr aqeeda is(creed) is faasiq
They're not kaafir.Their Iman is sound

Re: Islamic ruling on shias

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:40 pm
by Shirib
Islamic ruling on shia's is they're brave men, the only one's to have defeated Israel on the battlefield, and they refuse to bend backwards when all other Muslim regimes do. :clap:

Re: Islamic ruling on shias

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:56 pm
by AhlulbaytSoldier
Yalaxoow,
they worship graves bro, bow down to al-hussain r.a.
that is shirk.

shirib,
i admire them politically, muslims can learn from them :up:

Re: Islamic ruling on shias

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:57 pm
by Shirib
HutuKing01 wrote:Yalaxoow,
they worship graves bro, bow down to al-hussain r.a.
that is shirk.
That doesn't automatically make u gaal. A lot of suufi's do similar things

Re: Islamic ruling on shias

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:05 pm
by AhlulbaytSoldier
If sufis bow down on graves, saying ya jeylani madad, then yes that is shirk which expells someone from islam.
Indeed such person is mushrik.

Islam is clear on things like that.

Re: Islamic ruling on shias

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:09 pm
by Shirib
HutuKing01 wrote:If sufis bow down on graves, saying ya jeylani madad, then yes that is shirk which expells someone from islam.
Indeed such person is mushrik.

Islam is clear on things like that.
committing kufr doesn't automatically make you a kaafir. Their imaan is still intact

Re: Islamic ruling on shias

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:11 pm
by grandpakhalif
mashallah hutuking, allah guided you to the right path and rejection of the kufr known as rawafid shiasm. Even though alawites are kuffar I rather have them rule syria than america.

Re: Islamic ruling on shias

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:12 pm
by Shirib
grandpakhalif wrote:mashallah hutuking, allah guided you to the right path and rejection of the kufr known as rawafid shiasm. Even though alawites are kuffar I rather have them rule syria than america.
but u would welcome America attacking Iran. WOW the hypocrisy

Re: Islamic ruling on shias

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:14 pm
by grandpakhalif
Shirib wrote:
grandpakhalif wrote:mashallah hutuking, allah guided you to the right path and rejection of the kufr known as rawafid shiasm. Even though alawites are kuffar I rather have them rule syria than america.
but u would welcome America attacking Iran. WOW
maxa iga galay labo gaalo oo isku riifaya, may they eliminate each other. :lol: :up: