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The Importance of time and space in Islam, Saba3a Samaa'.

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Asalamu Alaykum Jamii'an.

Please have the patience to understand and read all of this passage.


The topic on time on islam is never really taught today in your local madrassa, it is indeed a very interesting and vital topic. And this type of knowledge is not layed out on a dish for you, it's something you need to put an effort on trying to understand it, It as if Allah scattered the pearls all over the qur'an and over the tongue of the prophet, and that if we string them together we find something amazing. There is a multi-dimensional movement of time as it passes through the ages.Only the faithful and righteous are endowed with Nur (i.e., light) which gives them the capacity to penetrate the reality of time. I ask Al-Fatah that he may open my heart and endow it with his Nur so that i may be shown the fruits of knowledge.Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala warns that all except the believers would be at sea about this subject. They would be in a state of loss because of their incapacity to fathom the subject of time and thus to swim gracefully with time as it flows to a destination whilst them not-knowing which would witness the final triumph of Truth over falsehood.All, except those who have true faith in Allah Most High, remain imprisoned in the consciousness of only one dimension of time. When those who are devoid of faith are raised on the Last Day, veils will be removed from their eyes so they will see with a sharpness of vision hitherto not possible. That new sharpness of vision, in turn, would reveal to them something of the reality of time.


The Qur’ān has described a people who would one day be forced out of that prison of time to see the real world. Even though they may have lived for scores of years in this life, yet after their resurrection into a new world (which would be ghair al-ard, i.e., different from the present order of creation; see Qur’ān, Ibrāhim, 14:48), they would themselves be conscious of the new dimension of time into which they have been reborn. They will then declare that the scores of years in their previous life seem like “a day or part of a day”:

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(It will be said) “You were heedless of this (Day of Judgement), now have We removed thy veil, and sharp is thy sight this Day! (And one of the first things that they now see with their sharp sight would be the reality of ‘time’.)”
(Qur’ān, Qāf, 50:22)


‘Protestantism’ is a uniquely European phenomenon. It represents a strange conception of religion bereft of its spiritual core. It thus facilitates the emergence of a western ‘one-eyed’ epistemology that limits knowledge to external observation while casting doubt about, or denying the validity of knowledge internally or spiritually derived.
When that epistemology influenced Islamic thought it created a Protestant’ Islam that abandoned the Islamic spiritual quest. It eventually became a strange and curious creature that worked overtime on behalf of Dajjāl, the false Messiah, while waging war on the Sufis of Islam and on the use of internal intuitive spiritual insight
in the interpretation of religious symbolism. Prophet Muhammad (sallalahu ‘alaihi wa sallam) has explained the subject of Dajjāl the False Messiah, or Anti-Christ, in quite some detail. Among the things he said about Dajjāl was that: “. . he would live on earth (after Allah Most High releases him) for a period of forty days, one day (being) like a year, one day like a month, one day like a week, and all his days (i.e., all the rest of his days) like your days”.
(Narrated by al-Nawwās ibn Sama’ān and recorded in Sahīh Muslim

The authentic Sūfi Shuyūkh (Shaikhs) of Islam have been, for more than a thousand years, spiritual luminaries who penetrated the very heart of the religious way of life, and like Khidr (‘alaihi al-Salām), they saw with ‘two’ eyes, i.e., the external and internal. (Imam al- Ghazzali is one of them.) Because of the depth of faith they had attained they were able to comprehend the reality of time. Following the path of Khidr (‘alaihi al-Salām) we have applied the Sufi epistemology of internal intuitive spiritual insight to the interpretation of religious symbolism (t’awīl al-Ahadīth). Consequently, we have dismissed the view that any amount of searching at the poles, or anywhere else on earth, could result in Dajjāl ever being located on earth. Rather, we hold the view that the only place on earth that a believer would ever be able to see and
recognize Dajjāl in person is in the Holy Land. It would of course be at the very end of his evil reign over the world when ‘his day’ would be like ‘our day’ and, hence, when he would be in our dimension of time.

