TO ALL : Nationalism
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TO ALL : Nationalism
i out this in the general forum so more ppl would see.
a big problem with us is that we have nationalism and racism. i have seen somali hitler in words. i have seen many racist posts here.
I would like to tell you that nationalism is haraam.
"Leave it. It is Rotten " [Bukhari & Muslim]
" ...People should give up their pride in nations because this is a coal from the coals of hell-fire. If they do not give this up Allah (swt) will consider them lower than a lowly worm which pushes itself through khur (feces)." [abu Dawd and Tirmidhi]
In the Hadith recorded in Mishkat al-Masabith, the Messenger of Allah (saw) said, "He who calls for `Asabiyyah is as if he bit his father's genitals" Also, the Messenger of Allah (saw) said, narrated by At-Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud, "There are indeed people who boast of their dead ancestors; but in the sight of Allah they are more contemptible than the black beetle that rolls a piece of dung with its nose. Behold, Allah has removed from you the arrogance of the Time of Jahiliyyah (Ignorance) with its boast of ancestral glories. Man is but an Allah-fearing believer or an unfortunate sinner. All people are the children of Adam, and Adam was created out of dust."
Jabir ibn `Abd Allah al Ansari, narrated what happened at the watering place of al Muraysi which led to the Munafiqun stirring up the traces of `Asabiyah and seeking to destroy the unity of the Muslims. He said: "We were on a raid when one of the Muhajirun kicked one of the Ansar. The Ansar said, `O Ansar! Help me! (calling his tribe) and the Muhajir said, `O Muhajirun! Help me! (calling his tribe). The Messenger of Allah (saw) heard them and said, "Why are you stirring up something which belongs to Jahilliyah?" The Messenger of Allah (saw) did not deal with the situation only by speaking to his men, but he walked with the men all that day until nightfall, and through the night until morning and during the following day until the sun distressed them. Then he halted them, and as soon as they touched the ground, they fell asleep. He did this to distract their minds from what had transpired.
It is transmitted by at-Tabarani and al-Hakim that in one incident some people spoke very lowly about Salman al-Farsi. They spoke of the inferiority of the Persian in relation to the Arabs, and upon hearing this the Messenger of Allah (saw) declared, "Salman is from us, the ahl al-bayt (the Prophet's family)." This statement of the Messenger of Allah (saw) disassociates all links based on lineage and tribal considerations.
It was also transmitted, in two different versions, by Ibn al-Mubarak in his two books, Al-Birr and As-Salah, that some disagreement occurred between Abu Dharr and Bilal and Abu Dharr said to Bilal, "You son of a black woman." The Messenger of Allah (saw) was extremely upset by Abu Dharr's comment, so he (saw) rebuked him by saying, "That is too much, Abu Dharr. He who has a white mother has no advantage which makes him better than the son of a black mother." This rebuke had a profound effect on Abu Dharr, who then put his head on the ground swearing that he would not raise it until Bilal had put his foot over it.
"An Arab is no better than a non-Arab. In return, a non-Arab is no better than an Arab. A red raced man was not better than a black one except in piety. Mankind are all Adam's children and Adam was created out of clay." [Al-Bukhari and Muslim, on the authority of Abu Musa]
The Messenger of Allah (saw) said, "The Faithful are to one another like [parts of] a building - each part strengthening the others" and "Every Muslim is a brother to a Muslim, neither wronging him nor allowing him to be wronged. And if anyone helps his brother in need, Allah will help him in his own need; and if anyone removes a calamity from [another] Muslim, Allah will remove from him some of the calamities of the Day of Resurrection; and if anyone shields [another] Muslim from disgrace, Allah will shield him from the disgrace on the Day of Resurrection." [Al-Bukhari and Muslim, on the authority of `Abd Allah ibn `Umar].
WE NEED TO STOP THIS NATIONALISM.
a big problem with us is that we have nationalism and racism. i have seen somali hitler in words. i have seen many racist posts here.
I would like to tell you that nationalism is haraam.
"Leave it. It is Rotten " [Bukhari & Muslim]
" ...People should give up their pride in nations because this is a coal from the coals of hell-fire. If they do not give this up Allah (swt) will consider them lower than a lowly worm which pushes itself through khur (feces)." [abu Dawd and Tirmidhi]
In the Hadith recorded in Mishkat al-Masabith, the Messenger of Allah (saw) said, "He who calls for `Asabiyyah is as if he bit his father's genitals" Also, the Messenger of Allah (saw) said, narrated by At-Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud, "There are indeed people who boast of their dead ancestors; but in the sight of Allah they are more contemptible than the black beetle that rolls a piece of dung with its nose. Behold, Allah has removed from you the arrogance of the Time of Jahiliyyah (Ignorance) with its boast of ancestral glories. Man is but an Allah-fearing believer or an unfortunate sinner. All people are the children of Adam, and Adam was created out of dust."
Jabir ibn `Abd Allah al Ansari, narrated what happened at the watering place of al Muraysi which led to the Munafiqun stirring up the traces of `Asabiyah and seeking to destroy the unity of the Muslims. He said: "We were on a raid when one of the Muhajirun kicked one of the Ansar. The Ansar said, `O Ansar! Help me! (calling his tribe) and the Muhajir said, `O Muhajirun! Help me! (calling his tribe). The Messenger of Allah (saw) heard them and said, "Why are you stirring up something which belongs to Jahilliyah?" The Messenger of Allah (saw) did not deal with the situation only by speaking to his men, but he walked with the men all that day until nightfall, and through the night until morning and during the following day until the sun distressed them. Then he halted them, and as soon as they touched the ground, they fell asleep. He did this to distract their minds from what had transpired.
It is transmitted by at-Tabarani and al-Hakim that in one incident some people spoke very lowly about Salman al-Farsi. They spoke of the inferiority of the Persian in relation to the Arabs, and upon hearing this the Messenger of Allah (saw) declared, "Salman is from us, the ahl al-bayt (the Prophet's family)." This statement of the Messenger of Allah (saw) disassociates all links based on lineage and tribal considerations.
It was also transmitted, in two different versions, by Ibn al-Mubarak in his two books, Al-Birr and As-Salah, that some disagreement occurred between Abu Dharr and Bilal and Abu Dharr said to Bilal, "You son of a black woman." The Messenger of Allah (saw) was extremely upset by Abu Dharr's comment, so he (saw) rebuked him by saying, "That is too much, Abu Dharr. He who has a white mother has no advantage which makes him better than the son of a black mother." This rebuke had a profound effect on Abu Dharr, who then put his head on the ground swearing that he would not raise it until Bilal had put his foot over it.
"An Arab is no better than a non-Arab. In return, a non-Arab is no better than an Arab. A red raced man was not better than a black one except in piety. Mankind are all Adam's children and Adam was created out of clay." [Al-Bukhari and Muslim, on the authority of Abu Musa]
The Messenger of Allah (saw) said, "The Faithful are to one another like [parts of] a building - each part strengthening the others" and "Every Muslim is a brother to a Muslim, neither wronging him nor allowing him to be wronged. And if anyone helps his brother in need, Allah will help him in his own need; and if anyone removes a calamity from [another] Muslim, Allah will remove from him some of the calamities of the Day of Resurrection; and if anyone shields [another] Muslim from disgrace, Allah will shield him from the disgrace on the Day of Resurrection." [Al-Bukhari and Muslim, on the authority of `Abd Allah ibn `Umar].
WE NEED TO STOP THIS NATIONALISM.
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Re: TO ALL : Nationalism
kids these days getting smart and discussthing big issues. i am glad waryahoy. at 14 you are smart. Allah yahfathak.
Re: TO ALL : Nationalism
Ameen uncle hyper
Re: TO ALL : Nationalism
What about qabiilism? Isn't it by far worse than rationalism?
Re: TO ALL : Nationalism
I've been saying this since he joined.hyperactive wrote:kids these days getting smart and discussthing big issues. i am glad waryahoy. at 14 you are smart. Allah yahfathak.
Re: TO ALL : Nationalism
hyperactive wrote:kids these days getting smart and discussthing big issues. i am glad waryahoy. at 14 you are smart. Allah yahfathak.


