Breaking news: the talks with RKs failed!
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Breaking news: the talks with RKs failed!
The talks with madoobe failed, and the Gov't do not accept them now, or their fake region state! the gov't can declare war on those theives any time soon.. they are already surrounded in Kismayo..
Kenya will be replaced to take them out finally! for those you thought the gov't would support madoobe! before the wish of Ilkoyar, were fare from reality!
and this is also slap in the face of those, you made the shiir in kenya against saacid!
http://kismaayo24.com/
Kenya will be replaced to take them out finally! for those you thought the gov't would support madoobe! before the wish of Ilkoyar, were fare from reality!
and this is also slap in the face of those, you made the shiir in kenya against saacid!
http://kismaayo24.com/
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Re: Breaking news: the talks with RKs failed!
if Madoobe is smart he would ignore the SFG altogether and put his energy and strength how to gain more territorial control and how to train more troops and to forge better and stronger relations with kenya. If Kenya supports his Mamuul, he does need the support of the SFG , he also needs to get the full backing of Ethiopia, right now the ethiopians are playing a double game of neutrality. Madoobes objective is to liberate the middle jubba and set up his admin if he does that he controls 2 regions of Jubba. And has more cards in his hands, right now SFG has nothing to offer him other than i will make you a governor of Kismayo. I never got the idea why madoobe puts so much interest in negotiating with the SFG. With the defeat of Hiiraale there is no threat coming towards him, the SFG just wants to Delegitimize the process he was elected on, if he accepts their meddling that means he shot him self in the foot. What he needs to do is build an autonomous state closely Linked with Kenyas north Eastern province and Let the Kenyans help with setting this up politically diplomatically let them give the state full legitimacy. And they are doing that madoobe needs to play his cards very smart.
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Re: Breaking news: the talks with RKs failed!
Good, good, this makes Madoobe less of an option in a post multi-AMISOM kismayo, this is very good news. if hes not co-operating with the SFG the SFG will look towards Diib-u-Xoreenyta Dalka Somalia XDS troops on the outskirts of Kismayu and arm them with heavy arms and funds.
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grandpakhalif wrote:Good, good, this makes Madoobe less of an option in a post multi-AMISOM kismayo, this is very good news. if hes not co-operating with the SFG the SFG will look towards Diib-u-Xoreenyta Dalka Somalia XDS troops on the outskirts of Kismayu and arm them with heavy arms and funds.
There is no way the Europeans will agree with multi Amisom in Kismayo, Culusow and his Foreign Minister havent done anything to convince the europeans to do that they just asked the African union to send different kind of Amisom forces. The Kenyans are not going any where any time soon
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Djibouti forces will be given the priority in Kismayu and have command, Ugandans and Burundians will manage the airport and port, Kenya will be stationed outside Kismayu in Dhoobley. Check out the new Security Council UN Report it condemns Kenya wholesaling charcoal and reaping the profits 50% of Kismayu port revenue goes to kikiyus the UN cannot accept this.
Re: Breaking news: the talks with RKs failed!
If things you are saying ever happend, then all somalis would join al-shabaab! and the war in Jubba will be big one! kenya vs somalia!khalid ali wrote:if Madoobe is smart he would ignore the SFG altogether and put his energy and strength how to gain more territorial control and how to train more troops and to forge better and stronger relations with kenya. If Kenya supports his Mamuul, he does need the support of the SFG , he also needs to get the full backing of Ethiopia, right now the ethiopians are playing a double game of neutrality. Madoobes objective is to liberate the middle jubba and set up his admin if he does that he controls 2 regions of Jubba. And has more cards in his hands, right now SFG has nothing to offer him other than i will make you a governor of Kismayo. I never got the idea why madoobe puts so much interest in negotiating with the SFG. With the defeat of Hiiraale there is no threat coming towards him, the SFG just wants to Delegitimize the process he was elected on, if he accepts their meddling that means he shot him self in the foot. What he needs to do is build an autonomous state closely Linked with Kenyas north Eastern province and Let the Kenyans help with setting this up politically diplomatically let them give the state full legitimacy. And they are doing that madoobe needs to play his cards very smart.
but the reality is something different! the gov't are Allies with EU and US! Culusow is now offcially the Hamid karzai of somalia, they will help him, through fire and storms! xataa!
EU and US! do not give a damn about Bantus interest in our land, because they forced those bantus to enter our lands! there lives do not cost a thing.. so do you think, they would spoil all this Money used on this campaign, so kenya and madoobe can destroy their project!