Back to the subject of time and space in the Qur'an.

The Qur’ān actually identifies these seven worlds as different dimensions of space and time. For example it makes mention of a world (Ālam) with a dimension of time in which:
• A ‘day’ is like fifty thousand years:
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“The angels and the Spirit ascend unto Him in a Day the measure whereof is
(as) fifty thousand years.” (Qur’ān, al- M’ārij, 70:4)

And it makes mention of a second world (Ālam) with a dimension of time in which:
• A ‘day’ is like a thousand years:

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"And they urge you to hasten the punishment. But Allah will never fail in His promise. And indeed, a day with your Lord is like a thousand years of those which you count."
(Al Haj [22:47}).

• A day is like three hundred years, In Sūrah al-Kahf of the Qur’ān, the supreme importance of time in relation to the subject of Dajjāl was dramatically emphasized when
Allah Most High declared that He caused the young men to remain in the cave for many years. He then raised them to wakefulness in order to determine which of them would be able to accurately assess the period of time that they had tarried in the cave. They had actually slept for three hundred years and yet felt that they had tarried for a day or part of a day:

“And thereupon We veiled their ears in the cave for many a year, (they were thus cut off from the outside world), and then We awakened them; (and we did all this) so that We might mark out (to the world) which of the two points of view showed a better comprehension of the time-span during which they had remained in that state.”
(Qur’ān, al-Kahf, 18:11-12)

“So they stayed in their Cave three hundred years and (some) add nine
(more).”
(Qur’ān, al-Kahf, 18:25)

Bare in mind that there are seven different dimensions of space and time , all of them having different times in comparison to our lunar years.

So far we have :

.A day like 1000 years (Al-Hajj 22:47)

A day like 50,000 years (Al-Ma'riij 70:4)

A day like 300 years ( Al-Kahf 18:25)

And now the Qur'an tells us another day that is 100 years of our time.

The Qur’ān has also described the event in which a man passed by a ‘town’ that was lying in ruins (i.e., Jerusalem) and wondered skeptically how could Allah Most High revive that ‘town’. Whereupon Allah caused him to die (metaphorically) for a hundred years and then revived him to ask him how long he had tarried there. His response was “a day or part of a day”

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Or [consider such an example] as the one who passed by a township which had fallen into ruin. He said, "How will Allah bring this to life after its death?" So Allah caused him to die for a hundred years; then He revived him. He said, "How long have you remained?" The man said, "I have remained a day or part of a day." He said, "Rather, you have remained one hundred years. Look at your food and your drink; it has not changed with time. And look at your donkey; and We will make you a sign for the people. And look at the bones [of this donkey] - how We raise them and then We cover them with flesh." And when it became clear to him, he said, "I know that Allah is over all things competent."

The seven different dimensions of space and time appear to exist alongside each other rather than a second beginning where the first ends:

He Who created the seven cosmic stratas (samawat) one beside another; no want of proportion wilt thou see in the Creation of (Allah) Most Gracious, so turn thy vision again: Seest thou any flaw?”
(Qur’ān, al-Mulk, 67:3)

There is a remarkable description of the proximity of different dimensions of time right here on earth in the same passage of the Qur’ān quoted above (Qur’ān, al-Baqarah, 2:259), in which Allah Most High makes mention of the traveler who passed by Jerusalem after the Babylonian destruction and who could not conceive of the dead city ever being revived to life. The traveler was put to death (sleep is a form of death) for a hundred years and then revived to consciousness. As with the youth, so too did the traveler have the consciousness of having tarried for just a day or part of a day. But the Qur’ān gives a vivid description of two different dimensions of time existing beside each other on earth when it described the fate of the donkey in one dimension of time, and of the food in another. While the donkey, in our dimension of time, starved to death, and the body decomposed until even the bones had crumbled to dust, the food which was preserved in another dimension of time remained fresh even after a hundred years. The lesson from this narrative is that both dimensions of time exist side by side right here on earth! We witness exactly the same phenomenon in the story of the young men who were put to sleep in the cave and who slept for three hundred years. Spritiual analysis of that story indicates that their bodies were located simultaneously in two dimensions of time during their long sleep in the cave. In the first dimension of time their bodies kept on rolling to the left and to the right in synchrony with the movement of the sun, i.e., morning and evenings. In the second dimension of time their bodies displayed no visible signs of biological growth and ageing despite the passage of three hundred years. Different dimensions of time and of space can all be located Tibāqa, i.e., together or alongside each other. We can now understand how unseen recording angels who exist in a different dimension of space and time can be constantly present on both our shoulders as we live here on earth, and how unseen Jinn can also be constantly present all around us. They are present around us while yet not present in the same dimension of space and time in which we exist. Hence it is that we cannot see them. Consider the following verse of the Quran.

