Political power struggle re-ignited!

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Political power struggle re-ignited!

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brewing
1- the president wanted to pass 10-member cabinet
2- the parliament threatened to vote against it
3- the president talked about his right to disband the parliament if they disobey him

shots fired
1- without publicity or prior announcement, the parliament convened yesterday quietly, introduced and passed a piece of legislation that forbids the president from disbanding the parliament :lol: (first shot)
2- president's camp is now on the airwaves saying what the parliament did was illegal and unacceptable
3- the prime minister must announce a new cabinet by today or face political assassination.

So far the game is 1 (parliamnet) - 0 (president)

Let the dance begin - as they say it takes two to tango.

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By God, I refrained from criticisng the president until this time but is this guy inept or what? There are some battles you double down on and some you compromise on. Whether the cabinet is 10 or 18 makes NO difference in this time. Somalia faces insecurity, statelessness, dire humanitarian situation, cyclical food insecurity, lack of legitimacy of governance in terms of the government having control over the entirety of the "geographical space" it claims to represent, suspicious clan divisions, existential national and internal security threats, deforestation, capital flight, brain drain, etc etc etc. Every kind of conceivable problem that exists, Somalia faces and in this time immediately following the post-transition where compromise and deft diplomatic skills are needed negotiating the muddy terrain that surrounds Somalia's failure to reconfigure the state...the president picks THIS battle?

I hate to say this but I am starting to think maybe the best person was not voted in September 10.

You not only made an enemy of the legislative body that voted you in and by mandate has the power to draft laws but you risk alienating many sections of the Somali people and reigniting clan hostilities towards governance.

The president wants to take an authoritative step to DISBAND parliament on the first occasion where the different branches of government disagree??? Extremely alarming not to mention by legal terms does this parliament itself have the power to impeach the President? Waryaa do you know anything about that?

This is really extraordinarily dumb.

I am interested to see how this plays out and hope for the best.
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There is something fishy with this Mr Turtle.
I do believe he will bring nothing than trouble.
He defeated Sharif even though Sharif used alot of bribe money. We cant say he is the peoples choice as he was unknown even in the circles of parliament but having pulled out from oblivion to being the President raises alot of unanswered questions.But one thing that we come to realise is he bribed his way into the top Seat. He spent a fortune and those that contributed to it have to get their returns for the comming 4 years.
Daam jadiid is the vilest organisation in Somalia a secret society fledged on qabyalad but heavily comourflaged with religion.
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I could see long ago that this "president" was not the right man to take Somalia forward.
In fact he is reversing the gains made during the Shariif presidency.

Abdulqasim, one of the greatest political failures in modern times is his chief advisor, that says a lot about his judgement.
His picks so far for Govt mostly have an NGO/h/g connection.

The parliament should reject his cabinet, then call a vote of no confidence.
If the parliament were good enough to vote him in, they`re good enough to vote him out.
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A power struggle or a smoke screen?

The Dir gets the foreign minister post, the D&M gets the defense minister post and the Hawiye gets the president and interior minister plus some. As for the only other two remaining important posts given to the Darood, the PM and finance, both are strictly Hawiye controlled. A landslide victory for the Irir, they command a whopping 183 votes and some, the 30 women votes Mrs. Asha Haji Elmi commands, etc.

This one clan dominated capital, its president, the hand picked PM and this Irir controlled parliament have tipped the balance of power in Somalia, this no amount of smoke screen will hide.
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The irrir are not a monolithic entity.
The "presidents" real constituency is a clique of businessmen come Islamists, former NGO workers and h/g subclans.
He will fail, just like his mentor Abdulqasim.
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^The Dir (Isaaq, etc.) and Hawiye have always been grouped Irir in 1960s (I. M. Lewis reiterates this point in many of his writings too), politically they have always been hostile toward the Darood. The only hospitable clan were the D&M but their not so politically hospitable anymore, nowadays they vote Hawiye 99 percent of the time.
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In todays federal Somalia the irrir are not a cohesive polity.
What defines politics today is interests. Irrir interests diverge from one another, not least the secessionists.
The greatest challenge to darood interests are not irrir, but rather HAG sympathizers advising the "president".
Once Jubbaland is established there will be nothing to threaten our interests except ourselves.
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rep, yes, they can impeach him lakin I dnt think they will take that route.

I dnt believe the president is playing clan card to gain ground. Today's politics is more like I than we and the clan card has been exhausted. He is said to be very loyal to his party, and together they have a plan for the country country. Is it going to work? Let's see and wait.

Parliamentarians worked very hard to get in and they will do whatever it takes to keep their jobs.
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original dervish wrote:In todays federal Somalia the irrir are not a cohesive polity.
What defines politics today is interests. Irrir interests diverge from one another, not least the secessionists.
The greatest challenge to darood interests are not irrir, but rather HAG sympathizers advising the "president".
Once Jubbaland is established there will be nothing to threaten our interests except ourselves.
Between the secessionists and the unionists in the north the Hawiye are never in favor of the unionists, there is a reason for that and it's called Irirism. When ever the Ciise in Djabouti weighs in the latest being the issue concerning Jubaland, completely ignored the Constitution and taking sides as always there is a reason for that too and it's called Irirism. In Djibouti the ciise clan have already made toothless out the Afar, in Harigesa the Isaaq are in full control and in Muqdisho the Hawiye. A two state solution will put both Harigesa and Muqdisho up to bar with Djibouti, making Afar out of the Darood in both the north and the south. If they could just can manage to make federalism champion Puntland disappear then maybe their plan could start rolling, the only way to get Bosaso under Muqdisho instead of Garowe and Kismaayo under Muqdisho intead of Bu'aale.

Waad jiiftaa sxb.
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