The Expense of Education, Islamic

[SultanOrder]

I have always wondered about the expense that people are willing to go through for education. They will travel to foreign lands, adapt to new cultures, give up jobs and other worldly pursuits. All very noble and credible ideals, but sometimes our idealism gets in the way for practical knowledge. Not all of us made and prepared for such journeys. And this fact dissuades us from learning what we can. The attitude of "if I'm not going to go the hundred mile, while go to the first or second or to the 10th mile".
I have noticed a new phenomenon, the birth of the internet and the ready access of all kinds of knowledge only a click away. People don't have to go so far to learn knowledge anymore. To meet these demands online institutes to very basic online courses have popped up on the internet. Yet we sometimes don't feel like we are striving if we are not paying, a heavy price. There are little seminars popping all over giving very introductory knowledge, yet they charge exorbitant fees. But it fits in with our consumer led world-view, nothing is free, and if it don't cost much it aint worth much. Two pair of shoes my look the same, be of the same quality, and have the same exact function, but if one is a bit more, it means it is better.
I don't think we should get sucked into this mentality, it is often more times more debilitating than helpful.

I would like to introduce to you all, a free Islamic website, that offers courses all kinds of courses, that are as simple as they are extraordinary. And no they are not of bad quality because they are free. Use them as you please, but benefit from this wonderful resource.

http://seekersguidance.org/courses

[X.Playa]

By the time you finish this course you will be as a nut case as al-shabaab, this is the type of literature that makes and creats extremism.

[SultanOrder]

Are you familiar with seekersguidance? I didn't know them to raise extremists.

[Lillaahiya]

Mhmmm.

[X.Playa]

Are you familiar with seekersguidance? I didn't know them to raise extremists.

extermism is created by the literature itself not by some orgnizations, if you read enough Ibnu Taymiya you will end up calling 90% of all Muslims ..kufaar.. and you will justifiy their killings. Extremism is created by Islamic literatures, thats the honest fact. Al Bukhaari is among the top who legitmizes killing..rape.. slavery.. mutilations and all under the name of "some Saaxbaa did it to some Kaafir" so its ok and Suna to do so.

[SultanOrder]

Xplaya, lets say you were right, what can you do if people still do not heed your advice? They still want to maintain their "extremist literature", of course a certain amount will end up being "extremists", but for as the rest they will not. Let us stick with those who are not "extremist", they obviously want the literature but not the "extremism", so what is left for them? To give them the literature in a 'non-extremist' package. One way to do that is to get a 'non-extremist' teacher who does not dwell on the 'extremist' aspects but on the more 'positive' aspects. After all we all know there is a plethora of islamic literature, but not all of it is any good.

[Talo alle udaa]

By the time you finish this course you will be as a nut case as al-shabaab, this is the type of literature that makes and creats extremism.

If indeed your beliefs are on solid ground, what do you have to fear?
Idiots like you would like to reduce conflicts that arise out of multitude of factors to Islam because it's simple and it fits meets your own warped up view of the world.

Islamism in Somalia was an outcome of Siyad barre's scientific socialism, the civil war that destroyed the fabric of the somali society, and the wider Islamic awakening taking place spearheaded by the MB of Egypt. All these things are quite complex, but it's much simpler for guys like you with their own agenda to blame everything on Islam and tell people they should abandon it.

[gurey25]

By the time you finish this course you will be as a nut case as al-shabaab, this is the type of literature that makes and creats extremism.

am i reading this correctly, any islamic literature including hadith creates extremism??

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Ibn taymiyya, extremist?

[X.Playa]

By the time you finish this course you will be as a nut case as al-shabaab, this is the type of literature that makes and creats extremism.

If indeed your beliefs are on solid ground, what do you have to fear?
Idiots like you would like to reduce conflicts that arise out of multitude of factors to Islam because it's simple and it fits meets your own warped up view of the world.

Islamism in Somalia was an outcome of Siyad barre's scientific socialism, the civil war that destroyed the fabric of the somali society, and the wider Islamic awakening taking place spearheaded by the MB of Egypt. All these things are quite complex, but it's much simpler for guys like you with their own agenda to blame everything on Islam and tell people they should abandon it.

Not at all kid, the genesis of somali islamist began with the massive reeducation by Saudis of Somali religious youth via scholarship to their Wahaabi universities, results was in less then a generations somalis turned from Sufis into Salafis.

You have nothing to teach me here I know what am talking about, there is no moderate Islamist, its just a fake invention for your kind to still have his "sharci" facts is most Islamist be it Taliban, Wahaabi, Al-shabaab have the same base and that is Islamic literature that can't be reformed and thus its bound to produce extermist, you can't fake it, its says in all Islamic litearture that you must kill the unbelivers, take their property as booty and their wifes as a concubine. and thats extremism.

[X.Playa]

By the time you finish this course you will be as a nut case as al-shabaab, this is the type of literature that makes and creats extremism.

am i reading this correctly, any islamic literature including hadith creates extremism??

why not, take for example.. the raping of women prisoners of war.. in Islam its fine and dandy, Ali use to do that in many occasions, now you read that and you consider it suna, because a Saaxaabi use to do it so Islamically its fine.. so aint you an extermist by taking that as an articale of faith and Suna?

[gurey25]

extremist by whose defenition.
its not an absolute term, for example i find some of the wests development like its proselytization of homosexual rights as extreme.
salafism is not the ture face of islam, grave worshipping harmless sufis that can easily be integrated into secularism as another curiousity is not islam either.

this is a topic directed towards muslims, if you have anti-islamic beliefs and want to share them we are not interested.

[ihatewritingessays]

By the time you finish this course you will be as a nut case as al-shabaab, this is the type of literature that makes and creats extremism.

am i reading this correctly, any islamic literature including hadith creates extremism??

why not, take for example.. the raping of women prisoners of war.. in Islam its fine and dandy, Ali use to do that in many occasions, now you read that and you consider it suna, because a Saaxaabi use to do it so Islamically its fine.. so aint you an extermist by taking that as an articale of faith and Suna?

How is rape fine and dandy in islam when the punishment for it is death?

[InaSamaale]

Jazakallahu khair Perfect_Order for sharing that with us.

God knows that I need to turn my interest in seeking knowledge into more of a commitment. Will check it out when I get the chance InshaAllah.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Ibn thaymiya is the father of modern day extremism and ibn thaymiyahs alleged books which wahabis claim this mideavel shiekh wrote are the mine source of modern extremist and takfrism and suicide bombing. . And not many of you know that majorty of books which salafis claime that was written by ibn thaymiyah actually its fabricated books written whit in last 100 years by members of alaa sheikh clan who have sole monoboly of relegios scriptures in salafi kingdom saudi arabia.