O Children of Adam! let not Satan seduce you, in the same manner as he got your parents out of the Garden, stripping them of their raiment, to expose
their shame: for he and his tribe watch you from a place where ye cannot see them (i.e., they observe you from a dimension of space and time beyond your
observation – hence from an unseen world): We made the Evil Ones friends (only) to those without Faith.
(Qur’ān: al-‘Arāf, 7:27)

We may now conclude with the recognition of the following
seven worlds or dimensions of time:
1. a day like 50,000 years
2. a day like 1000 years
3. a day like 300 years
4. a day like 100 years
5. a day like a year
6. a day like a month and
7. a day like a week.

We are now at last in a position to examine the enigmatic Hadiīh concerning Dajjāl and his life-span on earth of ‘forty’ days. No one can discern the subject of Dajjāl the false Messiah (Anti- Christ) unless and until he succeeds in first comprehending the subject of ‘time’. This is because Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of
Allah Most High be upon him) has clearly revealed ‘time’ to be at the very heart of Dajjāl’s mission since, “when he is released, he would live on earth for forty days – ‘one day like a year’, ‘one day like a month’, ‘one day like a week’, and all his days (i.e., all the rest of his days) like your days’.” (Sahīh Muslim)
It should now be quite clear that Dajjāl passes through three different dimensions of space and time before he finally emerges in concrete form in our world where we would actually be able to see him. In our book entitled ‘Jerusalem in the Qur’ān’ we have located and explained where Dajjāl would be located on earth during these
three periods of his life prior to that time when he would make his physical appearance in Jerusalem.
But the further questions arise:

• how long would a day like a year be?
• how long would a day like a month be?
• how long would a day like a week be?

Since different dimensions of space and time other than our own cannot be observed normally, there can be no precise mathematical formula through which we can measure ‘a day like a year’. Nor can we, through observation and rational effort, measure ‘a day like a month’ or ‘a day like a week’. But we can certainly recognize that the three periods of time in which Dajjāl traverses three different dimensions of time (a day like a year, a month, a week etc.) are such that the first is the longest, the second is shorter than the first, and the last is the shortest. The only way we can determine or recognize his passage from the first to the second and finally to the third dimension of time, before he emerges in our world, is through his ‘footprints’. By that I mean that we have to carefully observe events as they emerge in the passage of history and then, with a careful use of the Ahadīth of the Prophet (sallalahu ‘alaihi wa sallam), we will be able to recognize and even anticipate his movement from
‘day’ to ‘day’. It is through the use of this method that we have come to the conclusion that we are now located at that moment in Dajjāl’s life on earth, and in the historical process, when ‘a day like a month’ is about to end, and ‘a day like a week’ is about to commence. When Dajjāl was located in a day like a year we observed that
the island of Britain was his headquarters and that Britain became the ruling state in the world. Then we observed that when Dajjāl moved to a day like a month USA became his headquarters and USA succeeded Britain as the ruling state in the world. We would now be able to recognize when ‘a day like a month’ has ended and ‘a day like
a week’ has begun when another state replaces USA as the ruling state in the world. I believe, that the Euro-Jewish State of Israel is poised to wage a war through which it would attempt to seize direct control over all the vast oil resources located in and around the River Euphrates (i.e., in Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the Gulf States, etc.). Britain and USA would, of course, assist Israel in that attack. Prophet Muhammad (sallalahu ‘alaihi wa sallam) had prophesied these wars (i.e., the British, and American wars on Iraq to seize control of Iraq’s oil, and the Israeli war that is about to take place)
when he declared:

