Wikileaks: 1990 Total Collapse Of SNM Rebels Iyo Barre Army

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Date:1990 March 13
https://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/ ... 527_a.html

REPORT TO PRESIDENT
SIAD BARRE, ABOUT THE STATUS OF HIS ARMY IN THE NORTH & SNM REBEL GROUP.

PROFITEERING "WARLORDS" HAD TAKEN FULL CHARGE OF
SOMALI ARMY FORCES STATIONED IN THE NORTHWEST. HE FOUND
NONE/NONE PROSECUTING THE WAR AGAINST SNM. INSTEAD,
ALL SENIOR COMMANDERS WERE DEVOTING THEMSELVES ENTIRELY
TO BUSINESS DEALS, SELLING SOLDIERS' RATIONS, FUEL, AND
AMMUNITION TO BOTH SNM AND TRIBAL FIGHTERS.
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-- FIGHTING NOW GOING ON WAS CONDUCTED ALMOST
EXCLUSIVELY BY TRIBAL MILITIAS OR "FRONTS" AND WAS AIMED
AT PRESERVING TRIBAL TERRITORIES, HERDS, WATERHOLES, AND
GRAZING AREAS AGAINST ENCROACHMENTS BY OTHERS (OFTEN BUT
NOT ALWAYS SNM). SOLDIERS BELONGING TO LOCAL CLANS HAD
DESERTED THEIR UNITS AND SHED THEIR UNIFORMS IN ORDER TO
FIGHT ALONGSIDE TRIBAL BROTHERS; THOSE FROM OUTSIDE THE
REGION HAD SIMPLY WITHDRAWN TO TOWNS TO WAIT OUT THE WAR.
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-- TRADE IN GUNS AND AMMUNITION HAD BECOME HIGHLY
PROFITABLE FOR ARMY OFFICERS, SINCE BOTH SNM AND ALLIES
AND THEIR TRIBAL OPPONENTS WERE BIDDING UP PRICES.
COMMANDERS WERE ALSO PROFITLNG FROM DESERTION OF THEIR
TROOPS BY SIMPLY POCKETING SALARIES.
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-- MANY DISPLACED PERSONS (I.E. ISAAKS) WOULD HAVE
RETURNED HOME LONG AGO HAD THEY NOT BEEN DETERRED FROM
DOING SO BY BOTH/BOTH SNM AND GOVERNMENT FORCES. GROWING
NUMBERS WERE NOW RETURNING, BECAUSE AUTHORITY ON BOTH
SIDES HAD PRACTICALLY COLLAPSED AND ISAAKS, SUFFERING
FROM THIRST, HUNGER, DISEASE, AND ABOMINABLE CAMP
CONDITIONS, WERE DEMANDING TO GO HOME.
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-- AMONG THEMSELVES, TRIBAL LEADERS -- REALIZING THEY HAD
BECOME VICTIMS AND PAWNS IN THE WAR BETWEEN SIAD AND SNM --
WERE NEGOTIATING PEACE AGREEMENTS ON ALL SIDES. ISAAKS OF
HABR TOLJALQ AND HABR YUNIS CLANS HAD SIGNED A TRUCE
WITH DOLBAHANTA FROM LAS ANOD. ISAAKS FROM HARGEISA AND
BORAMA HABR AWAL WERE SUING QADABOURSI FOR PEACE ALONG
THEIR COMMON TERRITORIAL BORDER EAST OF BORAMA. A SIMILAR
AGREEMENT BETWEEN GADABOURSI AND ISSA APPEARED WITHIN
REACH.
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-- CLOSURE OF DJIBOUTI-BORAMA HIGHWAY HAD BADLY HURT
COMMUNITIES ALONG THAT ROAD AND FORCED PRICES SKY HIGH IN
BORAMA. A 50 KILO BAG OF RICE NOW COST MORE THAN 80,000
SO.SH., OR ABOUT TWELVE TIMES THE PRICE OF AN AVERAGE
GOAT. HOWEVER, GADABOURSI IN BORAMA HAD ESTABLISHED
ALTERNATIVE TRADE LINKS VIA BERBERA AND WERE RUNNING
CONVOYS UNDER ARMED (NON-MILITARY) ESCORT FOUR TIMES A
MONTH, CARRYING LIVESTOCK TO BERBERA PORT AND RETURNING
WITH SUPPLIES OF FOOD. (COLONEL OMAR COMMENTED THAT IT
WAS NOW DJIBOUTI ITSELF THAT WAS SUFFERING MOST FROM
CLOSURE OF THE ROAD AND LOSS OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY.)

