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Kenya wants Somalia and Somaliland to cut ties.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:19 am
by Khalid Ali
SIR CULUS:- Wasiiradda Arrimaha Dibadda Kenya oo Bohol u qodeyso Maamulka Somaliland (Waa maxay Bohoshaasi)

Sep 22, 2013 - jawaab

Xog hoose oo ay heshay Shabakadda daldoon ayaa sheegeysa in Wasiirad Arrimaha Dibadda Dalka Kenya Aamina Maxamed, ay wado Qorshe ay ku abuureyso Colaado dhex mara Xukuumadda Somalia iyo Maamulka Somaliland.

Sir hoose oo laga helay Xildhibaan ka tirsan Xukuumadda Kenya, ayaa sheegeysa in Madaxweynaha Kenya iyo ku xigeenkiisa ay Wasiiradda ku amreen inay abuurto Siyaasad Cusub oo lagu faragaliyo Arrimaha Somalia, taasoo uu xildhibaankaasi ku sheegay in lagu bedeli doono faragalintii Kenya ay ku heysay Kismaayo ee laga faramaroojiyay.

Waxa uu sidoo kale, Tibaaxay in Wasiiradda ay lakulmi doonto Madaxda Maamulka Somaliland si ay u gala xaajooto Jarida calaaqaadka ay Somaliland u jarto Xukuumadda Somalia, sida ay Xigashadu sheegeyso.

Sidoo kale, Xogta ayaa waxa ay Tilmaameysaa in Ujeedka la kulanka Wasiiradda Kenya ee Somaliland uu yahay sidii uu usii socon lahaa Khilaafaadka Xukuumadda iyo Maamulka Somaliland, maadaama Kenya ay weysay Hamigii Kismaayo.

Ugu dambeyntii, waxan lasii saadalin Karin halka ay Wasiiradda Arrimaha Dibadda Kenya iyo Maamulka Somaliland ku wada kulmi lahaayeen, Balse Xog horu dhac ah ayaa sheegeyso inay isku arki doonaan Magaalladda Addis Ababa oo labada dhinacba kala dhexeeyo Siyaasad gaar ah.


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Re: Kenya wants Somalia and Somaliland to cut ties.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:43 am
by sahal80
Lol that will be againist somalilands interests like the talks

Somaliland is not like any other somali region because it has no interests in the south and has different agenda.

Re: Kenya wants Somalia and Somaliland to cut ties.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:48 am
by Khalid Ali
Kenya wants to weaken Somalias interests in the region, because the SFG is gaining momentum and its made a deal with Jubba state which is diminishing Kenya's role in Somalia the moment Madoobe went to Kismayo. Kenya's role in Somalia dropped, in the sense of diplomatic strength in Somalias domestic affairs. the Ethiopians on the other hand balance their relations between all Somalis. The Kenyans are amateurs and put all their basket in Jubba land and in Ahmed madoobe's hands. I dont know what the Kenyans have to offer us we have to wait and see if the price is bigger , but so far the talks and ties and the unofficial undersanding between Somalia and Somaliland seems going the right way.

Re: Kenya wants Somalia and Somaliland to cut ties.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:51 am
by GIJaamac
What will the SFG lose if Kenya's wishes would become true ?

Re: Kenya wants Somalia and Somaliland to cut ties.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:53 am
by OjOO
Khalid Ali wrote:Kenya wants to weaken Somalias interests in the region, because the SFG is gaining momentum and its made a deal with Jubba state which is diminishing Kenya's role in Somalia the moment Madoobe went to Kismayo. Kenya's role in Somalia dropped, in the sense of diplomatic strength in Somalias domestic affairs. the Ethiopians on the other hand balance their relations between all Somalis. The Kenyans are amateurs and put all their basket in Jubba land and in Ahmed madoobe's hands. I dont know what the Kenyans have to offer us we have to wait and see if the price is bigger , but so far the talks and ties and the unofficial undersanding between Somalia and Somaliland seems going the right way.