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “Soon the river Euphrates will
uncover a treasure (like a mountain) of gold. Whoever is present at that time
should not take anything of it.” Al-A'raj narrated from Abu Huraira that the
Prophet said the same but he said, “It (Euphrates) would uncover a mountain
of gold (under it ).”
(Sahīh Bukhāri)


Narrated Ubayy ibn Ka'b: I heard Allah's Apostle (peace be upon him) say,
“The Euphrates would soon uncover a mountain of gold and when the people
would hear of it they would flock towards it but the people who would
possess that (treasure) (would say): If we allow these persons to take a piece
of it they will take away the whole thing.” So they will fight and ninety-nine
out of one hundred would be killed. Abu Kamil in his narration said: “I and
Abu Ka'b stood under the shade of the battlement of Hassan.”
(Sahīh Muslim)

I believe that the massive deaths prophesied (99 out of every 100) in the war to gain control over that mountain of (black) gold uncovered by the River Euphrates can be understood in the tremendous number of deaths already estimated to have occurred in Iraq. However, I believe that it can better be understood in the context
of the possible future use of such weapons of mass destruction as nuclear weapons. I believe that Israel would exploit the opportunity of that big war to expand its territory “from the river of Egypt to the river Euphrates” and would thus achieve its mythical Biblical frontiers. I expect at that time there would also be a concomitant collapse of the American dollar, economy and power to such an extent that Israel would replace USA as the ruling state in the world! After all, an Israeli nuclear attack to seize control of the oil that the blessed Prophet described as “a mountain of gold” would result in such a dramatic rise in the price of both oil and gold as would precipitate the meltdown of the fraudulent dollar. The price of oil has also already risen to such an extent that any further dramatic increase would deliver to Israel the capacity to hold the entire world to energy ransom. Energy blackmail would thus be used by the so-called ‘chosen people’ of the Lord-God to establish their so-called Holy Israel as the new ruling state in the world. As events continue to unfold we confidently expect them to confirm our (spiritual) interpretation of the prophecy of the blessed Prophet (sallalahu ‘alaihi wa sallam) that would eventually deliver victory to truth and justice. Since this is just an opinion i must qualify our interpretation of religious symbolism in the Qur’ān and Ahadīth with ‘Allah Knows best’. Finally if we can calculate the period of time (using our own measurement of time) when Dajjāl was in ‘a day like a year’, and ‘a day like a month’, we would then arrive at an understanding of the approximate amount of time that would elapse in ‘a day like a week’, i.e., a much shorter period of time than the previous ‘day’. At the end of ‘a day like a week’ we can expect Dajjāl to be born into our world of space and time) of Jewish parents, as prophesied by the blessed Prophet (salallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam) and to eventually assume rule over Israel and the world while he is still a young man. At that time he would proclaim himself to be the Messiah. When the Jews complete their acceptance of his (false) claim, his mission would have been successfully completed.


May Allah protect this Ummah from the fitna of Dajjal.
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thanks for this, its a good read :up:

we live in a world where revelation and spiritual study takes a backseat to man's modern interpretation on almost every faculty(i see, therefore it is..or has to be) so its not always easy to convey anything beyond the material reality. but thankfully we have the Quran and sunnah of the prophet(S.A.W).

