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Fiscal Cliff averted for now, Taxes increase on rich in USA

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No spending cuts.

Estate tax was raised to 5 million dollars over that 40% tax rate

no tax increase on people earning less than $400k single and $450k a family (Democrats wanted it at $200k for single, $250k for a family). Bush tax cuts are now permanent for 98% of Americans.

we aren't out of the woods yet and it's not much of win for Democrats

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/3 ... 48269.html


more is too come in the next two months as far as spending cuts
"Congress would permanently extend the Bush income tax cuts at $400,000 and below, keep the estate tax threshold at $5 million and extend unemployment benefits for one year."

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"The deal still requires buy-in from members of both parties, and Biden was set to meet with Senate Democrats Monday night to try to sell them on the package. That could prove challenging given that key progressive groups, including the AFL-CIO, made it clear earlier Monday that they would oppose any deal that raised the income limit for extending the Bush tax cuts above $250,000"
“WHAT COMPROMISE LOOKS LIKE

The GOP did not want to raise income taxes on anyone.
The GOP wanted to tie deep spending cuts into any deal.
The GOP did not want to see extensions in key Democratic favored programs.
It did not get what it wanted.


It did get $150,000 increase in the tax ceiling, and it joined the democrats in supporting several tax credit extensions, and in ending the payroll tax holiday.

The Dems did very well indeed (read on to find out how)..

Here is what the deal does:
A) All wage earners will see their payroll taxes return to 6.2 percent on earnings up to $113,700 in order to return the funding stream to Social Security and Medicare.

B) Individuals who earn more than $400,000 and couples who make more than $450,000 will see income tax rates increase from 35% to 39.6% For people at those income levels, tax rates on capital gains and dividends are expected to rise to 20%, up from15%. In addition to the capital gain and dividend rates, health care reform will levy a new surtax of 3.8% on capital gains for wealthy Americans, pushing up the top capital gains rate to 23.8%.

3) Estate tax rates are poised to rise from 35% to 40% for estates valued at more $5 million.

4) Creation of a permanent inflation "patch" that would shield millions of middle class taxpayers from the AMT (Alternative Minimum Tax that is supposed to guarantee that wealthy taxpayers pay a minimum amount of federal income tax, regardless of deductions, credits or exemptions. In essence, it is a flat tax with two brackets -- 26% and 28%)

4) Extended Measures/Programs:
- Unemployment extended for one year, preserving benefits for 2 million Americans who were at risk for losing benefits at year's end.
- The Child Tax Credit, Earned Income Tax Credit and Obama Opportunity Tax Credit (college tuition credits) will all be extended for five more years.
- One-year extension of the Research and Experimentation Tax Credit and Production Tax Credit, Alternative Energy Credits, along with an extension of the 50 percent Bonus Depreciation for businesses' capital expenditures.
- One-year extension of the DocFix current Medicare reimbursement rates, shielding participating doctors from a potential 27% cut in reimbursements.

AND...It would also temporarily delay the sequester -- i.e., billions of dollars in across-the-board spending cuts -- for another two months....when the debt ceiling debate will be a full force.

It will pass the Senate in a bipartisan vote and Boehner is going to have accept Democratic support in the House (which will weaken him). Not Bad.”
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Re: Fiscal Cliff averted for now, Middle Class about to die

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wasn't the deadline on new year's day if so then these bastards made it about time.
the republicans wanted the spending cuts to be initiated asap so that they can win the next election, no spending cuts is good news for democrats :whew:
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The US is in terminal decline.....the only thing it has going for it is a massive military machine, which is used to intimidate countries to keep using the Dollar.
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Fah

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Politics? don't u have other issues to deal with>????? Like your weight. :dj:
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original dervish wrote:The US is in terminal decline.....the only thing it has going for it is a massive military machine, which is used to intimidate countries to keep using the Dollar.

hater----GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! :dj: :dj: :dj:
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Doctors( senate) approved to give the patient (usa) life support machine.
soon they will order to disconnect. dead man is a dead man and fiscal cliff is a life support machine

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Basra.........are you gonna be the only rat not to leave a sinking ship? :D
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original dervish wrote:Basra.........are you gonna be the only rat not to leave a sinking ship? :D
:mindblown:
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How much are income taxes in united states?? How many procent of your mushahar goverment takes every month?,
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DR-YALAXOOW wrote:How much are income taxes in united states?? How many procent of your mushahar goverment takes every month?,
On a typical working person's paycheck what is deducted is Federal Income Tax (15% for a working person), State Income Tax, Social Security Tax (6%), and Medicare tax (1.45%). So around 23% of your check is taken out.

We had a payroll tax holiday where social security tax went from 6.2% of each paycheck down to 4.2%. On Monday, its going back up to 6.2%. Medicare tax hits you at 1.45% on each paycheck.

Then we pay federal and state taxes. Since there are 50 states I won't detail all their rates, but here are the federal rates for the 2011 tax year. The rates depend on your status so I'll break it down by status:

SINGLE

$0 to $8,500: 10%
$8,500 to $34,500: 15%
$34,500 to $83,600: 25%
$83,600 to $174,400: 28%
$174,400 to $379,150: 33%
$379,150 or more: 35%


HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD

$0 to $12,150: 10%
$12,150 to $46,250: 15%
$46,250 to $119,400: 25%
$119,400 to $193,350: 28%
$193,350 to $379,150: 33%
$379,151 or more: 35%


MARRIED FILING JOINTLY

$0 - $17,000: 10%
$17,000 to $69,000: 15%
$69,000 to $139,350: 25%
$139,350 to $212,300: 28%
$212,301 to $379,150: 33%
$379,150 or more: 35%


MARRIED FILING SEPARATELY

$0 to $8,500: 10%
$8,500 to $34,500: 15%
$34,500 to $69,675: 25%
$69,675 to $106,150: 28%
$105,150 to $189, 575: 33%
$189,576 or more: 35%


So for example if a single person has $10,000 in income the first $8500 is taxed at 10% and the remaining $1500 is taxed at 15%.
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Re: Fiscal Cliff averted for now, Middle Class about to die

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BREAKING NEWS: HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES PASSES FISCAL CLIFF BILL, SPENDING CUT DEBATES PUSHED BACK TILL MARCH

Obama will now sign it

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/f ... LvlCcEqDEL
In addition to neutralizing middle class tax increases and spending cuts taking effect with the new year, the legislation will raise tax rates on incomes over $400,000 for individuals and $450,000 for couples. That was higher than the thresholds of $200,000 and $250,000 that Obama campaigned for. But remarkably, in a party that swore off tax increases two decades ago, dozens of Republicans supported the bill at both ends of the Capitol.
So if you make over $400k as an individual and $450k as a family, your marginal tax rate increases from 35% to 40% (Clinton era level).

These folks would also pay a top rate on dividends and long-term capital gains of 20%, up from 15%.

Upper-income Americans would also enjoy fewer tax deductions. Married couples earning more than $300,000 would see their itemized deductions and personal exemption phase out. Couples earning more than $422,500 would not be able to take a personal exemption at all.

Also, estates of more than $5 million would be subject to a top tax rate of 40%, up from 35% now.

And this doesn't include two new taxes that will hit the rich to pay for President Obama's health reform package, including a 0.9% tax on earnings above $250,000 for couples and an additional 3.8% levy on investment income for wealthy filers.

Unemployment benefits continue.
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Yeah....very interesting.
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