I think that is you dream , oromo boy :dj:

Re: Kenya wants Somalia and Somaliland to cut ties.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:57 am
by Khalid Ali
Galla qoshasha dont u have a toilet to clean some where in Adwa perhaps :lol:

Re: Kenya wants Somalia and Somaliland to cut ties.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:14 pm
by sahal80
Khalid Ali wrote:Kenya wants to weaken Somalias interests in the region, because the SFG is gaining momentum and its made a deal with Jubba state which is diminishing Kenya's role in Somalia the moment Madoobe went to Kismayo. Kenya's role in Somalia dropped, in the sense of diplomatic strength in Somalias domestic affairs. the Ethiopians on the other hand balance their relations between all Somalis. The Kenyans are amateurs and put all their basket in Jubba land and in Ahmed madoobe's hands. I dont know what the Kenyans have to offer us we have to wait and see if the price is bigger , but so far the talks and ties and the unofficial undersanding between Somalia and Somaliland seems going the right way.
I get what you meant: diminishing somalia interests as a state but what somaliland has to offer kenya in exchange? For example you would always see faroole with madoobe.

somaliland has no interests in the south not just that it has a different national agenda.

In other words it won't hurt the somali govt to be honesty, somaliland is already away, I believe it will more damage the somaliland interests.

Khalid it can work if your looking first to have interests in the south and start backing jubbaland according to the philosophy the enemy of my enemy is my friend by collaborating with kenya in this but the somali politics are not motivated by interests. This is the only way to connect with kenya...all the ex failed politicians including geedi are supporting jubbaland.

Re: Kenya wants Somalia and Somaliland to cut ties.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:16 pm
by xaliye123
:lol: :lol:

Re: Kenya wants Somalia and Somaliland to cut ties.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:34 pm
by Individual
When is the talks between FSG and Somalia waqooye anyway?

Re: Kenya wants Somalia and Somaliland to cut ties.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:41 pm
by 500ml
october

Re: Kenya wants Somalia and Somaliland to cut ties.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:34 pm
by Khalid Ali
Sahal you are correct Somaliland has no business in the south,so in this case they cant serve Kenya's interests. But the SFG and Somaliland are very close in understanding and cooperation. Its not what Somaliland can offer the Kenyans its that the Kenyans, want the special relationship that is about to be build to be halted.I mean the stronger the SFG gets the worse for the Kenyans and their role will diminish and they will lose their economic sphere of influence over the region. So their goal is not Somaliland or reaching out to Somaliland but to downgrade the SFG regional political powers in south and central Somalia. Always view things from Kenya's point of view their interests what do they want to achieve forget about SL and Somalia's interests what do the Kenyans want.

Re: Kenya wants Somalia and Somaliland to cut ties.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:44 pm
by 500ml
Khalid Ali wrote:Sahal you are correct Somaliland has no business in the south,so in this case they cant serve Kenya's interests. But the SFG and Somaliland are very close in understanding and cooperation. Its not what Somaliland can offer the Kenyans its that the Kenyans, want the special relationship that is about to be build to be halted.I mean the stronger the SFG gets the worse for the Kenyans and their role will diminish and they will lose their economic sphere of influence over the region. So their goal is not Somaliland or reaching out Somaliland but to downgrade the SFG regional political powers in south and central Somalia. Always view things from Kenya's point of view their interests what do they want to achieve forget about SL and Somalia's interests what do the Kenyans want.
somaliland, just give up on independence, we are stronger together.

Re: Kenya wants Somalia and Somaliland to cut ties.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:47 pm
by Khalid Ali
We would never do that

Re: Kenya wants Somalia and Somaliland to cut ties.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:56 pm
by FarhanYare
misplaced priorities 101 kenya should focus on themselves :)

Re: Kenya wants Somalia and Somaliland to cut ties.

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:57 pm
by 500ml
what if the war criminals that were responsible for 88 are puniched, the destroyed buildings are rebuilt, the people who lost their loved ones are paid and create some kind of deal with FGS and somaliland aministration. But if you still believe in independence then I'll say that the isaaqs are always naive proud people who think they are much better than they really are.