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zulaika wrote:thanks for this, its a good read :up:

we live in a world where revelation and spiritual study takes a backseat to man's modern interpretation on almost every faculty(i see, therefore it is..or has to be) so its not always easy to convey anything beyond the material reality. but thankfully we have the Quran and sunnah of the prophet(S.A.W).

thanks again!!!!
Your welcome, it is amazing how the Qur'an and the hadith speaks to us despite it being revealed 1400 years ago, one must always obtain a mind-state that the Qur' an is not speaking to the people of the past per se, but also is speaking to us and was design to speak to Muslims of all time, and in particular of this 21st century human revolution where all technological advances are being made at a alarming rate faster then any time in history.
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Abuukar,

I read it all. Twice.

This part....:
spiritual luminaries who penetrated the very heart of the religious way of life, and like Khidr (‘alaihi al-Salām), they saw with ‘two’ eyes, i.e., the external and internal. (Imam al- Ghazzali is one of them.) Because of the depth of faith they had attained they were able to comprehend the reality of time
....stands out as core Baatini(Ismaili) beliefs. Once you venture into the realm of deducing a hidden meaning apparent only to a select few, you're stepping into a hole that has no bottom. Iska ilaali. That's how every misguided sect/cult justifies it's beliefs: "We have a 'special' understanding and are guided by spiritual saints who have exclusive access to Allah."

Islam is clear, timeless, and universal. There are no hidden meanings and "specialised pathways to Allah". This passage, while very interesting, is built on pure speculation and guesswork. The writer desperately wants to fit current political events within the end-of-the-world framework and link it all to the Dajaal. At the end, he goes into full conspiracy theory mode.
Energy blackmail would thus be used by the so-called ‘chosen people’ of the Lord-God to establish their so-called Holy Israel as the new ruling state in the world
How is this any different from The Da Vinci Code?
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Leftist it seems every time i post a topic on this type of subject i always recieve negativity and denial from you, Khidr is not exlcusive to one sect, he was a teacher to the prophets and he dwells in a dimension other then the one we are currently in.
The world is not of one time and dimension, its clear and cut that Allah has created 7 other dimensions which lie right here in our earth but cannot be seen with out biological eyes, and it is by the will of Allah if he wishes to endowes one of his slaves with nuur and insight. Yes it is also true in this dunya muslims regardless of sect who dedicate their time in searching for signs and faith they have '2' eyes and those whom believe the world is confined to just materialism are 'one' eyed.

To understand the Qur'an you must unlock and use your inner insight because the Qur'an can open up a world of messages to you, and again, regardless of sect.

For example, the prophet prophesiesed that the Anti-Christ will ride a donkey as fast as the clouds , a Donkey with wide ears.

When you understand this with true faith at heart you will come to understand that this is the modern-aircraft, whilst many muslims regardless of sect believe he will ride, a actual donkey.

This thinking is not a exclusive Ismaili thinking , i guarentee you if you present this knowledge to any muslim with faith and insight in their heart they will accept it. But we have many who disregard it as false and when Dajjal does arrive, they won't believe he is Dajjal because he won't be riding a donkey, and thus they will be trapped in his deception.

It's all in the qur'an and the hadith.
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^^ It's not negativity, it's a reality check. I agree with you that some ayahs/hadiths are best understood from a metaphorical angle, but you're taking metaphorical to a another level, basically Nostradamus-type predictions.

For example, when you say:
the prophet prophesiesed that the Anti-Christ will ride a donkey as fast as the clouds , a Donkey with wide ears
I agree that it isn't a literal donkey, it's a figurative description. But, unlike you, I won't say it's "XYZ". All I'll say is: "Allahu Aclam". To go further and assert that you know exactly what it is(modern aircraft) because of some super-duper faith level and insight, that's just pure speculation.

Your approach is exactly what the Ismailis, the Shiica, and the extreme Sufis base their creed on: That they have special access to a "hidden knowledge" and that they can "see" what other Muslims can't. If you insist that your approach is correct, then you must also agree that all those kooky sects/cults are also right, and that their crazy beliefs and practices are legitimate.
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It's my mistake , a human error, with all things i said i intend to say Allahu Aclam and Inshallah, therefore do not judge the masses of the sufis who share this understanding. :up:
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