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4. THE SNM LEADERSHIP WAS
ITSELF COLLAPSING, ITS FORCES HAD TAKEN SEVERAL SEVERE
DEFEATS AT THE HANDS OF GADABOURSI AND OTHER TRIBAL
"FRONTS" IN RECENT WEEKS, AND ISAAK ELDERS WERE PROBING
FOR PEACE DEALS AMONG BOTH OTHER TRIBAL GROUPS AND GSDR
ITSELF. SNM LEADERS WERE NO LONGER "TALKING SO TOUGH"
AS THEY HAD BEFORE AND ARE SO DIVIDED THEY HAVE BEEN UNABLE
TO HOLD THEIR SCHEDULED CONGRESS. INDEED, COLONEL OMAR
SAID, THEY HAVE FALLEN INTO THE SAME HABITS AS SOMALI
ARMY OFFICERS: USING TRUCKS DONATED BY ISAAK SUPPORTERS TO
TRANSPORT KHAT AND FOR OTHER PRIVATE COMMERICAL PURPOSES.


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5. ONE INTERESTING SIDELIGHT: WITH THE EXHAUSTION OF
NOMADIC FIGHTERS ON BOTH SIDES OR THE BORDER AND SOLDIERS
FROM BOTH SIDES SELLING THEIR GUNS TO BUY FOOD, BIGGEST
PURCHASERS OF WEAPONS HAVE TURNED OUT TO BE THE OROMO
LIBERATION FRONT. OMAR POINTED OUT THAT THE OLF (WHICH
COUNTS ON BACKING FROM SOME 22 MILLION OROMOS, OMAR SAID)
NOW SEES AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MENGISTU'S
SETBACKS AT THE HANDS OF ERITREANS AND TIGRAYANS AND HAVE
SUDDENLY GROWN VERY AMBITIOUS.

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6. COMMENT: COLONEL OMAR'S ASSIGNMENT, WE INFER, WAS TO
INSURE THAT THE GADABOURSI AROUND BORAMA REMAIN FIRMLY
ENROLLED ON THE SIDE OF THE GOVERNMENT (THEY ARE IN FACT
SURROUNDED BY ANTI-GOVERNMENT ISAAK AND ISSA FORCES THAT
HAVE BEEN TRYING UNSUCCESSFULLY TO BRING BORAMA TO ITS
KNEES). OMAR SEEMS TO HAVE GONE BEYOND HIS ASSIGNMENT,
HOWEVER, TO SURVEY THE MILITARY AND POLITICAL SITUATION
GENERALLY IN THE NORTHWEST. HIS REPORT TO THE PRESIDENT
HAS BOTH BAD NEWS AND GOOD NEWS: AN UTTERLY INEFFECTIVE
AND CORRUPT SOMALI ARMY FORCE FACING AN EQUALLY INEFFECTUAL
AND EXHAUSTED INSURGENCY. OMAR BELIEVES EVERYONE IS TIRED
OF THE WAR NOW AND LOOKING FOR PEACE AND WE HOPE HE'S
RIGHT. CERTAINLY PRIME MINISTER SAMANTAR IS COUNTING
HEAVILY ON THE FATIGUE FACTOR, AS HE MOUNTS HIS RELIEF
OPERATION FOR RETURNED ISAAKS IN BURAO AND PROMISES A
PEACE AGREEMENT WITHIN TWO MONTHS.

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THE SNM LEADERSHIP WAS
ITSELF COLLAPSING, ITS FORCES HAD TAKEN SEVERAL SEVERE
DEFEATS AT THE HANDS OF GADABOURSI AND OTHER TRIBAL
"FRONTS" IN RECENT WEEKS, AND ISAAK ELDERS WERE PROBING
FOR PEACE DEALS AMONG BOTH OTHER TRIBAL GROUPS AND GSDR
ITSELF. SNM LEADERS WERE NO LONGER "TALKING SO TOUGH"
AS THEY HAD BEFORE AND ARE SO DIVIDED THEY HAVE BEEN UNABLE
TO HOLD THEIR SCHEDULED CONGRESS. INDEED, COLONEL OMAR
SAID, THEY HAVE FALLEN INTO THE SAME HABITS AS SOMALI
ARMY OFFICERS: USING TRUCKS DONATED BY ISAAK SUPPORTERS TO
TRANSPORT KHAT AND FOR OTHER PRIVATE COMMERICAL PURPOSES.