The Gov't is the project of EU and US! they will try to remove everything in their way!
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Maxamed Cabdi Kaliil “Marna lagama yaabo in wadahadal aan la galno Axmed Madoobe”
July 15, 2013 - Waxaa Qorey : Balcad Muqdisho -
Gudoomiyaha gobalka Gedo ee dowladda Soomaaliya Maxamed Cabdi Kaliil ayaa shaaca ka qaaday in marnaba aanay wax wada hadal ah la geli doonin maamulka Jubaland ee Axmed Madoobe.
Waxa uu sheegay in aanu aqoon saneen ka shaqsi ahaan maamulka Jubaland, islamarkaana ay ka hortagi doonaan maamulkaasi oo hadda sheegay inuu ku kooban yahay magaalada Kismaayo ee gobalka J/hoose.
“Marna lagama yaabo in wadahadal aan la galno Axmed Madoobe, waxaan u baahannahay in la xureeyo gobaladaasi oo dhan, Garbahaareey ilaa Kismaayo in la’isku furo, balse cadow oo dalka heesta lagama yaabo in Jubaland ay dhaqan gasho”
Maamulka Axmed Madoobe ee Jubaland ayaan xilligaan haysan taageero xoogan, hase ahaatee waxa uu maamulkaasi yahay mid doonaaya in hadda uu kasbado dhamaan shacabka degan gobalada Jubooyinka iyo Gedo.
Inta Jeer ee la Aqrisatay
Sources: http://balcad.com/maxamed-cabdi-kaliil- ... d-madoobe/
July 15, 2013 - Waxaa Qorey : Balcad Muqdisho -
Gudoomiyaha gobalka Gedo ee dowladda Soomaaliya Maxamed Cabdi Kaliil ayaa shaaca ka qaaday in marnaba aanay wax wada hadal ah la geli doonin maamulka Jubaland ee Axmed Madoobe.
Waxa uu sheegay in aanu aqoon saneen ka shaqsi ahaan maamulka Jubaland, islamarkaana ay ka hortagi doonaan maamulkaasi oo hadda sheegay inuu ku kooban yahay magaalada Kismaayo ee gobalka J/hoose.
“Marna lagama yaabo in wadahadal aan la galno Axmed Madoobe, waxaan u baahannahay in la xureeyo gobaladaasi oo dhan, Garbahaareey ilaa Kismaayo in la’isku furo, balse cadow oo dalka heesta lagama yaabo in Jubaland ay dhaqan gasho”
Maamulka Axmed Madoobe ee Jubaland ayaan xilligaan haysan taageero xoogan, hase ahaatee waxa uu maamulkaasi yahay mid doonaaya in hadda uu kasbado dhamaan shacabka degan gobalada Jubooyinka iyo Gedo.
Inta Jeer ee la Aqrisatay
Sources: http://balcad.com/maxamed-cabdi-kaliil- ... d-madoobe/
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Re: Breaking news: the talks with RKs failed!
grandpakhalif wrote:Djibouti forces will be given the priority in Kismayu and have command, Ugandans and Burundians will manage the airport and port, Kenya will be stationed outside Kismayu in Dhoobley. Check out the new Security Council UN Report it condemns Kenya wholesaling charcoal and reaping the profits 50% of Kismayu port revenue goes to kikiyus the UN cannot accept this.
Do you think a UN report is changing things on the ground if it did the the Bank scandal of Somalias SFG would've changed something
The UN does not control the Amisom forces nor do they make decision on such matters the European union does. The only place where ugandans and burundians are going is bay bakool when the ethiopians fully vacate those regions. You have to understand the Kenyans have invested allot Kenya security is a must for the west and Kenya has convinced the west that it needs its troops in Somalia until Alshabaab is cleaned. in result kneya will help Jubbaland state. Trust me the SFG has not the diplomatic muscle to confront Kenya , maybe in a few years time when their skills on international relations is improved. When they become more relevant in the region and to the west. Right now this is not the case, Somalia is not in charge of its domestic affairs and certainly it cannot dictate Amisom countries what to do and what it cant do.
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Re: Breaking news: the talks with RKs failed!
What are you talking about the UN is the one who dictates to Somalia, Somalia is under UN trusteeship, they are the ones who drafted the constitution, the parliament, they are the ones who created the road map. The EU is just an extension of the UN, the EU just provides funding to the UN then the UN disburses money to AMISOM, AMISOM is run by the UN.