You are so gullible.

Re: TO ALL : Nationalism
He is hutuking LOL! he started wishing some curses upon secessionists..DANGIRL wrote:hyperactive wrote:kids these days getting smart and discussthing big issues. i am glad waryahoy. at 14 you are smart. Allah yahfathak.![]()
You are so gullible.
Re: TO ALL : Nationalism
^ 
Any somali that thinks nationalism is wrong should be put to sleep.

Any somali that thinks nationalism is wrong should be put to sleep.

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Somaliland DalkaygaDANGIRL wrote:^
Any somali that thinks nationalism is wrong should be put to sleep. :blessed


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Re: TO ALL : Nationalism
^ Omar2futo,
abaha & qaniizkad tahayba wasse go back to bucury bacyr section !
abaha & qaniizkad tahayba wasse go back to bucury bacyr section !
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i can't see past all those flies, who left the window open
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Re: TO ALL : Nationalism
Masha Allah, may Allah reward your efforts young man. I believe there is a hadith about the consequences in the hereafter for tribilists as well, post it in sha Allah. JazakAllah khair for sharing.
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Re: TO ALL : Nationalism
Omar2futo,
did you know the smartest thing ever to come out of your stinkin mouth was a PENIS ileen qaniz sacad muse ah ayt tahye?
ps. you sound like a broken record b!tch come up with somethin' new next time
did you know the smartest thing ever to come out of your stinkin mouth was a PENIS ileen qaniz sacad muse ah ayt tahye?
ps. you sound like a broken record b!tch come up with somethin' new next time

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