-- AMONG THEMSELVES, TRIBAL LEADERS -- REALIZING THEY HAD
BECOME VICTIMS AND PAWNS IN THE WAR BETWEEN SIAD AND SNM --
WERE NEGOTIATING PEACE AGREEMENTS ON ALL SIDES. ISAAKS OF
HABR TOLJALQ AND HABR YUNIS CLANS HAD SIGNED A TRUCE
WITH DOLBAHANTA FROM LAS ANOD. ISAAKS FROM HARGEISA AND
BORAMA HABR AWAL WERE SUING QADABOURSI FOR PEACE ALONG
THEIR COMMON TERRITORIAL BORDER EAST OF BORAMA. A SIMILAR
AGREEMENT BETWEEN GADABOURSI AND ISSA APPEARED WITHIN
REACH.

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I say no talks with iidoors, they can easily be brought to submission.

[Hodan94]

Lmao like 1990 is now irrelevant.
snm yes did collapse at that period as they formed the somaliland government.
and oxymoron.....keep hating mate, we had the last laugh.
where are your ppl? Fuckin refugees in kenya and ethiopia so dont chat shit mate.

[SecretAgent]

Dude ur wrong SNM defeated all minority clans in 1990-1991 with da backing of ethiopan tanks n troops by may 18 1991 hartis n dirs were slaves of SNM

[Hodan94]

?....

[Khalid Ali]

The SNM fought like men and never gave up But the Girly Majeerteen ssdf gave up with out a fight what effeminate qabiil in 1984 with their submissive big asss they sat on Maxamamad afweyne's lap and were willing to be suckled by Mama Khadija . Just for the Majeerteen to be massacred along side their darood Kin in Mogadishu few years later. In 2006 they wanted revenge laakin ma xiiniyo xabashi baad ku aarsan what a weakling So who is talking to you Somaliland is talking to Mogadishu your superiors those you have been crying about the past year or so that you were sidelined and cornered, now keep on crying Mogadishu Go'odoon baad ka tahay

[ToughGong]

And this of course is why the SNM lost the war and Borame and Las Anod are now in the hands of the faqash

[Khalid Ali]

Dude ur wrong SNM defeated all minority clans in 1990-1991 with da backing of ethiopan tanks n troops by may 18 1991 hartis n dirs were slaves of SNM

Qudhunbuursi stop your lies SNM and Derg relations were cut in 1988 there was no relations with the Xabashis , your Qudhunbuursi were conquered with in 24 hours by Afaraad faction of the SNM you raised the white flag after we passed dila and we forgave you for your whorish behavior and prostituting your self for the daroods

[oxymoron]

The SNM fought like men and never gave up But the Girly Majeerteen ssdf gave up with out a fight what effeminate qabiil in 1984 with their submissive big asss they sat on Maxamamad afweyne's lap and were willing to be suckled by Mama Khadija . Just for the Majeerteen to be massacred along side their darood Kin in Mogadishu few years later. In 2006 they wanted revenge laakin ma xiiniyo xabashi baad ku aarsan what a weakling So who is talking to you Somaliland is talking to Mogadishu your superiors those you have been crying about the past year or so that you were sidelined and cornered, now keep on crying Mogadishu Go'odoon baad ka tahay

You have been reduced to beg recognition, from powerless adoon protected HAG, indeed they are your superiors, and I am theirs so bitch your staying starving and isolated until I say so.

I think I rather believe U.S intelligence over some high on Khat Habar like yourself who was made to eat shit by your own kin.

Habar Yoonis made Habar jeclo eat shit during their civil war.

skywalker Are you mistaking me for the HJ elders that got hacked like goats in the river of blood poem and forced to carry Poo in their mouths?