Remember Mahinga and now this British guy Nicholas Kay ran the show, so expect the UN to make some changes in Kismayu sector, KDF have violated their mandate and now the UN will take action.
Remember Mahinga and now this British guy Nicholas Kay ran the show, so expect the UN to make some changes in Kismayu sector, KDF have violated their mandate and now the UN will take action.
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Madman23 wrote:If things you are saying ever happend, then all somalis would join al-shabaab! and the war in Jubba will be big one! kenya vs somalia!khalid ali wrote:if Madoobe is smart he would ignore the SFG altogether and put his energy and strength how to gain more territorial control and how to train more troops and to forge better and stronger relations with kenya. If Kenya supports his Mamuul, he does need the support of the SFG , he also needs to get the full backing of Ethiopia, right now the ethiopians are playing a double game of neutrality. Madoobes objective is to liberate the middle jubba and set up his admin if he does that he controls 2 regions of Jubba. And has more cards in his hands, right now SFG has nothing to offer him other than i will make you a governor of Kismayo. I never got the idea why madoobe puts so much interest in negotiating with the SFG. With the defeat of Hiiraale there is no threat coming towards him, the SFG just wants to Delegitimize the process he was elected on, if he accepts their meddling that means he shot him self in the foot. What he needs to do is build an autonomous state closely Linked with Kenyas north Eastern province and Let the Kenyans help with setting this up politically diplomatically let them give the state full legitimacy. And they are doing that madoobe needs to play his cards very smart.
but the reality is something different! the gov't are Allies with EU and US! Culusow is now offcially the Hamid karzai of somalia, they will help him, through fire and storms! xataa!
EU and US! do not give a damn about Bantus interest in our land, because they forced those bantus to enter our lands! there lives do not cost a thing.. so do you think, they would spoil all this Money used on this campaign, so kenya and madoobe can destroy their project!
The Gov't is the project of EU and US! they will try to remove everything in their way!
Kenya is the prince of Britain Kenya is a trading partner of Europe Kenya is a tourist country Kenya has a strong Economy
There is no Somalia versus Kenya stop deluding your self, Somalia is not Afghanistan, Alshabaab does not form direct threat to US interests. Taliban did thats why Nato was there isaf and the Americans. The EU has more interests in Kenya than any other country in Africa . The western countries yes support the SFG government they back it give it legitimacy and support. But not that the expense of Kenya's interests , by the way Somalia has a federal constitution so Kenya is not really doing anything wrong it is just supporting a region of Somalia. This is not alarming for the west. You have to understand the interests of the West in Somalia and the interest of the west in Kenya,when u go figure that out we will continue this debate
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Khalid WTF ninyahow! are you on khat or something! war waa bantu soldiers! the Money Means everything to them not those bantus and their interests!khalid ali wrote:Madman23 wrote:If things you are saying ever happend, then all somalis would join al-shabaab! and the war in Jubba will be big one! kenya vs somalia!khalid ali wrote:if Madoobe is smart he would ignore the SFG altogether and put his energy and strength how to gain more territorial control and how to train more troops and to forge better and stronger relations with kenya. If Kenya supports his Mamuul, he does need the support of the SFG , he also needs to get the full backing of Ethiopia, right now the ethiopians are playing a double game of neutrality. Madoobes objective is to liberate the middle jubba and set up his admin if he does that he controls 2 regions of Jubba. And has more cards in his hands, right now SFG has nothing to offer him other than i will make you a governor of Kismayo. I never got the idea why madoobe puts so much interest in negotiating with the SFG. With the defeat of Hiiraale there is no threat coming towards him, the SFG just wants to Delegitimize the process he was elected on, if he accepts their meddling that means he shot him self in the foot. What he needs to do is build an autonomous state closely Linked with Kenyas north Eastern province and Let the Kenyans help with setting this up politically diplomatically let them give the state full legitimacy. And they are doing that madoobe needs to play his cards very smart.
but the reality is something different! the gov't are Allies with EU and US! Culusow is now offcially the Hamid karzai of somalia, they will help him, through fire and storms! xataa!
EU and US! do not give a damn about Bantus interest in our land, because they forced those bantus to enter our lands! there lives do not cost a thing.. so do you think, they would spoil all this Money used on this campaign, so kenya and madoobe can destroy their project!
