the biggest mistake in somali history
Moderators: Moderators, Junior Moderators
Forum rules
This General Forum is for general discussions from daily chitchat to more serious discussions among Somalinet Forums members. Please do not use it as your Personal Message center (PM). If you want to contact a particular person or a group of people, please use the PM feature. If you want to contact the moderators, pls PM them. If you insist leaving a public message for the mods or other members, it will be deleted.
This General Forum is for general discussions from daily chitchat to more serious discussions among Somalinet Forums members. Please do not use it as your Personal Message center (PM). If you want to contact a particular person or a group of people, please use the PM feature. If you want to contact the moderators, pls PM them. If you insist leaving a public message for the mods or other members, it will be deleted.
the biggest mistake in somali history
Yes we are hamites but the hamites and the semites are both of afro-asiatic root. The semitic scripts have their origin in the hamitic phoenicia.Thus, we had the right and the osmanya should have been the official somali alphabet.
Both the levant and all the arabian peninsula had once a similar hamito-samito inscriptions. the nabataean(ismailites) script has been similar to that of the phoenicians, even during the islmic era it was still known as al khad al musnad/al himyari/al sabai( the sabaean script) its not from the habasha, they just had their own as a semitc clan.
Imagin if the particularly horn brothers had a similar inscriptions we would have been demonstrably one horn nation.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmania_alphabet
Both the levant and all the arabian peninsula had once a similar hamito-samito inscriptions. the nabataean(ismailites) script has been similar to that of the phoenicians, even during the islmic era it was still known as al khad al musnad/al himyari/al sabai( the sabaean script) its not from the habasha, they just had their own as a semitc clan.
Imagin if the particularly horn brothers had a similar inscriptions we would have been demonstrably one horn nation.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmania_alphabet
Re: the biggest mistake in somali history
many companies including Microsoft accepted Osmania script (Osmanya) and added to the list of available fonts in their products 

- Hyperactive
- SomaliNet Super
- Posts: 34541
- Joined: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:36 am
- Location: "Some people are so poor, all they have is money."
Re: the biggest mistake in somali history
i dont know if it's biggest mistake of somali history but was very short sighted to write somali in latin letters!!!
-
- SomaliNet Heavyweight
- Posts: 1811
- Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 7:25 pm
- Location: A labyrinth of swamps and channels
Re: the biggest mistake in somali history
hyperactive wrote:i dont know if it's biggest mistake of somali history but was very short sighted to write somali in latin letters!!!
I agree. Out own national alphabet would have been worth it.
Re: the biggest mistake in somali history
It would have just made it harder for people to integrate in other countries when Somalia failed.
- AbdiWahab252
- SomaliNet Super
- Posts: 56715
- Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2003 7:00 pm
- Location: Unity. Strength. Capital.
Re: the biggest mistake in somali history
There were no incentives for writing in Somali lands unlike Ethiopia due to:
1. Lack of organized settlements
2. No feudal systems that needed extensive administration to collect taxes
1. Lack of organized settlements
2. No feudal systems that needed extensive administration to collect taxes
Re: the biggest mistake in somali history
There has always existed a nomadic somali script, its written on their herds that they belong to some clan, there were stone borders between the north clans, between the central clans and the khawaaja has written about them.AbdiWahab252 wrote:There were no incentives for writing in Somali lands unlike Ethiopia due to:
1. Lack of organized settlements
2. No feudal systems that needed extensive administration to collect taxes
This osmanya script has a genetic relationship with the ancient arabic and the levent scripts such as phoenicia, pamyra,nemara, nabateans, sabaeans and so on. In the middle ages, we had a distinctive somali calligraphy like the rest of the islamic civilazation from andalus to india who had a distictive local calligraphies for example khad al kufi, khad al ruq3a of persia and many and many who went out of general use about the 19 century. The ajuran calligraphy is written on the mihrab of some masjid in xamar.
- AbdiWahab252
- SomaliNet Super
- Posts: 56715
- Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2003 7:00 pm
- Location: Unity. Strength. Capital.
Re: the biggest mistake in somali history
Sahal,
Akhii, the reality is that there was no widespread use of the scripts in Somalia beyond high level communications. In the book called "Why Nations Fail", the example of Somalia vs Ethiopia is highlighted. In Ethiopia there was a centralized form of government which needed scripts to record affairs of state, managing the government, recording land deeds, taxes etc. In Somalia, there were no strong central institutions so no need for script writing.
To Hyper's point, it would have made more sense to switch to a modified form of the Arabic script as a vast majority of Somalis can read and write in Arabic script.
Akhii, the reality is that there was no widespread use of the scripts in Somalia beyond high level communications. In the book called "Why Nations Fail", the example of Somalia vs Ethiopia is highlighted. In Ethiopia there was a centralized form of government which needed scripts to record affairs of state, managing the government, recording land deeds, taxes etc. In Somalia, there were no strong central institutions so no need for script writing.
To Hyper's point, it would have made more sense to switch to a modified form of the Arabic script as a vast majority of Somalis can read and write in Arabic script.
-
- SomaliNet Heavyweight
- Posts: 4133
- Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:28 pm
Re: the biggest mistake in somali history
You need Latin in this post-modern world. Read on China and the problem it says between the inability or time consumed teaching Chinese youngsters about learning and using Chinese characters vs. Latin script.
Re: the biggest mistake in somali history
I concur.AbdiWahab252 wrote:To Hyper's point, it would have made more sense to switch to a modified form of the Arabic script as a vast majority of Somalis can read and write in Arabic script.
Re: the biggest mistake in somali history
All the typewriters were in latin so it made perfect sense 

Re: the biggest mistake in somali history
much clearer now. We did not have a kingdaom back in history unlike of sudan wich had the meroitic alphabet or the abyssinian kingdom wich had the habashi sabaean script. Any kingdom needs a diwan(royal chronicle) to record their works,wars and invasions.AbdiWahab252 wrote:Sahal,
Akhii, the reality is that there was no widespread use of the scripts in Somalia beyond high level communications. In the book called "Why Nations Fail", the example of Somalia vs Ethiopia is highlighted. In Ethiopia there was a centralized form of government which needed scripts to record affairs of state, managing the government, recording land deeds, taxes etc. In Somalia, there were no strong central institutions so no need for script writing.
To Hyper's point, it would have made more sense to switch to a modified form of the Arabic script as a vast majority of Somalis can read and write in Arabic script.

Re: the biggest mistake in somali history
Was for this reason!Executive wrote:All the typewriters were in latin so it made perfect sense


Re: the biggest mistake in somali history
What would you have suggested?hyperactive wrote:i dont know if it's biggest mistake of somali history but was very short sighted to write somali in latin letters!!!
Just what I thought bro.truther wrote:It would have just made it harder for people to integrate in other countries when Somalia failed.
-
- Similar Topics
- Replies
- Views
- Last post
-
- 0 Replies
- 603 Views
-
Last post by sahal80
-
- 0 Replies
- 524 Views
-
Last post by Sadaam_Mariixmaan
-
- 26 Replies
- 277 Views
-
Last post by Executive
-
- 14 Replies
- 1491 Views
-
Last post by S-D-M
-
- 47 Replies
- 2872 Views
-
Last post by Sakhraan
-
- 80 Replies
- 6707 Views
-
Last post by waryaa
-
- 7 Replies
- 660 Views
-
Last post by Murax