We all know the reality. Sacad Yoonis or not, if you step out of line you will be put in your place for the Pinky boy you are.

See how me even mentioning you carrying shoes in your mouth brought your whole nonsense back down to normality and less kibir.lool. Bloody simpleton.

As for the river of blood. Do you who that tribe was? My reer daahir. My own uncle was one of the reer daahir elders killed but what you fail to mention is the price exacted in revenge. I won't go into detail but let me mention a town called tuulo habreed were the whole town and its inhabitants had fled and only a single Habar left. O how Yawle was killed during this battle. A heavy price was paid for that sneaky attack trust me.

You tell me about Farax sussle your sultan who had to carry shoes in his mouth as a condition for peace.

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THE SNM LEADERSHIP WAS
ITSELF COLLAPSING, ITS FORCES HAD TAKEN SEVERAL SEVERE
DEFEATS AT THE HANDS OF GADABOURSI AND OTHER TRIBAL
"FRONTS" IN RECENT WEEKS, AND ISAAK ELDERS WERE PROBING
FOR PEACE DEALS AMONG BOTH OTHER TRIBAL GROUPS AND GSDR
ITSELF. SNM LEADERS WERE NO LONGER "TALKING SO TOUGH"
AS THEY HAD BEFORE AND ARE SO DIVIDED THEY HAVE BEEN UNABLE
TO HOLD THEIR SCHEDULED CONGRESS. INDEED, COLONEL OMAR
SAID, THEY HAVE FALLEN INTO THE SAME HABITS AS SOMALI
ARMY OFFICERS: USING TRUCKS DONATED BY ISAAK SUPPORTERS TO
TRANSPORT KHAT AND FOR OTHER PRIVATE COMMERICAL PURPOSES.

[Khalid Ali]

Lady nas u have not been the same since the Hawiyes discarded your Majeerteen asss , you really want to be Prime Minister this bad the Hawiyes you are insulting now are the same one you were begging to be their second remember how you were convinced a Majeerteen will succeed saacid You are now confined in your little dessert slaamihi Majeerteen eeh odhan jiray xamar naga geyaa meel kale kuma dhali karno eh baad noqotay

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Lady nas u have not been the same since the Hawiyes discarded your Majeerteen asss , you really want to be Prime Minister this bad the Hawiyes you are insulting now are the same one you were begging to be their second remember how you were convinced a Majeerteen will succeed saacid You are now confined in your little dessert slaamihi Majeerteen eeh odhan jiray xamar naga geyaa meel kale kuma dhali karno eh baad noqotay

I just have one question for you. Will you eat Hassan Shiekh's Shit for Recognition?

[Khalid Ali]

Lady nas u have not been the same since the Hawiyes discarded your Majeerteen asss , you really want to be Prime Minister this bad the Hawiyes you are insulting now are the same one you were begging to be their second remember how you were convinced a Majeerteen will succeed saacid You are now confined in your little dessert slaamihi Majeerteen eeh odhan jiray xamar naga geyaa meel kale kuma dhali karno eh baad noqotay

I just have one question for you. Will you eat Hassan Shiekh's Shit for Recognition?

Lady nas would you bend over to have the Prime Minister position would you let your titiis be sucked for the prime minister come on be honest you want it real bad


By the way whats with this eating shit i have never heard this ,

PS lady Nas i am neither Habarjeclo or Habaryoonis the 2 fellas having a qabill battle were from those sub clans, and half of what they were saying in that topic was pure nonsense just a thought.

[original dervish]

The Dhulbahante were fighting for their lands and honour...the iidoor would never capture LA.

[Khalid Ali]

The Dhulbahante were fighting for their lands and honour...the iidoor would never capture LA.

LA was not captured in 1991 because Abdiqani made peace with the SNM in 1991 when colonel Libaahe and General Axmed mire were cleansing the Faqash remnants Sanaag and the northern sool. The SNM central committee agreed to stop the SNM commanders in sanaag and northern sool and not go further than than northern Sool. Eastern Sanaag was not spared The SNM pushed all the way to Xingalool and punished the wasakhgalis for their Faqash tendencies. But i am glad the SNM central committee didn't attack the central region of sool, Today we are united as people and brotherly forgiveness was needed and a smooth unity between the people of Somaliland was achieved because of the mature decision making of the SNM.