The Gov't is the project of EU and US! they will try to remove everything in their way!
Kenya is the prince of Britain Kenya is a trading partner of Europe Kenya is a tourist country Kenya has a strong Economy
There is no Somalia versus Kenya stop deluding your self, Somalia is not Afghanistan, Alshabaab does not form direct threat to US interests. Taliban did thats why Nato was there isaf and the Americans. The EU has more interests in Kenya than any other country in Africa . The western countries yes support the SFG government they back it give it legitimacy and support. But not that the expense of Kenya's interests , by the way Somalia has a federal constitution so Kenya is not really doing anything wrong it is just supporting a region of Somalia. This is not alarming for the west. You have to understand the interests of the West in Somalia and the interest of the west in Kenya,when u go figure that out we will continue this debate
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Re: Breaking news: the talks with RKs failed!
grandpakhalif wrote:What are you talking about the UN is the one who dictates to Somalia, Somalia is under UN trusteeship, they are the ones who drafted the constitution, the parliament, they are the ones who created the road map. The EU is just an extension of the UN, the EU just provides funding to the UN then the UN disburses money to AMISOM, AMISOM is run by the UN.
Remember Mahinga and now this British guy Nicholas Kay ran the show, so expect the UN to make some changes in Kismayu sector, KDF have violated their mandate and now the UN will take action.
Not true Somalia is not under UN trustee ship its heavily under UN influence what makes you think the UN cares if Kenya misbehaves in Somalia or takes revenues do you know how many reports there were when Ethiopia and Kenya misbehaved in Somalia these are just formalities on the ground. This does not mean the UN will take actions on Kenya u will be very disappointed.
The only way Somalia can seriously challenge Kenya on the ground and in the international stage is the following
Somalia gains more territorial control more domestic legitimacy
Somalia shows its diplomatic muscle in western capitals
Somalia creates enormous interest in Somalia that overshadows Kenya
Somalia gains more leverage inside its own sovereign territory
You expect UN to do the Fighting for you , UN just writes reports it doesn't change something on the ground if you dont push the right buttons
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fantasy, fairtales, or its from a movie, what u are writting..khalid ali wrote:grandpakhalif wrote:What are you talking about the UN is the one who dictates to Somalia, Somalia is under UN trusteeship, they are the ones who drafted the constitution, the parliament, they are the ones who created the road map. The EU is just an extension of the UN, the EU just provides funding to the UN then the UN disburses money to AMISOM, AMISOM is run by the UN.
Remember Mahinga and now this British guy Nicholas Kay ran the show, so expect the UN to make some changes in Kismayu sector, KDF have violated their mandate and now the UN will take action.
Not true Somalia is not under UN trustee ship its heavily under UN influence what makes you think the UN cares if Kenya misbehaves in Somalia or takes revenues do you know how many reports there were when Ethiopia and Kenya misbehaved in Somalia these are just formalities on the ground. This does not mean the UN will take actions on Kenya u will be very disappointed.
The only way Somalia can seriously challenge Kenya on the ground and in the international stage is the following
Somalia gains more territorial control more domestic legitimacy
Somalia shows its diplomatic muscle in western capitals
Somalia creates enormous interest in Somalia that overshadows Kenya
Somalia gains more leverage inside its own sovereign territory
You expect UN to do the Fighting for you , UN just writes reports it doesn't change something on the ground if you dont push the right buttons
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Re: Breaking news: the talks with RKs failed!

The Hassan Sheikh regime are the clowns of Africa....nobody takes them seriously.
The Kenyans launched their intervention in Somalia unilaterally nobody can compel them to leave, least of all Hassan Sheikh.
As long as Al Shabaab are still a threat to Kenyan national security interests, the KDF will remain in Somalia.
Its more or less game over for the Hagites, their proxy forces have been routed and J/Land power has been consolidated.



Re: Breaking news: the talks with RKs failed!
original dervish wrote:Discussing geopolitics with a group whom only just started calling themselves a people, after 22 years of moryaanism.
The Hassan Sheikh regime are the clowns of Africa....nobody takes them seriously.
The Kenyans launched their intervention in Somalia unilaterally nobody can compel them to leave, least of all Hassan Sheikh.
As long as Al Shabaab are still a threat to Kenyan national security interests, the KDF will remain in Somalia.
Its more or less game over for the Hagites, their proxy forces have been routed and J/Land power has been consolidated.![]()
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